Ancient Indian Empires and Weapons

Discussion in 'Military History' started by bhramos, Dec 19, 2009.

  1. nongaddarliberal

    nongaddarliberal Senior Member Senior Member

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    You wear cotton beneath the chainmail. And yes, discomfort is there, but you are at a major advantage when slashing attacks don't work on you. Only a thrust from a sword or spear can break through chainmail, and that too not that deeply. The central asian armies wore chainmail as standard even in the hot deserts of rajasthan with good results. What would you prefer, feeling hot, or to have a large gushing wound accross your chest?

    During the crusades, the combination of chainmail and thick cotton gambisons beneath it made the christian knights almost impervious to horse archery, which allowed them to get close for lance attacks. This was in the hot deserts of palestine.
     
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  2. Pandeyji

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    Or better wear cotton quilt armor. Same protection less trouble.
     
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    nongaddarliberal Senior Member Senior Member

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    This still looks like medieval India. Which year did they say this represents?
     
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    Ones to the sides are various Mughal armours. Left one is Char Aina armour with Khula khud helmet & no mail, right one is most likely the Rajput version of it.
    The central one is the Rajput/Mughal Chilta Hazar Masha (Silk>chainmail>cottonpadding>leather held together by rivets), without the plates, thus wasn't likely used by nobility. Professional soldier maybe...

    The one in the image below is probably Zirah Bagtar (early Mughals upto 17th century).
     
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  5. nagara

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    The architect of gods, Vishvakarma made the sun shine less so that his daughter could hug the Sun. The left over stardust was made into Sudarshana Chakra of Vishnu. The Chakra is described to have 10 million spikes in two rows moving in opposite directions to give it a serrated edge. Vishnu rides Garuda in Indonesia and chakra was used in Australia.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrandyte,_Victoria
    In Australian Aboriginal mythology, a Wurundjeri dreamtime story tells of a great eagle; "the all powerful, ever watchful creator of the world", named Bunjil, who "once gazed down upon his people from the star Altair and saw their wrong doing. Awaiting their return, with a mighty crash of thunder, he hurled down a star to destroy them". Where the star struck created a gorge in which much of the town today is located. Bunjil's people remembered the spot, and referred to it as Warrandyte, speculated to mean "that which is thrown"

    Gold was first discovered in the town in 1851 and probably was seen as the star debris . Bunjil is planet Jupiter like Brihaspati and Altair is in Aquila "eagle" constellation like Garuda.
    In Old Java language of Indonesia:
    warrandyte
    wara (Sanskrit) ``act or object of choosing'', most excellent among

    dyuti ( Skt jyotis) heavenly bodies .
    Warrandyte has the possessive wara-ne : " star of choice". It's believed that Bunjil had Hindu
    military advisers , the Wirabraja of Java who served in the Mataram empire . Mataram was
    founded by a descendant of a Hindu-Buddhist king of Majapahit 1293-1500.

     
  6. Shaitan

    Shaitan Zandu balm all day Senior Member

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    Hero stone with archer with possible armour piece - 1000AD+ Deccan India
     
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  8. nagara

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    This plonggi may be a form of parang /palang , Skt palayate pelayate in Australia.


    Parampari was magically waving his spearthrower keeping Ngurunderi in one place. Ngurunderi got his plonggi club and threw it, hitting Parampari, who fell ...


    A World that was: The Yaraldi of the Murray River and the Lakes, ...

    https://books.google.com.au/books?id=gYhQnj6cWh8C&pg=PA225&lpg=PA225&dq=ngurunderi+plonggi&source=bl&ots=lN6nDZFoON&sig=oXG8djRhIUR0QSmYao-Jh76A0v4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiR78HrjrDfAhUUVH0KHS0kD3kQ6AEwCXoECAAQAQ#v=onepage&q=ngurunderi%20plonggi&f=false

    Ronald Murray Berndt, ‎Ronald M. Berndt, ‎Catherine Helen Berndt - 1993 - ‎History


    https://www.samuseum.sa.gov.au/gallery/ngurunderi/ng6htm.htm


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    Parang / palang sword of Malaysia- Philippines
     
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    Those interested in indian history follow twitter handle @trueindology. That guy breaks many wrong narratives, with proofs.
     
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    Wow. This is the first time I'm seeing muskets in one of our temple murals.
     
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    Reading through Ramayana and Mahabharatha, I am encountering many weapons which don't really have description.
    One I figured out was "Parigha"

    Thats Sishupala holding a Parigha.
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    Medieval Hoysala Hero Stones
     
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    shaitan sir big fan of yours,
    good to see you back.
     
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    The Parigha is a blunt instrument like Club / Staff - usually studded with Iron.

    It is can be found in the text of Dhanurveda (Book of warfare) which also has a list of 100+ weapons used in Antiquity.
     
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    interesting video - Timelapse of Empires through Subcontinental History - 29th Century BC to Present

    Puts the "Mughals" ruled us in perspective

     
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    Some glaring faults, like complete absence of Sananka's Kingdom & full extent of Pal Empire, Karvela's Empire, Ahom Kingdom etc.
    ...And the post-Independence unification wars till '61 & loss of Akai Chin at '62.

    Other than that, very through & well researched!
    Good find... Every Indian should see this once, or we tend to forget what happens when we stuck together & when we didn't.
     
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  17. The Ultranationalist

    The Ultranationalist Regular Member

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    Absolutely, one can prepare for the history art and culture papers of the civil services exam from it:biggrin2:
     
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    Pala Empire Era Soldier. Forward Curved Sword, Angle Shield.

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    Pala Empire Era Soldier. Broad Sword, Buckler Shield and Archer

    Paharpur
     
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    One more thing I read in the puranas.
    Apart from Shastra's and Astras, they also carried "Shakti's" that they used on opponents. One such description is found in Bana's fight with Aniruddha (Grandson of Krishna).
    Bana uses a "Maha shakti" against Aniruddha who reflects it back to Bana. That goes through Bana's heart/chest and goes into the earth while Bana loses his consciousness.

    No idea what these "shakti's" are that could be carried in their chariots and what each of those names meant. Hopefully I will lay my hands on a copy of Dhanurveda.
     
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