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Agni V Missile
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They keep crying every time old and harmless dalai lama meets anyone or goes anywhere.:biggrin2:
To think they won't cry over a missile....
Well this missile is clearly about deterrence against the Chinese. Such range doesn't serve any other purpose for India .
Of course here we discuss china we have only two adversaries into the whole wide world
If we won't talk about pak or china we might just close this space:biggrin2:
China has many adversaries including US Japan . So yes Chinese attention must be more divided it's only natural
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I think China dont have to worry about A5 test, infact accuracy of A5 is only going to limit the damage, if cause to Chinese. If you guys have been paying attention Agni 2 and onwards are for China. Agni 2 has range of 3500 kms, which means that we can target Chinese major cities with A2, A3 and onwards just increase our options. Why China is making so much noises now. Those who are in the same business are aware what A2 to A6 means for them.
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Not a single military installation no matter how good it be can survive a direct hit by a nuke.
High accuracy of A5 serves a definitive purpose. It sends a message to the decision makers (top leaders, bureaucrats and generals) of the enemy nations that they should not assume that they will remain safe inside those hardened bunkers dug hundreds of feet deep underground.
This fear factor reduces the likelihood of the top guys taking "tough decision" like ordering a nuclear strike against India. Politicians, unlike soldiers fear death.
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http://www.deccanchronicle.com/nati...-aside-chinese-reaction-to-agni-5-launch.html
IAF chief Arup Raha brushes aside Chinese reaction to Agni-5 launch
IAF chief Arup Raha brushes aside Chinese reaction to Agni-5 launch
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Agni Missile flight time - x minutes.
S500 systems - y months
Globaltimes weekly Rant on India - Priceless
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first phase of Agni 5 missiles had 48 missiles on wheel TEL and same numbers on Trains. These trains moves in night under heavy security. Plus some unspecified number of duel wheel and train special TEL. So 150 China specific missiles were ready some few years ago. This number does not include what would be under or over sea.
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Btw today i saw video of Agni train, so i requested that person to remove the video, which he posted by mistake (just by chance, he was not aware about it) he removed the same.
Glad to see our Agni train in action.
As responsible forum, we do advice others to do the same.
Glad to see our Agni train in action.
As responsible forum, we do advice others to do the same.
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Take a look at @sayareakd's Tweet:
Sayarekd, 48 Agni-V? Has production reached that level? Also how many Agni-1/-2/-3/-4? I mean is it feasible? Yes. But, I've been advised that only 15-20 Agni-2 are in service? Please advise with what you can. Appreciate any help.
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Look at BR page, i got info from their, then contacted that person and advice him to delete it. He did. You can read nice things they said to poster of video.Hum sab margaye kya
Show us the video or it didn't happen
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Rail Mobile Launcher for Agni ll
The successful launches of Agni ll from the static launcher have demonstrated the indigenous re-entry technology for IRBMS/ICBMS available in country. For deployment of this long-range missile system, need for mobility was felt. The task of converting the mastered technology into an operational weapon system has resulted in development of launching platform to carry the missile. Rail mobile launcher platform is a 27m long special purpose wagon on broad gauge. It houses tilt beam, transportation support, mating, integration and erection support. It is capable of performing all the operations required at launch sites. A payload integration device has been provided to facilitate payload changing from conventional to nuclear and vice versa. The technologies successfully demonstrated during the development of this launching platform are:
RML for Agni ll. Inside: Agni during launch
rail mobility for IRBM class of missile, 6' verticality accuracy in both the planes, jet deflector to divert hot gases away from launcher tried successfully for the first time in the country, dynamic behaviour of launching platform for hot launch of IRBM class of missile, stiffness-based design of tilt beam and launching mechanism to suit the permissible deflection, hot launch concept for IRBM, first-stage support arm assembly for 15 ton compressive load.
