3 muslims Shot dead in hatecrime, North Carolina, USA

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Indians outside north america can't comprehend the racial/cultural hierarchy thats socially and economically enforced here. The victims might have been sikhs with turbans or hindu women with bindis.

The effort by desis to turn it into a muslim issue is stupid and short sighted
 

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Indians outside north america can't comprehend the racial/cultural hierarchy thats socially and economically enforced here. The victims might have been sikhs with turbans or hindu women with bindis.

The effort by desis to turn it into a muslim issue is stupid and short sighted
Very true... The Muslim world is also making things worst by keeping silient on the Muslim atrocities committed world wide against all non muslims...
 

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Once upon a time there was a man who shared same hatred against the jews and commited worst crimes against humanity. It cost him dearly and he saw his country, Der Dritte Reich decimised and humiliated internationaly.

Heil Hitler!
How dear YOU, who probably calls for the death of jews at your weekend carpet cleaning session at your mosque, lecture me on antisemitism!

Muslims murder jews on an almoust weekly basis! We havent been killing jews on a weekly basis, in fact we havent been killing jews in 70 years!

Get your filthy religion and treachorous swamp of a country sorted out before you lecture a citizen of a secular republic on tolerance!
 
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Anschlüsszeit :D ..... In Deutschland Ich hab beobachtet , Leute immer wenden sich an neuen Mosques und Plätzen , wobei Sie diese verrükte Ideologie ausüben und die librale Laune verschmutzen.
Oh man... I will spare you the humiliation of translating this :taunt:

Seriously, never use google translate.
 

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The Jews were not liked not because they were aggressive and tried to impose their ideology on countries where they lived.

They were not liked because they were in a position to dictate the economic fortunes of the country where they lived.

There has been a historical animosity over the ages between Christianity and Judaism.

As per DAVID CESARAN, the English historian who specialises in Jewish history,
what made the Nazis' hatred of the Jews so unusual is that it was racial and it was biological. They believed that the Jews were not just the followers of an abhorrent religious doctrine, or that the Jews had grabbed too much economic influence, or even that they were too intrusive in politics or culture: what made the Nazis hatred of the Jews so different is that they believed that the Jews were biologically and racially distinct and that there was a kind of biological struggle for dominance over the entire human race between the Jews and everybody else.

Another thing that separates the Nazis apart from other people who dislike Jews is that the Nazis believed that the Jews had acquired vast power, and that they had used this power in a malign way. It was the power of the Jews that had led to the Bolshevik revolution, it was the power of the Jews that had led to revolution in Germany, had stabbed the German Army in the back and had brought down Imperial Germany. In the Nazis' world vision not only were the Jews a force for evil, a Manichean, demonic force for evil, but they had vast power, they had their hands on the levers of power. They had to be eliminated, they had to be deprived of that power, they had to be broken and then destroyed. To the Nazis the entire course of world history vindicated that interpretation of Jewish power.
Like the Jew and Christianity issue, the issue with the Muslims is also a historical issue.

However, unlike the Jews, the Muslims have adopted violent means to establish supremacy in this historical religious geographical and temporal tussle.

Unlike the Jews, whose attempts to supremacy was not physically upfront and life threatening, the Muslim attempt at supremacy manifests itself in physical and life threatening mode that is more real, unpredictable and scary. Hence, the backlash is more evident.

Further, the Muslim attempt at supremacy, not only encompasses the Christians and Jews of the Abrahamic class, but also people of all other Faiths and communities to include Atheists, Communists and surprisingly Islamic adherents not of the dominant sect of Islam, resulting a universal and worldwide revulsion and anger.

This profile and activities of the Islamic fundamentalist upsurge signature of unending mayhem, bloodshed and cruel repression has created a fear psychosis amongst others leading to even bizarre 'replies' as in this instant case that defies civilised reaction to Islamic fundamentalism.

In America, while patriotism (love for a nation, with more emphasis on values and beliefs) are said to be their credo, it is actually nationalism (to give more importance to unity by way of a cultural background, including language and heritage) that triumphs. That is why the non Anglo Saxon (in the earlier years) and now white skin and Christian people get away (as in the case of police brutalities reported in the US) and rally the people (white) and give it the national ethical bottom line).

That white skin Christian ethos and hurt (9/11) is what got Bush going with his 'War on Terror' and 'Crusade', which the white world was blind to see before, even though Islamic terrorism was alive and killing all over the Asian and African continents. India was such a victim for long and the white West was in denial till it hit them hard.

Bush's War on Terror got many a white American to the far corners of the world and the fear crazed hatred with combat and weaponry superiority made them go on wild and uncontrolled rampage over the weaker people, who had done enough of harm to get people riled crying for revenge and justice. This uncontrolled and unbridled rampage with no quarters given, got many Americans killed and it affected the psychology of the 'veterans'. They developed the Wild West psychology of wanting and enforcing justice beyond the law and civilised behaviour.

The fundamental Islam has called it upon themselves, but it is also true that the innocent also suffer.

Whether this man who killed was a veteran or not, it is not material. While one would surely grieve for the dead, yet what one should grieve for is that fundamental Islam is not dead.

All human beings, irrespective of community, Nation or religion should actually close ranks to defeat all types of fundamentalism.

