Ancient Indian Empires and Weapons

[nongaddarliberal]

No it is not. Steel gets hot in sun.

You wear cotton beneath the chainmail. And yes, discomfort is there, but you are at a major advantage when slashing attacks don't work on you. Only a thrust from a sword or spear can break through chainmail, and that too not that deeply. The central asian armies wore chainmail as standard even in the hot deserts of rajasthan with good results. What would you prefer, feeling hot, or to have a large gushing wound accross your chest?

During the crusades, the combination of chainmail and thick cotton gambisons beneath it made the christian knights almost impervious to horse archery, which allowed them to get close for lance attacks. This was in the hot deserts of palestine.

 

[Pandeyji]

You wear cotton beneath the chainmail. And yes, discomfort is there, but you are at a major advantage when slashing attacks don't work on you. Only a thrust from a sword or spear can break through chainmail, and that too not that deeply. The central asian armies wore chainmail as standard even in the hot deserts of rajasthan with good results. What would you prefer, feeling hot, or to have a large gushing wound accross your chest?

Or better wear cotton quilt armor. Same protection less trouble.

 

[nongaddarliberal]

Found this for ancient India : One small metal plate on the chest. No chain mail on the body.

This still looks like medieval India. Which year did they say this represents?

 

[Bleh]

This still looks like medieval India. Which year did they say this represents?

Ones to the sides are various Mughal armours. Left one is Char Aina armour with Khula khud helmet & no mail, right one is most likely the Rajput version of it.
The central one is the Rajput/Mughal Chilta Hazar Masha (Silk>chainmail>cottonpadding>leather held together by rivets), without the plates, thus wasn't likely used by nobility. Professional soldier maybe...

The one in the image below is probably Zirah Bagtar (early Mughals upto 17th century).

 

[nagara]

The architect of gods, Vishvakarma made the sun shine less so that his daughter could hug the Sun. The left over stardust was made into Sudarshana Chakra of Vishnu. The Chakra is described to have 10 million spikes in two rows moving in opposite directions to give it a serrated edge. Vishnu rides Garuda in Indonesia and chakra was used in Australia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrandyte,_Victoria
In Australian Aboriginal mythology, a Wurundjeri dreamtime story tells of a great eagle; "the all powerful, ever watchful creator of the world", named Bunjil, who "once gazed down upon his people from the star Altair and saw their wrong doing. Awaiting their return, with a mighty crash of thunder, he hurled down a star to destroy them". Where the star struck created a gorge in which much of the town today is located. Bunjil's people remembered the spot, and referred to it as Warrandyte, speculated to mean "that which is thrown"

Gold was first discovered in the town in 1851 and probably was seen as the star debris . Bunjil is planet Jupiter like Brihaspati and Altair is in Aquila "eagle" constellation like Garuda.
In Old Java language of Indonesia:
warrandyte
wara (Sanskrit) ``act or object of choosing'', most excellent among
dyuti ( Skt jyotis) heavenly bodies .
Warrandyte has the possessive wara-ne : " star of choice". It's believed that Bunjil had Hindu
military advisers , the Wirabraja of Java who served in the Mataram empire . Mataram was
founded by a descendant of a Hindu-Buddhist king of Majapahit 1293-1500.

 

[Shaitan]

Hero stone with archer with possible armour piece - 1000AD+ Deccan India

 

[Shaitan]

Thiruppudaimaruthur temple murals portray the retreat of Travancore army

'Tamirabarani battle' in 1532 C.E. (Common Era) between the King of Travancore, Bhoothala Veera Udaya Marthanda Varma and Emperor of Vijayanagara, Achyutadeva Raya.

https://www.deccanchronicle.com/lif...ngs-unravel-historic-tamirabarani-battle.html

Addition of fire arms.

 

[nagara]

This plonggi may be a form of parang /palang , Skt palayate pelayate in Australia.


Parampari was magically waving his spearthrower keeping Ngurunderi in one place. Ngurunderi got his plonggi club and threw it, hitting Parampari, who fell ...

