hmmmm, it would take some time, but we do know that we share equal rights among all the people, regardless their religion/race/language/state etc. and we do have more opportunities for those who need it, like Dalit/Women etc....... having minority president/PMs/Generals/ chief justice/top diplomats etc is no secret, we even know their names....
A Dreamed India
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every person of the world has his own way of thinking and I favor Open Market Policy. on personal level, i strongly believe, if an Indian professional may secure bit better salary in Western nations/ US, on the basis of his foreign qualifications/ experience then that's fair. if western firms open campus selection in India and get the best people from here as they may offer better salary to these Indian professionals then thats what they may do. and if the Indian companies may offer them better salaries, then you have your fair stand itself :thumb:
similarly, foreign companies doing business here, making profits and sending back home, then Indian companies also have the same opportunity to do business in US/West and make profits from there. on personal level, i strongly favor open market world
Hindu-Americans Rank Top in Education, Income
Hindu-Americans have the highest socioeconomic levels among all religions in the United States, according to a new study by the Pew Research Center's Forum on Religion and Public Life.
Experts say U.S. immigration policy is the main reason Hindus do so well.
Both the 1965 Immigration Act and the more recent H1-B visa program set the table for Hindus to succeed. The former encouraged the immigration of professionals, particularly doctors and engineers, while the latter was designed to encourage the immigration of highly skilled "guest workers."
The number of H1-B visas issued to Indians grew steadily in the late 1990s and early 2000s and then spiked again in 2007. In 2011, according to the study, India accounted for more than half of all the H1-B visas granted.
"The education capital of this group is phenomenal," said Khyati Joshi, an associate professor at the Fairleigh Dickinson School of Education in Teaneck, New Jersey.
The Pew study, titled "Asian Americans: A Mosaic of Faiths," bears that out, and the numbers are staggering.
Eighty-five percent of Hindu-Americans are college graduates, and 57 percent have some postgraduate education, which is nearly five times the national average.
Education levels largely correlate to income, and there as well, Hindus rank at the top of the list.
According to the study, 48 percent of Hindu-American households have an income of $100,000 or more, and 70 percent make at least $75,000.
Another, secondary driver for the success of Hindus can be traced back to India's caste system, according to Prema Kurien, a professor of sociology and the director of the Asian/Asian American Studies Program at Syracuse University in New York.
"Hindu migrants to the U.S. are largely from upper caste backgrounds," she said. "Upper castes have had a long history of socioeconomic and educational advantage in India." :ranger:
According to Alan Cooperman, the associate director for research for the study, the success of Hindus stems from the type of person that chooses to leave India and who the U.S. admits. This, he said, is quite different from other immigrant groups, where there are often high numbers of refugees or undocumented immigrants.
"This is the first time anybody has had good data on [Hindus]," said Cooperman. "Hindus are a fascinating group."
Hindu-Americans Rank Top in Education, Income
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actually its two type of people in India, and as literacy rate of India is around 75%, overall this measurement put it low rank......
Youth literacy rate is expected to touch 90% by this year so we do know that AA's source of information would improve this 'overall' IQ of 1.3 billion Indians by at least 1 to 2 points every year.......
and thats also the reason why Indian Americans are on the highest side, similar to 350million Middle Class of India too, who are well qualified and having high professional jobs, businesses etc....
we have many different news in market to state the same news in a different way, i keep few in my store to post them on request. the similar news we have widely available about Indian Middle Class, if we do google... ....
it states news of 2007, while by 2010 they were well over $90,000+ average income group, i remember :thumb:
it has been a major issue of discussion about India, as half of the population just struggle to live somehow. i find this issue is mainly related to population control and reduce it to at least below 700 million, no more than twice to that of at the time of 1947 (341million population in 1947). here we welcome your contribution in the thread as below :thumb:
=> http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/economy-infrastructure/44002-consequences-high-population-9.html
we now have around 300million Middle Class, along with no less than 500million 'Under Class', whose kids are quite competent on the international exams like GRE, GMAT, one for medicines etc. few of the news about their dominating performance is as below. here we find US institutes having high scores due to international students, is it also related to "Malnourishment" :ranger:
Indian MBA students world's most academically distinguished
BANGALORE: It is students from IIM-Bangalore, not from Harvard or Stanford or even MIT, who excel at GMAT, the entrance test for the creme de la creme of B-schools across the world.