Once upon a time there was a man who shared same hatred against the jews and commited worst crimes against humanity. It cost him dearly and he saw his country, Der Dritte Reich decimised and humiliated internationaly.

Heil Hitler!
Heil You.

Superficial and perfunctory understanding of issues as you display does not indicate the reality.

If Islam is in a bad shape today, it is you and your Country, which is the WOMB of Islamic terrorism who has led Islam in to such a sorry state.

Pakistan is always the source of terrorists.

And Pakistan willingly hid the worst of the lot, Osama and stole money from the US lying through the teeth that it was payment for the War on Terror, they were waging against fundamentalists.

Janus incarnate, to say the least.
 
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Shooter is an avowed atheist. Factor that into your speculations.
To derive from a famous 'phrase' used liberally these days; "This had nothing to do with Atheism".
Condolences to the surviving near and dear ones. May the man be suitably punished in accordance with the law of the land if found guilty.
 

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Shooter is an avowed atheist. Factor that into your speculations.
I don't know what to say.

So now we know Atheist killing a friggin muslim is secularism doing a favour on that sorry soul.
 

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The person who killed 3 innocent people will be put behind the bars and justice will be done according to the law ...
No church will go on strike in support of the killer, no atheist will issue Fatwa in his support ...
Its only few people who compare it with religious terrorism ...
Just look what happened after shooting in france ..(thousands supported the killers ..hundreds joined the rallies in pakistan etc )
after every terrorist activities Immams and mullas come forward in their support <<-- this is terrorism ... when general civilians support extreme ideas

In this case no one in general public supports the killer ...
 
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Were they or were they not, killed or in an endangered position of getting killed, because they were muslims?
 

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This really doesn't seem to be a race or religiously motivated hate crime. The only debate this tragic incident applies to is the mental health-gun ownership conundrum.

Either way a terrible tragedy, RIP to the dead and condolences to their families and loved ones.
 

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How dear YOU, who probably calls for the death of jews at your weekend carpet cleaning session at your mosque, lecture me on antisemitism!

Muslims murder jews on an almoust weekly basis! We havent been killing jews on a weekly basis, in fact we havent been killing jews in 70 years!

Get your filthy religion and treachorous swamp of a country sorted out before you lecture a citizen of a secular republic on tolerance!
A brown anglo-saxon wannabe german and a citizen of a secular republic should be put in mental clinic for hate speech and brainwashing people. Germany has moved on and learned the hard way how destructive blind hatered can be. That is the reason the Neo-nazis and your kind will never gain popular support.

Three innocent and unarmed kids have died and you are using this opportunity to spread your mental filth and bashing islam. Shame on you!
 

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Killing of these decent students of well known University is absolutely a Hate Crime....every young person in the US understands this BUT those die-hard racist whites esp. veterans "messed up" in their head are too crazy to control their violent impulses. There is not enough money to provide proper mental health services to these people.
These kids were not radical, fundamentalist Islamists...they were educated, tolerant, modern , good kids ....so I don't support those who are not able to distinguish between good kids from terrorist-type, fundamentalists who hate all other religions and people.
Just wearing a Muslim dress does not make a person hater or terrorist. I have met very loving and humane Muslims ....putting every Muslim in hater category is ignorance.
 
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All this for 3 muslim kids? there are over 100 million christians persecuted every year in majority muslim countries.
Absolutely!!
Blasphemy cases in Pakistan is swept under the carpet even by the US and its allies.
If such Incidents in US is racial...I would say its natural.

Then again why do they have to wear the religious prescription clothes when they are in a foreign land bringing attention to themselves?
 

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One should not flaunt religion and the identification signs just to cock a snook. in land which is not of your culture and tradition.

That invites simmering discontent in people who are from the original culture or of the major culture that is accepted as the culture of that country.

Even so, I would not condone crimes that are committed against such people who cock a snook at the major culture accepted by the Nation. Law must take its course, but folks who cock a snook just to be provocative should be counselled and corrected as to what is the value system of the Nation.

In this case, the whole incident is most unfortunate and should have not happened, even if it was over parking space or whatever.

Charity begins at home. It is time the some Islamic nations show the same courtesies they demand of others of the secular hue, before hectoring and get flailing and kicking in indignation.

That indignation is totally bogus, false and hypocritical.

Killing innocents in droves themselves and they howling and bawling in angered indignation rings a false note and is but a false dawn.
 
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A brown anglo-saxon wannabe german and a citizen of a secular republic should be put in mental clinic for hate speech and brainwashing people. Germany has moved on and learned the hard way how destructive blind hatered can be. That is the reason the Neo-nazis and your kind will never gain popular support.

Three innocent and unarmed kids have died and you are using this opportunity to spread your mental filth and bashing islam. Shame on you!
Shame on you paki!!!!

3 kids get killed in a parking dispute and you go arround whining!

What did you do when the paris caricaturists were murderd? When jews are slaughterd by muslims? And when paki pedophile gangs rape 11 year old girls in Britain?

You say nothing or say that it is normal!

And shove your "hate speech" whining up your goat lovers behind! Where I live, a civilised country, we have free speech and the freedom to mock islam and it`s followers and their repulsive murderous deeds!
 

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