A World that was: The Yaraldi of the Murray River and the Lakes, ...

https://books.google.com.au/books?id=gYhQnj6cWh8C&pg=PA225&lpg=PA225&dq=ngurunderi+plonggi&source=bl&ots=lN6nDZFoON&sig=oXG8djRhIUR0QSmYao-Jh76A0v4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiR78HrjrDfAhUUVH0KHS0kD3kQ6AEwCXoECAAQAQ#v=onepage&q=ngurunderi%20plonggi&f=false
Ronald Murray Berndt, ‎Ronald M. Berndt, ‎Catherine Helen Berndt - 1993 - ‎History


https://www.samuseum.sa.gov.au/gallery/ngurunderi/ng6htm.htm

Parang / palang sword of Malaysia- Philippines

 

[ezsasa]

Those interested in indian history follow twitter handle @trueindology. That guy breaks many wrong narratives, with proofs.

 

[nongaddarliberal]

Thiruppudaimaruthur temple murals portray the retreat of Travancore army

'Tamirabarani battle' in 1532 C.E. (Common Era) between the King of Travancore, Bhoothala Veera Udaya Marthanda Varma and Emperor of Vijayanagara, Achyutadeva Raya.

https://www.deccanchronicle.com/lif...ngs-unravel-historic-tamirabarani-battle.html

Addition of fire arms.

Wow. This is the first time I'm seeing muskets in one of our temple murals.

 

[indiatester]

Reading through Ramayana and Mahabharatha, I am encountering many weapons which don't really have description.
One I figured out was "Parigha"

Thats Sishupala holding a Parigha.

 

[Shaitan]

Medieval Hoysala Hero Stones

 

[Aaj ka hero]

Medieval Hoysala Hero Stones

shaitan sir big fan of yours,
good to see you back.

 

[rkhanna]

Reading through Ramayana and Mahabharatha, I am encountering many weapons which don't really have description.
One I figured out was "Parigha"

Thats Sishupala holding a Parigha.
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The Parigha is a blunt instrument like Club / Staff - usually studded with Iron.

It is can be found in the text of Dhanurveda (Book of warfare) which also has a list of 100+ weapons used in Antiquity.

 

[rkhanna]

interesting video - Timelapse of Empires through Subcontinental History - 29th Century BC to Present

Puts the "Mughals" ruled us in perspective

 

[Bleh]

interesting video - Timelapse of Empires through Subcontinental History - 29th Century BC to Present

Puts the "Mughals" ruled us in perspective

Some glaring faults, like complete absence of Sananka's Kingdom & full extent of Pal Empire, Karvela's Empire, Ahom Kingdom etc.
...And the post-Independence unification wars till '61 & loss of Akai Chin at '62.

Other than that, very through & well researched!
Good find... Every Indian should see this once, or we tend to forget what happens when we stuck together & when we didn't.

 

[The Ultranationalist]

This is a gem of a thread
..30 characters

Absolutely, one can prepare for the history art and culture papers of the civil services exam from it:biggrin2:

 

[Shaitan]

https://scfh.ru/en/papers/riders-lost-in-the-himalayas/

White Hun Armored Horse Riders - Invaded the Gupta Empire, repulsed to Kashmir - Converted to Hinduism, aggressor to Buddhism

Good read.

 

[Shaitan]

Pala Empire Era Soldier. Forward Curved Sword, Angle Shield.

Pala Empire Era Soldier. Broad Sword, Buckler Shield and Archer

Paharpur

 

[indiatester]

The Parigha is a blunt instrument like Club / Staff - usually studded with Iron.

It is can be found in the text of Dhanurveda (Book of warfare) which also has a list of 100+ weapons used in Antiquity.

One more thing I read in the puranas.
Apart from Shastra's and Astras, they also carried "Shakti's" that they used on opponents. One such description is found in Bana's fight with Aniruddha (Grandson of Krishna).
Bana uses a "Maha shakti" against Aniruddha who reflects it back to Bana. That goes through Bana's heart/chest and goes into the earth while Bana loses his consciousness.

No idea what these "shakti's" are that could be carried in their chariots and what each of those names meant. Hopefully I will lay my hands on a copy of Dhanurveda.