According to the QS Global 200 Business Schools report, Indian MBA candidates are the world's most academically distinguished, with students of the IIM-B, scoring the highest average of 780. IIM-B students are ahead of the leading US institution Stanford and INSEAD in Europe, the survey said.
While the average GMAT score of Stanford is 730, INSEAD lies at 704. Second to IIM-B students in GMAT score are their counterparts from IIM, Ahmedabad with 767.
The survey says, "IIM Ahmedabad is notable for the extraordinarily high average GMAT scores of its students, with its figure of 767 exceeded only by fellow Indian institution, IIM Bangalore (780). This places the two ahead of any North American or European school for the academic quality of their student intake. The fact that students enrolled at both schools have an average of just two years of professional experience underlines the tendency for academically gifted students to move quickly on to the MBA qualification at the outset of their careers, rather than using it to up-skill at mid career, as is more common in Europe and North America."
IIM-B also appears in the survey as one of the emerging global business schools across the world, overtaking Melbourne Business School.
"It is the testimony to high quality talent that our country has. It is no surprise that Indian students have outscored others from across the globe. What is needed now is the establishment of premier institutes like Harvard and Stanford in India as well, so that these young minds could express their intelligence in best possible manner. This is possible only when full autonomy is provided to the universities," said T V Mohandas Pai, chairman, Manipal Global Education Services.
"At the time of independence, our universities at Mumbai, Chennai, Calcutta, Mysore and Baroda were among the top 200 in the world. Today, they do not fare in any ranking at all. This is the result of bad government policy. Full autonomy, independent board of governors and focus on research are the factors crucial for a good university," said Pai.
The colleges were also judged on different subjects under their programme. In corporate social responsibility, IIM-B ranked 21 among the top 50 business colleges across the globe, whereas IIM-A grabbed 19th rank.
When it comes to emphasis on start-ups and small businesses to kick-start private sector growth ( entrepreneurship), IIM-B ranked 25 and IIM-A ranked 17. Under 'innovation', IIM-B was placed at 17th with a score of 90.6, whereas IIM-A ranked 13, with a score of 97.4 out of 100.
QS is an online and offline meeting place for aspiring managers, B-schools and businesses for career and educational -related decisions.
Many leaders in India
For the leadership development programme, four colleges from India feature among top 50 universities. They are: IIM-A, IIM-B, IIM-C and Indian School of Business (ISB).:tup:
Highlights of the survey
Schools ranked for employer reputation in 10 subject specializations. Harvard tops the table in three subjects, ahead of Stanford and MIT with two apiece. Wharton is number one for finance
Three Asian schools make the Elite global category: INSEAD Singapore, IIM-A and NUS Business School, National University of Singapore
No Elite Global schools in either Africa and Middle East, or Latin America
Indian MBA students world's most academically distinguished: Survey - The Times of India
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we have list of Minority PMs, Presidents, Generals, Chief Justice etc, India had in past. as per my own memory. what else we need in this regard to prove, "there is no law in India which makes difference among people based on religion/race/language etc, hence having 'Equal Rights' for all, a formally declared 'Non-Religious' country of world?"
1st; President: Fakhruddin Ali Ahmed (muslim), Giani Zail Singh (Sikh), Dr. A. P. J. Abdul Kalam (Muslim)
2nd; Prime Minister: Mr Manmohan Singh
3rd; Mr Bikram Singh (Sikh), Mr Joginder Jaswant Singh (sikh)
4th; Mr Altamas Kabir (muslim), Mr Aziz Mushabber Ahmadi (muslim)
and many other names, which are christians, parasi etc, and i don't remember.......
what else we need to prove, "only the most deserving people get high position in India, regardless their religious, language, state etc???"
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I am afraid what you have informed us about is hardly a proof that we get the most deserving people to high position.
Most of them are the products of political shenanigans and vote bank correctness that plagues this country.
thats true sir. for example of our current PM Mr M.Singh, he is PM because no law says that a minority can't be Prime Minister. but he never appeared in any general election in his life. even if he was 'chosen' from Congress on Rajya Sabha seat, its from North East, while was born in Punjab
even if he was behind Economic Reforms of India in 1991, growth rate of India was hardly around 5.4% for the next 10 years till 2002. much below 5.81% Average Growth rate of India since 1951, as below....
here, who was behind Economic Reforms of China in 80s??????? GDP per Capita on PPP of China was less than that of India till 1991, the year India had economic reforms. check it :ranger:
China GDP per capita PPP | Actual Value | Historical Data | Forecast ($1,100.66 at 1991)
India GDP per capita PPP | Actual Value | Historical Data | Forecast ($1216.63 at 1991)
this issue was once discussed as below
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It was Narashimha Rao who is the real architect of the Economic and Foreign Policy reforms.