Salient Features
The successful launches of Agni ll from the static launcher have demonstrated the indigenous re-entry technology for IRBMS/ICBMS available in country. For deployment of this long-range missile system, need for mobility was felt. The task of converting the mastered technology into an operational weapon system has resulted in development of launching platform to carry the missile. Rail mobile launcher platform is a 27m long special purpose wagon on broad gauge. It houses tilt beam, transportation support, mating, integration and erection support. It is capable of performing all the operations required at launch sites. A payload integration device has been provided to facilitate payload changing from conventional to nuclear and vice versa. The technologies successfully demonstrated during the development of this launching platform are:
RML for Agni ll. Inside: Agni during launch
rail mobility for IRBM class of missile, 6' verticality accuracy in both the planes, jet deflector to divert hot gases away from launcher tried successfully for the first time in the country, dynamic behaviour of launching platform for hot launch of IRBM class of missile, stiffness-based design of tilt beam and launching mechanism to suit the permissible deflection, hot launch concept for IRBM, first-stage support arm assembly for 15 ton compressive load.
Salient Features
- The wagon/platform is levelled by five sets of hydraulic actuator/outrigger cylinders
- Tilting of missile is done in three stages by four hydraulic actuators
- Tilting is done through electronic controller remotely within accuracy of 90 + 6' verticality in either plane
- The mission-critical first-stage support arm assembly clears the path of missile within 200 ms
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India's Agni vs China's Dongfeng missile: Which is more powerful
Friday, August 11, 2017 By: One India Source Link: CLICK HERE
War is the worst possible outcome of a diplomatic fallout between two countries and any nation would like to avoid it all costs. It not only results in massive loss of lives but also drains a country economically, pushing its development back by decades.
When two nuclear powers with sufficiently developed ballistic missile programs lock horns over an issue that can potentially spiral-out into a military conflict, all diplomatic options must be explored to ensure that peace prevails.
India and China are involved in a standoff at Doklam, near Sikkim, for close to two-months now. Both sides, despite being engaged in talks at different levels, are also indulging in a fair bit of chest thumping which is not sending a good signal to the international community.
China's statement hinting that military action could be considered if India does not pull back its troops from Doklam has left many people wondering whether India and China will go to war. Well, it seems highly unlikely as both nations have matured leadership, but it wouldn't do any harm to try and understand India and China's ballistic missile capabilities.
Agni missiles: How far can they strike in Chinese territory?
Agni series has five missiles with varying strike capabilities and ranges. Agni 1 is a single stage solid fuel missile with a range of 1250 kms while Agni 2, an improvement of Agni 1, is a two-stage missile capable of striking targets 2000 kms away. Agni 2, if launched from a strategic location, can target western, central, and southern China.
Agni 4, however, can strike targets in nearly all of China, including Beijing, provided they are launched from the northeast. All the missiles in the Agni series are capable of carrying nuclear warheads.
On 19 April 2012, India made its entry into the Intercontinental ballistic Missile (ICBM) club after the successful test launch of its indigenous Agni V missile.
Time and again International defence experts, especially the Chinese, have claimed that India has been understating the range of its intercontinental ballistic missile Agni-5. India initially did not divulge the exact range that the missile can strike but later DRDO hinted that it has the capability to reach 5,000 kms.
Chinese experts say that the missile actually has the potential to reach targets 8,000 kilometres away and that the Indian government had deliberately downplayed the missile's capability in order to avoid causing concern to other countries.
If the 8000 kms theory is true then India can strike whole of China even if the missile is launched from Southern India. Agni-V also features Multiple independently targetable reentry vehicle (MIRVs) with each missile being capable of carrying 2-10 separate nuclear warheads. Each warhead can be assigned to a different target.
One of the main advantages of Agni missiles are that they all use solid fuel which greatly reduces their launch time. If the missile is fitted to a mobile launcher, it can be launched within minutes. Some of the Chinese missiles use liquid propellant, which take time to launch compared to solid fuelled missiles because of the time needed to fuel the missile.
