68 year old Tibetan senior beaten up for "independence" protest

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who gives u the credit to judge what source is "pro-totalitarian" or "false"? :toilet:

I shall be ashamed?? ah ha don't make me vomit! It's u who shall be ashamed by trying to discredit the source while having nothing to refute.

Feel free to suspect I support the govmt or whatever I owe u nothing and am free to choose my stance. Does it make u any more credible if u 're pro McCain or anti Oh Bama?

Stop sprouting bullshit! :ban:
You were caught spreading bullshit, I think, of a very intense quality. :dude:
 

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What makes your conspiracy theory more trust worthy than his "conspiracy"?

So u're pro Lama's medieval theocracy?
Your source claims that George Bush destroyed the World Trade Center in 2001.

Your source also claims that Dalai Lama tortures Tibetans.

You do see your problem, don't you?
 

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Your source claims that George Bush destroyed the World Trade Center in 2001.

Your source also claims that Dalai Lama tortures Tibetans.

You do see your problem, don't you?
I remind u that Lehman is the owner of the website but he is not the author of every piece.

So I paste another part of the article by Long Xinming (BC) at readers' discretion -

Neither China nor Tibet even Remotely Resemble the Rubbish Published in the Western Press

The world should understand that China has never had imperial tendencies in the sense of wanting to conquer or occupy other neighboring lands. Tibet, Taiwan and Hong Kong have always been an integral part of China, and it is only those that China wants to keep.

The Western press talks about repression in Tibet, but there is nothing of that. In fact, Tibet, with the Dalai Lama at its head, at times bordered on being brutally repressive, regularly resorting to torture to keep its citizens in line if religion didn't do the job.

I have travelled to Tibet and have quite a few friends who have also been there, and by all accounts things are happy enough and progressing. It seems to be only the outside world that makes this an issue.

If you are one of those "Free Tibet" people, it's high time someone told you that your ignorance and simple-mindedness are not virtues. You project some mythical dream onto the people about some imaginary "authentic Tibetan way of life", but you don't care at all about the real Tibetans. Perhaps you want a fantasy fulfilled to satisfy your own empty life. It would be better for everyone if you do that somewhere else, and stop sticking your nose into things you don't understand and that are none of your business.

And if uninformed Americans want to 'save' somebody, they should perhaps focus on saving Hawaii. Tibet's history is cloudy, but that of Hawaii is crystal-clear. The US invaded Hawaill with gunships and forced the abdication of the Queen, just to give Bob Dole's relatives control of the plantations. The country was literally hijacked by a US civilian with the help of the US military. Anyone who wants some quick hard facts need only do a search for Bill Clinton's apology to the Kingdom of Hawaii – which was unanimously passed by both Houses of the US government.
u can feel free to comment but stop playing smart to distract readers from the content by discrediting the source!
 

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China never had imperialist ideas?

That is real rich!

I have posted many a time the animated image how China continuously exhibited imperialist goals!
 
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I remind u that Lehman is the owner of the website but he is not the author of every piece.

So I paste another part of the article by Long Xinming (BC) at readers' discretion -



u can feel free to comment but stop playing smart to distract readers from the content by discrediting the source!
I am not Richard Gere :)

What Long Xinming wrote in his "Brief Commentary" seems to me very much like what the National Socialists like Goebbels were writing about the Jews, or The Protocols of Zion.

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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What Long Xinming wrote in his "Brief Commentary" seems to me very much like what the National Socialists like Goebbels were writing about the Jews, or The Protocols of Zion.
I would say it is a comic article feeding on false premises, and concocted too!
 
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I am not Richard Gere :)

What Long Xinming wrote in his "Brief Commentary" seems to me very much like what the National Socialists like Goebbels were writing about the Jews, or The Protocols of Zion.

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Again feel free to formulate your own opinion about Tibet. What's important is let readers make their own decision with access to varied info.

I have no idea abt Zion or Protocol. One thing I'm pretty sure is it was Jew who sold Jesus out. And Jews deprived Palestinians of their lands and built their state on occupied lands (is this also Goebbels propaganda?). Of course like yours mine is way off topic.



Another part of the arcticle A Brief Commentary on Tibet | nsnbc international

Here are some points which anyone passing judgment on recent events in Tibet should bear in mind:

1. Tibet, an independent country until 1950, was not suddenly occupied by China. The history of its relations with China is long and complex, with China often acting as a protective overlord – the anti-Communist Kuomintang also insisted on Chinese sovereignty over Tibet.

(The term "Dalai Lama" bears witness to this interaction: it combines the Mongolian dalai – ocean – and the Tibetan bla-ma.)

2. Before 1950 Tibet was no Shangri-la, but a country of harsh feudalism, poverty (life expectancy was barely 30), corruption and civil wars (the last, between two monastic factions, was in 1948 when the Red Army was already knocking at the door).

Fearing social unrest and disintegration, the ruling elite prohibited any development of industry, so all metal had to be imported from India.

This did not prevent the elite from sending their children to British schools in India and transferring financial assets to British banks there.

3. The Cultural Revolution which ravaged the Tibetan monasteries in the 1960s was not imported by the Chinese. Fewer than a hundred of the Red Guards came to Tibet with the revolution, and the young mobs burning the monasteries were almost exclusively Tibetan.

4. Since the early 1950s there has been systematic and substantial CIA involvement in stirring up anti-Chinese troubles in Tibet, so Chinese fears of external attempts to destabilise Tibet are not irrational.

5. As television images show, what is going on now in Tibetan regions is no longer a peaceful "spiritual" protest of monks as in Burma over the last year, but gangs burning and killing ordinary Chinese immigrants and their stores. We should measure the Tibetan protests by the same standards as we measure other violent protests: if Tibetans can attack Chinese immigrants, why can't the Palestinians do the same to the Israeli settlers on the West Bank?

6. The Chinese invested heavily in Tibetan economic development, as well as infrastructure, education and health services. Despite undeniable oppression, the average Tibetan has never enjoyed such a standard of living as today. Poverty is now worse in China's own undeveloped Western rural provinces than in Tibet.
 

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That's a pretty iffy strawman you're constructing there.
The strawman is the Dalai Lama. Even the White House put him out with the trash.

 

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Militants target CRPF camp in Shopian, 4 killed

Four persons, including two civilians, were killed when militants attacked a Central Reserve Police Force camp in Shopian district of Jammu and Kashmir today.....

Two suspected militants and as many civilians were killed in the incident, IGP Kashmir A G Mir said.

He said the identity of the suspected militants is being ascertained. Some weapons have been recovered from the scene.....

Protests erupted in Shopian town and adjoining areas soon after the incident as the residents questioned the version of the security forces.

Militants target CRPF camp in Shopian, 4 killed - Rediff.com India News



Militants target CRPF camp in Shopian, 4 killed - Rediff.com India News
This is a brilliant evidence!
I just don't see how these 2 case are related? Because there are terrorisem attack in Kashmire, so it is ok for INDIAN security force to kill any unarmed protester?
 

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This is a brilliant evidence!
I just don't see how these 2 case are related? Because there are terrorisem attack in Kashmire, so it is ok for INDIAN security force to kill any unarmed protester?
Evidence?

when have the Chinese bothered about evidence?

They only go by what their CCP and Govt says and that is all the evidence they go by.

If you don't see the relationship of the events, then you are are not seeing well. Open up your eye and see, as the Beatles sang.

Unarmed?

You were there alongside these chaps?

Or are you in a daze still savouring the euphoria of the days of the Opium War?
 

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