Manmohan is merely overhyped to do down Narashimha Rao and the other technocrats who were involved in the whole scheme.
It is something like what the Congress has touted - that the Nehru Gandhi dynasty is the sole proprietors of the Indian Independence and its glorious present by dotting the national growth landscape with programmes, project, roads etc with the names of its dynastical stalwarts.
It is only when Modi championed Vallbhai Patel, a fellow Gujarati and the real man who has given today's India's 'physiognomy' construct, all hell broke loose, and the Congress 'suddenly' discovered their love and respect for a great and venerated 'Congressman'!
sir, Mr Singh can't be said to be either right or wrong on his economic policy, as guided by Mr Rao itself. as we have systems/ concerning departments etc to handle key issues. but as in the article by the former Finance Minister/ IAS officer Mr Y.Sinha itself, Mr M.Singh can hardly be said to be a diplomatic person. we have many talents in India, but only a 'popular' leader gets the highest position, and he is not
=> Why India needs an elected Prime Minister - Economic Times
for example, if Mr Mayawati gets the top post, she doesn't need to know either economics or strategic issues as we have different departments/systems for that. similarly we find Mr N.Kumar behind high growth rate of Bihar during last 10 years, then its again because of his willingness to do so, rest we have systems in Bihar to take the proper actions. and neither Mr R.Gandhi had also political/economical experience, a professional pilot only, except the facts that he got one of the highest number of seats in his first General Election. and thats only required, the popularity among the civilians. and Mr M.Singh is not one of them
8th; Zero Tolerance on Cross Border Infiltration
There can't be any proper Homeland security in a Dreamed India until you may successfully seal your border against cross border infiltration. you can't just imagine to have any type of security until you put a control over foreign interference, mainly over the cross border Infiltration, specially in the North East States from where many infiltrators move to rest of India too......
I have prepared few posts on this issue concerned with Bangladeshi infiltration as below, which may have a place here too
There can't be any proper Homeland security in a Dreamed India until you may successfully seal your border against cross border infiltration. you can't just imagine to have any type of security until you put a control over foreign interference, mainly over the cross border Infiltration, specially in the North East States from where many infiltrators move to rest of India too......
I have prepared few posts on this issue concerned with Bangladeshi infiltration as below, which may have a place here too
=> A Country is Responsible to Build Itself Only
we can only have better friendship/ trade relations with other nations, including our neighbors
few days before I discussed that its very simple to talk to the representatives of Pakistan/ Bangladesh, if you have fair intentions. India is responsible to build its own society, Chinese is for China and yes they have done the work to an extent, Brazilians are doing so too, and similarly Pakistan/ Bangladesh have to do little more to build their society. with respect to the level of population of Bangladesh, which is more than even the largest country of the world by area, Russia, no one would let them enter in their country straight away from the border, no one will offer them citizenship on arrival, and there is no need to invite destruction to this country only
we have seen may minorities sitting on the border of India-Pakistan, also running from Bangladesh due to local riots/ Sectarian Wars, as discussed in this thread too, but we can hardly make 100 times request to our neighbors to have more sympathy for their minorities, who are badly suffered from Sectarian Wars, but we mustn't let this problem come to India, definitely not :no:. we can only have good friendship/ trade with others, but we certainly can't interfere in other countries, nor they can do the same with India too......