China's Dongfeng: Lethal missiles that can reach even the United States:
Dongfeng is a family of missiles developed by China consists of short, medium, intermediate-range and intercontinental ballistic missiles. Development of Dongfeng missiles started in the 1950s with Soviet assistance after signing of Sino-Soviet Treaty of Friendship, Alliance and Mutual Assistance in 1950.
Dongfeng 1 and Dongfeng 2 were the first two developed in this missile family with ranges of 500 kms and 1,250 kms respectively. Both were in use in the 1960s but are not in operation anymore.
Dongfeng 3 or DF 3, considered to be a copy of soviet R-14 Chusovaya missile, had a range of 2,500 kms, but even this has been retired from the service and replaced by DF 21. Dongfeng 4 and 5 were also developed, while the former will be replaced by DF-31 and the latter has an improved version, DF-5A, that can carry nuclear warheads over 12,000 kms.
Several other missiles in the series also exist but is our concerns are DF-21, DF-26 and DF-31.
China has reportedly admitted that India's Agni-V is comparable to its DF-26 ICBM which is also nicknamed Guam Killer. The IRBM, with a reported range of 3,500 km, has the ability to reach a major US base in Guam in the western Pacific.
DF-26, a two-stage solid fuel rocket IRBM, measures 14 meters long with a diameter of 1.4 meters and a launch weight of 20 tonnes. It can carry a nuclear or conventional warhead that weighs 1,200-1,800 kilograms and has an estimated maximum range of more than 5,000 km.
Is India developing a 12,000 kms range missile - Surya?
Well, there is no confirmation from DRDO as of now but many are speculating that India is working on a long-range ICBM capable of striking targets 12,000 kms away. Some say that it is Agni-6 while others say it might be named Surya. It is likely to be a three-stage missile with first stage being borrowed from ISRO's PSLV. If this is true, then it is sure to send shivers down enemy's spine.
Conclusion:
So, Chinese missiles can reach whole of India and what goes against India is that it is not accurately known how many Agni 4 or Agni 5 are in service. We must understand that test firing a missile is totally different from it being ready for deployment.
One also has to bear in mind that before comparing missile development programs, we must consider where the starting line was. China's program began way back in 50s with Russian help while India's program is totally indigenous.
http://www.defencenews.in/article/I...ongfeng-missile-Which-is-more-powerful-283628
Friday, August 11, 2017 By: One India Source Link: CLICK HERE
War is the worst possible outcome of a diplomatic fallout between two countries and any nation would like to avoid it all costs. It not only results in massive loss of lives but also drains a country economically, pushing its development back by decades.
When two nuclear powers with sufficiently developed ballistic missile programs lock horns over an issue that can potentially spiral-out into a military conflict, all diplomatic options must be explored to ensure that peace prevails.
India and China are involved in a standoff at Doklam, near Sikkim, for close to two-months now. Both sides, despite being engaged in talks at different levels, are also indulging in a fair bit of chest thumping which is not sending a good signal to the international community.
China's statement hinting that military action could be considered if India does not pull back its troops from Doklam has left many people wondering whether India and China will go to war. Well, it seems highly unlikely as both nations have matured leadership, but it wouldn't do any harm to try and understand India and China's ballistic missile capabilities.
Agni missiles: How far can they strike in Chinese territory?
Agni series has five missiles with varying strike capabilities and ranges. Agni 1 is a single stage solid fuel missile with a range of 1250 kms while Agni 2, an improvement of Agni 1, is a two-stage missile capable of striking targets 2000 kms away. Agni 2, if launched from a strategic location, can target western, central, and southern China.
Agni 4, however, can strike targets in nearly all of China, including Beijing, provided they are launched from the northeast. All the missiles in the Agni series are capable of carrying nuclear warheads.
On 19 April 2012, India made its entry into the Intercontinental ballistic Missile (ICBM) club after the successful test launch of its indigenous Agni V missile.
