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Have the bhakths cheering for this anti privacy law
What the damn thing you do achieve by this "privacy"? Nobody is going spill your data around in public.
Only people who are carrying out any sort of illegal transactions or hate/separatist/communist pages or other illegal things should have a problem.
 

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I ain't a tech nerd. So here's a question: Suppose I surf using a VPN? Can the agencies still be able to snoop on me?
 

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https://www.opindia.com/2018/12/fac...-access-to-computers-says-bjp-wants-to-snoop/

Congress is lying about Home Ministry order on intercepting computer data allowing snooping on general public
The MHA order specifies which agencies can intercept communication under the IT Act

On December 20, government India issued a notification in the Gazette of India, which seems to give various investigating agencies sweeping powers to snoop on any computer device. The order issued by Ministry of Home Affairs authorises ten listed Security and Intelligence Agencies to intercept, monitor and decrypt any information generated, transmitted, received or stored in any computer resource under the Information Technology Act, 2000.


The order issued by MHA
Expectedly, this caused massive outrage on social media and even in the parliament. This was termed as a violation of the privacy of citizens by Modi government. Congress party alleged that police have been given sweeping power to tape any phone and intercept any computer communication. They said that India is being turned into a police state by this order.


If we look into the MHA order carefully, we can see that there is no basis to these allegations. The government has not issued any new order, rather they have reiterated an order which is already there in the law books. The order cites that is has been issued under sub-section (1) of section 69 of the Information Technology Act, 2000, and Information Technology (Procedure and Safeguards for Interception, Monitoring and Decryption of Information) Rules, 2009.

It is important to note that the Information Technology Act, 2000 was passed by the parliament without any discussion or opposition in the parliament. This is what section 69 of the said act says:


Section 69 of Information Technology Act, 2000
The sub-section 1 of section 69 makes it very clear that authorities will be allowed intercept any information transmitted through any computer device only in cases of threat to integrity and security of the country, a threat to law and order and incitement to any cognizable offence. This is not a general snooping on all citizens as Congress party and others are alleging.

Speaking in Rajya Sabha, finance minister Arun Jaitley also said that this power has been given only for specific cases as mentioned in the IT Act. It is important to note that the order clarifies powers to investigating agencies under the IT Act, it does not amend the Act. This means the provisions of section 69(1) of the Information Technology act will continue to prevail.

Now if we see the Information Technology Rules, 2009 issued by the then Congress government, which has also been cited in the MHA order, we can see that the current order is nothing new. The provision in the order already exists for last one decade. Section 4(1) of the Rules say:

(1) The competent authority may authorise any agency of the government for monitoring and collection of traffic data or information generated, transmitted, received or stored in any computer resource.

This is the same language used in the MHA order, the only difference is that instead of saying ‘authorise any agency’, it now specifies which agencies are authorised to use this power. The 10 agencies mentioned in the order are the usual agencies that carry out investigations in the country. Now the government has made the rule clearer by specifying which agencies can intercept computer-based communications on specific incidents of threats to national security and law and order.

Talking to media, law minister Ravi Shankar Prasad clarified that this order is fully constitutional, and said it does not allow snooping on the general public. He also said that under the provisions of IT act, necessary approvals will have to be obtained from Home Secretary before any interception is done. He also said that as ten agencies are mentioned in the order, other agencies are now not authorised to intercept computer-based communications unless they are authorised to do so on a case by case basis.
 

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Gentlemen,

Control your tendency of turning everything into a Congress vs BJP or left vs right wing mud slinging festival.
Off topic posts have been culled.

Regards,
Virendra
 

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I ain't a tech nerd. So here's a question: Suppose I surf using a VPN? Can the agencies still be able to snoop on me?
Very easily if you are of any value. VPN is just a tunnel created in a cloud for secure access. In our case we just mask our IP address and make it seem like IP address of some other ISP which are not restricted by the policy.
 

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Very easily if you are of any value. VPN is just a tunnel created in a cloud for secure access. In our case we just mask our IP address and make it seem like IP address of some other ISP which are not restricted by the policy.
Mac address will easily give away even if IP is hidden , though there are ways to subvert Mac address , not so easy though

I don't think there are many people who can script tools to do that , the ones available online are loaded with trojans etc.

Plus there is the digital fingerprint left as the data stream bounces of routers etc , so can be traced back though with lot of effort.
 
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Mac address will easily give away even if IP is hidden , though there are ways to subvert Mac address , not so easy though

I don't think there are many people who can script tools to do that , the ones available online are loaded with trojans
Yeah... last 8 digits are easy to manipulate. But with IPv6, things are going to be different and interesting.
 

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Mac address will easily give away even if IP is hidden , though there are ways to subvert Mac address , not so easy though

I don't think there are many people who can script tools to do that , the ones available online are loaded with trojans etc.

Plus there is the digital fingerprint left as the data stream bounces of routers etc , so can be traced back though with lot of effort.
There is something called TOR browser which will make it really hard to find you. But that will come with lot of restrictions in watching videos, speed of browsing etc. It is worth using TOR only when very sensitive things are to be done.
 

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There is something called TOR browser which will make it really hard to find you. But that will come with lot of restrictions in watching videos, speed of browsing etc. It is worth using TOR only when very sensitive things are to be done.
Who created TOR in the first place ?
CIA ? :biggrin2:

Now trust it as much as you want.

Smart people who seek to exploit the gullible use the same old technique of bad cop and good cop.

Problem is good cop = bad cop = same old players :biggrin2:

Not related but same technique used

Communists / church = bad cop / good cop

Islamists / church = bad cop / good cop
 
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easy way build ur on vpn tunnel ..buy a Russian vps ..install open vpn install open vpn in ur pc mobile or wht ever device u have tunnel through it.. but if gov wants to spy u , u can't stop them..
 

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easy way build ur on vpn tunnel ..buy a Russian vps ..install open vpn install open vpn in ur pc mobile or wht ever device u have tunnel through it.. but if gov wants to spy u , u can't stop them..
I have always believed and specially liked line

If gov wants to spy on u . it can wit or without technology .With technology t just get easier for gov
 

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