and with that, as i have already stated in this thread too, we welcome all those countries who invite people from Bangladesh-Pakistan as India is already overly populated :thumb:
=> Our Freedom, The Independence We Got in 1947
and its all about our Freedom/ Independence we got in 1947, as discussed before. there was a time when we had "Super Human" as British, while now we have "Equal Rights" for all the people of India, with Equal Opportunities, regardless their religion/ race/ language/ state etc, along with providing more opportunities to the weak part of Indian Society like Dalits/ Female in different jobs/ exams, with scholarships for them only etc, and that's fair. we now pay tax to that Indian government which use the tax money to help the people based in India itself, develop infrastructure in India to improve life of the people based in India, while before that we were paying tax to those British to help them in their wars. Mr Gandhi struggled to have Industries in India, who may then provide jobs to Indians and hence pay taxes to Indian government for the purpose to use this tax revenue for the people based in India. and yes we have got that 'freedom', and trying to improve. and we now proud to say that we have made a place where the most deserving people get higher success, regardless in which family they took birth, (of any religion/ race/ language/state etc). and we hope India will become one of the best place to live by using their talent/ knowledge this way
but we find Pakistan/ Bangladesh still on the same colonized state, where all the people of all the community don't have equal rights/ equal opportunities, highly violent and very populated. but here again, we may hardly show our best wishes for them, but we certainly can't let India destroyed for any reason, whether secularism or anything else.... we may either request our neighbors to help their people who are running from there, or, we may hardly request US and Italy to invite them, but we certainly won't compromise with our 'freedom'/ 'independence'
Bandh disrupts normal life in Northeast
Sep 6, 2012
Normal life was today disrupted in Manipur, Mizoram, Nagaland and Arunachal Pradesh due to a 12-hour bandh called by the North East Students' Organisation to protest "harassment" of students from the region in other parts of the country and influx of illegal migrants.
Shops, markets, business establishments, government and private offices, banks and education institutions were mostly closed in the four states due to the bandh which began this morning, according to official reports.
A massive rally was organised in Guwahati in Assam where NESO chairman Samujjal Bhattacharjee said, "Former prime minister Rajiv Gandhi signed the Assam Accord in 1985, but Sonia Gandhi, the UPA chairperson, has failed to implement it and stop illegal migration.
"Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, who represents Assam in Parliament, has also failed in this context,"[/B] he alleged. :ranger:
He blamed Assam Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi for trivialising the issue and said that the recent exodus of students and professionals to the Northeast following the riots in lower Assam was the outcome of the government's apathy.
"This is not a Hindu-Muslim issue, but the problem is due to illegal migration from Bangladesh and our movement will continue till our demands and all illegal migrants, irrespective of religion who have come after 1971 leave," he said.
The Guwahati rally was attended by 26 student organisations.
The NESO demanded immediate detection and deportation of illegal Bangladeshis from the North East, updating of the National Register of Citizens and its completion before the next Lok Sabha polls, sealing of the India-Bangladesh border before the next Lok Sabha polls and no land settlements of migrants who arrived after 1971 in Kokrajhar, Chirang, Dhubri and Bongaigaon districts in Assam.
A report from Imphal said that transport services in Manipur and with neighbouring states were also cancelled with roads in the state capital deserted and people remaining indoors. Attendance in government and private offices was nil.
In Nagaland, all shops and business establishments in the capital town of Kohima and the commercial town of Dimapur remained closed while the bandh hit normal traffic on the roads.
Attendance was thin in government offices, banks and financial institutions across the state.
Schools and colleges remained closed as the state government declared a holiday.
In Arunachal Pradesh, the bandh was total in all the districts of the state.
In Mizoram, normal life was completely disrupted in the capital city of Aizawl with all government offices, banks, financial institutions, educational institutions and shops and business establishments closed.
Left Front ruled-Tripura was free from the shutdown with the NESO not having any organisation in the state.
Addressing the rally, Northeast MP Forum General Secretary Biren Baishya said that the issue of illegal migration from Bangladesh was raised several times in Parliament and would also be raised in future.
"We have been always telling the central government that this is not the problem of Assam or Northeast alone, but the entire country and we must save Assam today to save India tomorrow," he said.
He also said that it was the responsibility of the government to provide security to people of the Northeast living across the country.
NESO vice-chairman and Mizo Student leader S Khunte said that the Northeast was united on the issue of deportation of Bangladeshis.
"The problem faced recently by the Northeast people in mainland India was due to the government's failure to check migration and deport Bangladeshis from the country," he said.
Nagaland Students' Federation Advisor NSN Lotha said "there is no place for Bangladeshis in the Northeast and if the government fails to deport them, indigenous people have to step in and carry the movement forward as their identity is under threat."
The rally was also addressed by NESO leaders from Manipur, Meghalaya and Arunachal Pradesh and a protest march was taken out later.
Bandh disrupts normal life in Northeast - India - DNA
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Mr Singh has proved to be a moribund brainless and spineless wonder that has shamed his compatriots, who are known to be decisive, even if they are wrong in their approach.
He is an over touted economist ably assisted by another self acclaimed economist, Chandmbaram, who is a master in fudging figures and fudging balance sheets of the Nation!