Time and again International defence experts, especially the Chinese, have claimed that India has been understating the range of its intercontinental ballistic missile Agni-5. India initially did not divulge the exact range that the missile can strike but later DRDO hinted that it has the capability to reach 5,000 kms.
Chinese experts say that the missile actually has the potential to reach targets 8,000 kilometres away and that the Indian government had deliberately downplayed the missile's capability in order to avoid causing concern to other countries.
If the 8000 kms theory is true then India can strike whole of China even if the missile is launched from Southern India. Agni-V also features Multiple independently targetable reentry vehicle (MIRVs) with each missile being capable of carrying 2-10 separate nuclear warheads. Each warhead can be assigned to a different target.
One of the main advantages of Agni missiles are that they all use solid fuel which greatly reduces their launch time. If the missile is fitted to a mobile launcher, it can be launched within minutes. Some of the Chinese missiles use liquid propellant, which take time to launch compared to solid fuelled missiles because of the time needed to fuel the missile.
China's Dongfeng: Lethal missiles that can reach even the United States:
Dongfeng is a family of missiles developed by China consists of short, medium, intermediate-range and intercontinental ballistic missiles. Development of Dongfeng missiles started in the 1950s with Soviet assistance after signing of Sino-Soviet Treaty of Friendship, Alliance and Mutual Assistance in 1950.
Dongfeng 1 and Dongfeng 2 were the first two developed in this missile family with ranges of 500 kms and 1,250 kms respectively. Both were in use in the 1960s but are not in operation anymore.
Dongfeng 3 or DF 3, considered to be a copy of soviet R-14 Chusovaya missile, had a range of 2,500 kms, but even this has been retired from the service and replaced by DF 21. Dongfeng 4 and 5 were also developed, while the former will be replaced by DF-31 and the latter has an improved version, DF-5A, that can carry nuclear warheads over 12,000 kms.
Several other missiles in the series also exist but is our concerns are DF-21, DF-26 and DF-31.
China has reportedly admitted that India's Agni-V is comparable to its DF-26 ICBM which is also nicknamed Guam Killer. The IRBM, with a reported range of 3,500 km, has the ability to reach a major US base in Guam in the western Pacific.
DF-26, a two-stage solid fuel rocket IRBM, measures 14 meters long with a diameter of 1.4 meters and a launch weight of 20 tonnes. It can carry a nuclear or conventional warhead that weighs 1,200-1,800 kilograms and has an estimated maximum range of more than 5,000 km.
Is India developing a 12,000 kms range missile - Surya?
Well, there is no confirmation from DRDO as of now but many are speculating that India is working on a long-range ICBM capable of striking targets 12,000 kms away. Some say that it is Agni-6 while others say it might be named Surya. It is likely to be a three-stage missile with first stage being borrowed from ISRO's PSLV. If this is true, then it is sure to send shivers down enemy's spine.
Conclusion:
So, Chinese missiles can reach whole of India and what goes against India is that it is not accurately known how many Agni 4 or Agni 5 are in service. We must understand that test firing a missile is totally different from it being ready for deployment.
One also has to bear in mind that before comparing missile development programs, we must consider where the starting line was. China's program began way back in 50s with Russian help while India's program is totally indigenous.
http://www.defencenews.in/article/I...ongfeng-missile-Which-is-more-powerful-283628
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remember the Agni train i talk about, I modified above image to show, how it should look like when we are going to fire Agni from Agni train.
Its very difficult to identify and track these.
All must be aimed at China.............:biggrin2:
Its very difficult to identify and track these.
All must be aimed at China.............:biggrin2:
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One main point of difference between Indian and Chinese missile development programmes is the precedence of india's civilian space programme and its resultant benifits to its missile development while in the case of the latter it is the reverse. Though the Chinese has the advantage of its head start over India in missile development India is closing in the gap over the past few years. What India needs to do at present is speed up operationalisation of the agni v and slbm k4. These two will give India a true deterrent against China. Besides India should also develop agni vi which has mirv payload. SLBM version of agni v with MIRV should also be develop at quick time.
