30 something big planes on XAC factory, including KJ600!

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  1. rockdog

    rockdog Regular Member

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    Image at 2018.08

    https://m.weibo.cn/5596911390/4277439276349002

    The AVIC Group, XAC factory is on mass production of "big planes":
    The are 10 Y-20 transporter,
    11 H-6K cruiser missile bomber,
    8 Y-7/Y-8 multiple

    But more importantly, on the upper right corner among the cluster of Y-7s is a seemingly smaller twin engine plane with a radome. This could be the carrier AWACS KJ-600 which is based on the Y-7 ...
     
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  3. shiphone

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    the so called KJ-600 is just the 'old' Tech demonstration plane - JZY-01 ...which is based on Y-7

    but KJ-600 is a new designed platform



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    All of them knocked off versions of russian aircraft. chinese copycats dont have brains to come up with something of their own. It seems to me there is a reason why chinese gooks look like carbon copies of each other.
     
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    Discussions on internet said 10 Y-20 counted. Since no clue about the overlapping (time and angel) between those 2 photos, it's truly hard for me to tell the exact number. Any idea?

    And, any further suggestion how this tell us about its (Y-20) production rate?
     
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    Looks like a propoganda to me .These models might be mock planes.Chinese are very good in propoganda.
     
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    as I know, those two are Satellite Images on 12th Jun(2nd image) and 11th Aug(1st image). these are charged images on commecial Sat Image website... and the latest FREE GE image is on 29th Apr...

    there are at least 9 Y-20A in the image on the 11th Aug, and there are some more on the other end of the runway(test fly parking area )...these are simple facts we can see, But I have no idea about the production rate. in early of this year, the news reported some componets for 30 Y20s had been produced so far.

    as we know , the Y-20A is manufactured on an "aircraft assembly fluctuating production line" which is an advanced production method nowadays. and there was a documentary about Y-20 weeks ago, we can see this assembly line in some episodes. this documentary is also available on the CNTV's Youtube channel.

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  8. rockdog

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    The forum here is for two nations' people understand each other, not basing again and again.

    This image is from a Chinese news portal, after Modi announced will send astronaut to space at 2020, are you happy with it?

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    Only thing wrong with the pic is that the people are from pakistan.
    http://investvine.com/indonesia-pakistan-ink-trade-agreement/packed-train-pakistan/
    Otherwise it is fine, Chinese having negative opinion on every other country is a cultural thing. i can understand, it is not their fault.
     
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    It's funny to troll india they are using pakistani pics, and photoshopped an Indian flag. It's strange coming from Chinese people who faced the same difficulties as India from western press but use the same tactics in trying to mock us. I guess the new money has gotten into their heads too much.

    But it's funny to bash India they had to make paki a balli ka bakra:biggrin2:
     
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    That's the point! I also think it's quite childish and wrong, let's just focus on the military things not racist attack like Mr Ultranationalist ...
     
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    ezsasa Senior Member Veteran Member Senior Member

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    It’s not about the money, not much difference between Indian middle class and Chinese middle class economically.

    There is a general cultural insensitivity regarding other nationalities observed among Chinese mainlanders, which is not that prevalent in rest of the world. That’s how they are, who are we comment on those aspects.

    I am sure we ourselves have some cultural traits others won’t find amusing, but the difference is that being an open society we allow every tom dick and harry to comment on us and Chinese have built themselves a firewall so there is no external feedback mechanism to correct themselves.
     
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    Its your lapdogs pakistanis, not Indians, that makes me wonder if all of you commie gooks are dumbasses. Btw is that pic from global times, the most powerful weapon in the glorious PLAs arsenal?
     
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  14. Jackd

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    One thing I like about communist countries is suppression of religion (brutal or otherwise) making the country truly secular (or atheist) and giving precedence to more important things like development.
     
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    there is absolutely nothing which you can say good about communism. The communism is just another form of Abrahamic religion like Islam because there is no difference between Islam and Communism in practical. Both are conservative social welfare state Btw China is no longer a pure Communist country
     
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    China is no longer a communist country in an economic sense but when it comes to other aspects (freedom of religion, one party at the helm), it is a communist country (to be precise their own customised communism). Say what you want about communism, they have given us two powerhouses, one military and other an economic powerhouse. We also practice socialism ( closely related to communism, also enshrined in the Preamble) in an economic sense, so to say that there is nothing good about communism leads me to believe that either you know nothing about it or you are deliberately ignoring its merits just to argue your point. Even now, after 20+ years of dissolution of USSR, people want to go back to the 'good old days'.
     
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    Yep, but I don't care, since:

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    May I also say you like communist because you hate religion but if you see either countries left communism or extincted like USSR, Venezuela, Cuba, S Korea ( not extinct but they counted as nothing) In
    All communist countries have freedom to follow and practice a religion but if a person want to go in politics then he must give up all his/her believe. Orthodox Church was as respected during USSR as today. Btw.. China is punishing muslims not because they follow a religion but they are involved in terror activities.
     
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  19. Jackd

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    If I gave the feeling that I hate religion, then I have to clarify my stand. I, merely believe that religion shouldn't be given the kind of importance it is given in our society. Yes, there are many who are religious and that is not a problem. The problem begin when there is politicisation of religion and religion is brought into mainstream, just like in several states of our country.

    You gives examples of certain states, but you forget that Greece, from which democracy originated went bust and if it was not for EU and other world institutions, there wouldn't have been a Greece today or that matter even Italy or Spain. USSR was a proud nation, but pride hath a fall and USSR went bust. That doesn't mean the people of former soviet republics feel that it was a good thing as there are many who want the good old days back. In USSR, there was almost 100% literacy, which even after 72 years of Independence we haven't managed to achieve( USSR was in the same state as us, because they were involved in the civil war as well as both the world wars).
    You talk about orthodox church commanding respect in USSR, that is an utterly false notion as the ideology of communists was totally different, eg: The Soviet Union was the first state to have as an ideological objective the elimination of religion. Toward that end, the Communist regime confiscated church property, ridiculed religion, harassed believers, and propagated atheism in the schools. Source: https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/archives/anti.html

    Only after the break of USSR, that we see the popularity of orthodox church rising, when it counted 75% (according to them)of Russia population (around 40% currently) as members, although many of them don't live the lifestyle of an orthodox person. Btw, Islam is the second largest religion in Russia and Hinduism is one of the fastest growing religion in Russia.
     
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    China is punishing muslims because they hate it. It is as simple as that and this is also the reason why they are persecuting members of Falung Gong, which is another religion under persecution. They haven't been able to justify a crackdown on them and there is a consensus among outside observers that China just hates muslims.

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/aug/07/why-uighur-muslims-across-china-are-living-in-fear
    Read the above article to get some perspective and get an idea, before you speak about the topic.
     
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    this what I said, nothing is good about communism. forcing your idea to be it Abrahamic religion or communist Atheism is wrong moreover, they mainstream their ideology too. By the way which states in India politicising religion ??
    Greece bust due to wrong/rigid European union's policy where they can not manoeuvre their fiscal policy like can not devaluate their currency in order to compete in the open market. nobody in Russia wants communism back though some are having good old memories but nobody wants communist even they still have a communist party but nobody votes for them. If you think, As many western documentaries/ news say, Putin, wants to establish old Soviet Russia which includes even Finland, is mere propaganda
     

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