If they were so good, we would not be in such a mess.
They had crowed that India is not affected by the global meltdown since India has good economic policies in place.
So, how come they are now claiming everything going wrong to the global situation?
sir, if we have a closed look on his history, then without appearing in any general election, he mainly earned high publicity through media for that Economic Reform which resulted in only 5.4% growth for the 10 years of Economic Reforms since 1991, while even a MBA degree is expired in every 10 years????? while overall growth rate of India is estimated at around 5.81% since 1951, first 8.0% growth occured in 2003-04 under non-congress government?
we have many talents in India, even Mr Y.Sinha is a retired IAS officer, much high rated official than a hardly economist like Mr M.Singh. and for the person like us, it matters more when an IAS officer open mouth as compare to those who can't open mouth until ordered from head of his party
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India Needs a 10 Years City Infrastructure Development Plan
first, there is a book knowledge that, "for every dollar invested, you get 66cents, 66% return through Direct and Indirect taxes." and this definition is mainly applicable if the investments are done on Infrastructure.
(for example, if you build a road of $5.0billion, then the employers paying taxes on their salaries, the companies supplying products/materials also paying taxes, and the sources of supplied materials also have to pay taxes on the products/material supplied. which all fall in Direct Taxes. and then we use our 'after tax' salaries/profits in market to purchase daily uses products, buy cars/home/products etc, which all again result in generating Indirect taxes as even the shops pay taxes, you buy daily usage products...... its all good if the money is kept within the country, specially while investment on Infrastructure.
this way, more and more you do investment in Infrastructure, better it is. and don't forget that China is still a developing country, they first have to have high investment in electricity, roads, bridges, metro trains etc, which all means for basics of life in a developed country :thumb:
and as India type developing country will grow by at least 6%+ by the next 30years+, we expect it to have higher expanses on Infra projects. even if it reach Public Debt at 120%+ to GDP by 2020, for example, and it borrows $2.0trillion extra by 2020 this way, along with the existing $1.0trillion plan for the next 5 years, its still very good considering its effects on accelerating growth due to high investments and the positive effects of well developed infrastructure on growth from 2020+, hence reducing debt level since then onward :thumb:
I would advise a 10 Years City Infra Development Plan, along with the existing 5 years plan which mainly covers investment in power projects/ regional developments like roads, ports etc. and this 10 years plan would mean to develop infrastructure in the cities, in terms of metro trains, bridges, expressways, parks etc. and it would have at least double expenditure to that of 5 years plan. for example, say $3.0trillion infra development in 20 major cities by 2025
(and considering 7%+ growth due to higher investments in Infra Projects, along with 7% inflation too, we find Nominal GDP of India reaching at least $6.0trillion+ by 2025 itself.....)
with that, i strongly favor SEZ development to be categorized as Infrastructure Projects, giving more strength to the SEZ developers in acquiring lands by paying 5-6 times to the land prices too, if required. similar to how roads were laid down in 50s and 60s by forceful way to acquiring lands, with paying higher price to the farmers that time too, true
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Consequences of High Population
there can't be another example of Income Inequality, like of India....... along with the poverty rate as above, first we have number of Billionaire where there is none from Pakistan or Bangladesh.
=> Welcome to Forbes Billionaire List
then Per Capita Income as whole as below too: :ranger:
=> and as this issue is directly related to population control, i thnk the post as below may also have a place here :thumb:
=> http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...-consequences-high-population.html#post615405
Consequences of High Population
List of countries by percentage of population living in poverty
Map of world poverty by country, showing percentage of population living on less than $2 per day. Based on the 2009 UN Human Development Report.
List of countries by percentage of population living in poverty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
there can't be another example of Income Inequality, like of India....... along with the poverty rate as above, first we have number of Billionaire where there is none from Pakistan or Bangladesh.
=> Welcome to Forbes Billionaire List
then Per Capita Income as whole as below too: :ranger:
=> and as this issue is directly related to population control, i thnk the post as below may also have a place here :thumb:
Few Key Points I always mention on this Topic as below:
these are my own ideas so it does require criticism by other members to make the topic interesting :thumb:
1st; if the poor of India ask the Western nations to share the burden of subsidies then they will simply kick these shiits of India, isn't it? and if its only Indian Middle Class who is generating money and running government and also paying heavy price for the welfare/subsidies for poor, then they do have a right to ask the Indian Government, "to what extent they will have to bear this burden of tax just to feed poor, and whether they will remain capable enough in future also to bear this burden on long run if the government doesn't control the population?????????"
like the news as below, around 50% indian population is based in agriculture only, around 600mil, while even 200mil population may produce the same agriculture output? and the same in cities of India, around 50% people just try to earn a decent salary which they can't, simply because too many mouths and limited resources. and Indian Middle Class is just paying high price to feed these around 600mil excess population, but still there is no effort to have a control on this growing population???????
2nd; here for example of Pakistan and Bangladesh, right now overly populated Pakistan is full of target killings, simply because too many mouth and no resources to feed them. its also similar to 'genocide' itself????????? and Bangladeshis just want to run from Bangladesh, mainly to India. its the worse to see people dying without dignity than controlling population by force
3rd; many economists of India advocate "food security"/ "free medicines"/ "right to get a job" etc in India which is not possible until the Indian government may control its population. they simply can't feed 1.2bil population from the limited natural resources they have . USA is 3 times bigger in area than India but population of India is 4 times to USA? and on the top of that, Indian government wants to give welfare/ heavy subsidies to its people? if India face a sudden fall like ASEAN in late 90s and South America like in 80s, all these they will have to withdraw after that so better they keep habit to live in less and get rid off the unnecessary subsidies/welfares . for example, we always find Pakistan increasing petrol and diesel prices as per market prices as they can't afford to give subsidies while the people of Pakistan are poorer than India, but Indian government always hesitate to do so? but the day India will reach level of Pakistan, just one good economic fall is required, and India will learn all by themselves.
4th; here we have report from world bank that around 60% people of India are living with income less than $2.0 per day, as below
here, how is it wise to have high population if you can't give them good life? how is it advisable to have more population this way???
=> Poverty headcount ratio at $2 a day (PPP) (% of population) | Data | Table
5th; Population of India was hardly around 341 million at the time of freedom, in 1947, and we can't have more than 700 million people, and we need a national consensus on it.
and as Overpopulation of India is directly related to consumption of natural resources of the world, high pollution and hence Climate Change due to high consumption of energy. reduced water level has also been caused in India due to the same high population and hence high demand reasons, hence India is directly answerable to the rest of the world about the measures it is adopting to reduce its population to 700 million, say by 2050
we can't let India become one of the reason for the destruction of this world, as the Earth belongs to every person of the world, regardless any nationality
6th; here, first there is no control on the population, as much as India can have, and on the top of that, they want to feed them for nothing too
=> At Rs 1,25,000 cr, Food Security Bill largest in world: Implementation a challenge, says Morgan Stanley - Economic Times
=> http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...-consequences-high-population.html#post615405
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9th; Fulfill Mahatma Gandhi's Dream of "Made in India"
today i thought when we want to dream for a successful India, it must come with fulfilling dreams of Mr MK Gandhi, who fought for "Made in India" products for his whole life. there can't be any other way to imagine a Dreamed India, which would fulfill dreams of her Father of Nation
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its all about having home industries, to provide employment to the people of India, and to generate taxes for the Indian government for the good of the civilians based in India itself, not for the war purposes of British during WW1 and WW2.......
in short, Mr Gandhi wanted India to have industries on its own, and develop technologies by own, provide employment and generate taxes, and hence, "He advocated renewal of native Indian industries."
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look, FDI in 'manufacturing' is what we always look for, as its bring many technologies from the foreign companies, who then employ the home professionals/ provide them training etc, so it finally help other home Industries too. as these professionals then switch to other companies with wealth of experience too.... (i was one of the biggest supporter of FDI in manufacturing, no matter what India has to commit for it......)
FDI in non-service and non-agriculture sector is always good, as it all about inviting technologies to Industrial sector this way and generate a competitive environment in India this way :cheers:
(but I won't like FDI in Service Sector as its share in economy is close to 55%, and you just get no technologies by inviting multi brands in service. as we do know have many professionals coming from overseas, having qualifications in Supply Chain etc with experience from there too..... its no rocket technology that you need FDI in retails to 'hand over' your business to foreigners.)
from here, we have only one conflict, i favour the Indian industries to outperform the foreign ones, like how TATA bought luxury Jaguar, which was on death bed in UK by 2008, and then TATA turned it into a profitable company since 2009. while you favour the same by foreign investments in non-service/ non-agriculture industries, as these companies do employ the home workers and pay taxes on their income too, its also true.......
i think we both would reach a 50-50 agreement here. have FDI in Industrial sector (non-service and non-agriculture) and also keep helping our home industries to outperform them also.
I would like to see the news like as below quite often :thumb:
9th; Fulfill Mahatma Gandhi's Dream of "Made in India"
today i thought when we want to dream for a successful India, it must come with fulfilling dreams of Mr MK Gandhi, who fought for "Made in India" products for his whole life. there can't be any other way to imagine a Dreamed India, which would fulfill dreams of her Father of Nation
Influenced by the Bhagvad Gita and Hindu beliefs, the Jain religion and the Christian teachings of Leo Tolstoy, Gandhi moved on the path of Satya and Ahimsa. 'Satya' meaning 'truth' and 'ahimsa' meaning 'non-violence' were the two weapons that Gandhi used to fight the enemy.
Gandhi inspired people to boycott British goods and refuse earthy possessions. This movement was known as Swaraj and was economically significant because Indian home industries were virtually destructed by British industrialists. He advocated renewal of native Indian industries and began to use a spinning wheel as a token of return to simple village life. Thereafter, he constantly began promoting satyagraha, non-violence, non-cooperation and swaraj to achieve independence. Finally, in August 1947, the British were forced to leave India.
https://www.smartindia.net.in/ask_a_teacher/question/7820/#.UvjpgmKSyi4
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Mr Gandhi was in favor of having home industries, and hence you need to modernize it, obviously, as he demanded that. but until you don't have your own industries, it was good to have charkha in the villages that time, as this is what he could do as a Professional Lawyer? :meeting:
its all about having home industries, to provide employment to the people of India, and to generate taxes for the Indian government for the good of the civilians based in India itself, not for the war purposes of British during WW1 and WW2.......
in short, Mr Gandhi wanted India to have industries on its own, and develop technologies by own, provide employment and generate taxes, and hence, "He advocated renewal of native Indian industries."
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look, FDI in 'manufacturing' is what we always look for, as its bring many technologies from the foreign companies, who then employ the home professionals/ provide them training etc, so it finally help other home Industries too. as these professionals then switch to other companies with wealth of experience too.... (i was one of the biggest supporter of FDI in manufacturing, no matter what India has to commit for it......)
FDI in non-service and non-agriculture sector is always good, as it all about inviting technologies to Industrial sector this way and generate a competitive environment in India this way :cheers:
(but I won't like FDI in Service Sector as its share in economy is close to 55%, and you just get no technologies by inviting multi brands in service. as we do know have many professionals coming from overseas, having qualifications in Supply Chain etc with experience from there too..... its no rocket technology that you need FDI in retails to 'hand over' your business to foreigners.)
from here, we have only one conflict, i favour the Indian industries to outperform the foreign ones, like how TATA bought luxury Jaguar, which was on death bed in UK by 2008, and then TATA turned it into a profitable company since 2009. while you favour the same by foreign investments in non-service/ non-agriculture industries, as these companies do employ the home workers and pay taxes on their income too, its also true.......
i think we both would reach a 50-50 agreement here. have FDI in Industrial sector (non-service and non-agriculture) and also keep helping our home industries to outperform them also.
I would like to see the news like as below quite often :thumb:
=> Tata hands Jaguar £5bn to match German rivals - FT.comLuxury carmaker does profit U-turn
The Range Rover Evoque is the latest in the luxury brand's line-up, and goes on sale in Australia later this year.
In one of the greatest industrial turnarounds in British corporate history, Jaguar Land Rover, the luxury carmaker so troubled during the depths of the recession that there were fears it could go bankrupt, has reported a profit of more than £1 billion ($1.54bn).
Tata, the Indian parent of the British manufacturer, reported that JLR made a profit after tax of £1.043 billion ($1.6 billion) in the financial year to March 31, compared to £32 million ($49.3 million) the previous year.
The rebirth of the carmaker comes courtesy of the strong overseas demand for Jaguars, Range Rovers and Land Rovers which has made the company one of the UK's most important exporters.
Last year, more than 77 percent of JLR's output of about 240,000 cars were bound for shipment, with China for instance now making up a fast-expanding 10 per cent of its market.
JLR is also Britain's single largest automotive employer, with nearly 20,000 staff.
Carl-Peter Forster, chief executive of Tata Motors, the Indian company which bought JLR from Ford for €2.3 billion ($3 billion), said, "Jaguar Land Rover is now a strong, profitable and innovative competitor in the premium car industry and will deliver even more attractive models and technologies to customers worldwide."
The new baby Range Rover, the Evoque, is being launched in the US this northern summer and the company has also committed to the construction of a limited edition hybrid electric-powered supercar, the Jaguar C-X75.
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Estimated number of Middle and 'Lower' Middle Class
(for china, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh)
Per Capita Income of the people above $2.0 per day income in these four countries
here, if we consider people below this level having $1.5 per day average income as whole, hence around $500 a year this way, around, then we have an 'estimate only' calculation as below :thumb:
Pakistan: 60/40 = 1.5 * (3100-500) = 3900 + 3100 = $7,000 (40% of 170million = 68million around)
Bangladesh: 76.5/23.5 = 3.255 * (2000-500) + 2000 = $6,882 (23% of 160million = 40million)
India: 69/31 * (3800-500) + 3800 = $11,145 (31% of 1.3 billion = 400million)
China: 30/70 * (9,100 - 500) + 9100 = $12,785 (70% of 1.4 billion = 1.0 billion)
but in the above calculation we may clearly see that per capita income of people above $2 per day income of India and China is almost twice to that of Pakistan and Bangladesh. hence we would say that 80% of this category of Pakistan and Bangladesh would be among the Lower Middle Class, while there might be 50% of India and China would fall among the Lower Middle Class, rest are Middle Class, an estimate only :thumb
.hence this above calculation says India is a country of 200million Middle Class and 200million Lower Middle Class. rest of 900million are poor by the criterion of UN. while only 400million fall among the poor as per the measurement of Indian government, which still consider $1.25 per day to categorize poor :ranger:
and yes, it put around 500million people of China among the Middle Class category, around (20% of 68million =) 14million of Pakistan and around (20% of 40million =) 8.0million of Bangladesh among the Middle Class of this standard.) :thumb:
=> and yes this estimate would get the higher size for developing countries while considering the method which was in application till 2007, which used to consider GDP on PPP of India type developing countries at least 50% higher, considering 'estimated' undocumented part of GDP too. the method which was considered by the World Bank and IMF both till 2007. as below :ranger:
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Further to the above post, India, along with China/Pakistan/BD too, still consider its poverty line at $1.25 per day, which puts them as below :ranger:
and if we consider the old method to measure GDP on PPP, which was in application till 2007 by both World Bank and IMF, along with considering its 'uniform' effects on all the classes of India, then we may say that $1.25 per day income actually means as = $1.25 * 5.16/3.19 = $2.02 per day :thumb:
this does mean that $1.25 per day income for India actually means for $2.02 per day, considering the 'estimated' undocumented part of GDP on PPP, the method which was in application till 2007. and this also means that there would be around 26% of 1.3 billion = 338million people only below Standard Poverty Line of $2.0, as described by "UN Human Development" too in this reference
(Indian estimate for 2013 is around 26% people below poverty line only, below $1.25 per day income.)
=> Indian "Under Class"
hence, further to the last post#39, where we find 200million Middle Class and 200million Lower Middle Class of India, this calculation tells us about "Under Class" of India, in number around 900million - 338million = 562million (who aren't said to be poor.) along with 338million poor by the standard of $2.02 per day income, considering the method of measuring GDP on PPP till 2007 :thumb:
Further to the above post, India, along with China/Pakistan/BD too, still consider its poverty line at $1.25 per day, which puts them as below :ranger:
and if we consider the old method to measure GDP on PPP, which was in application till 2007 by both World Bank and IMF, along with considering its 'uniform' effects on all the classes of India, then we may say that $1.25 per day income actually means as = $1.25 * 5.16/3.19 = $2.02 per day :thumb:
this does mean that $1.25 per day income for India actually means for $2.02 per day, considering the 'estimated' undocumented part of GDP on PPP, the method which was in application till 2007. and this also means that there would be around 26% of 1.3 billion = 338million people only below Standard Poverty Line of $2.0, as described by "UN Human Development" too in this reference
(Indian estimate for 2013 is around 26% people below poverty line only, below $1.25 per day income.)
=> Indian "Under Class"
hence, further to the last post#39, where we find 200million Middle Class and 200million Lower Middle Class of India, this calculation tells us about "Under Class" of India, in number around 900million - 338million = 562million (who aren't said to be poor.) along with 338million poor by the standard of $2.02 per day income, considering the method of measuring GDP on PPP till 2007 :thumb:
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