2019 17th Lok Sabha General Election.

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Possible Outcomes 2019 Lok Sabha elections

  1. BJP Majority with Modi as PM

    178 vote(s)
    57.8%
  2. NDA Majority with Modi as PM

    153 vote(s)
    49.7%
  3. NDA with Third Front Coalition With non Modi as PM

    7 vote(s)
    2.3%
  4. Congress Majority with Rahul as PM

    2 vote(s)
    0.6%
  5. UPA Majority with Rahul as PM

    6 vote(s)
    1.9%
  6. UPA with Third Front Coalition

    11 vote(s)
    3.6%
  7. Third Front Govt with UPA Support

    3 vote(s)
    1.0%
  8. Third Front Govt with NDA Support

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. ezsasa

    ezsasa Senior Member Veteran Member Senior Member

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    From a governance perspective,UP needs to be split.
    It is already difficult to provide government and policing services at such a large scale.
     
  2. mayfair

    mayfair Elite Member Elite Member

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    Harit Pradesh (Western UP) will put a state with 34% peaceful population on Delhi's doorsteps. The capital will be Noida or Ghaziabad and you can imagine the rest. Meerut has neither infrastructure or leaders willing to stay there.

    Eastern UP on its own will be like Bihar of today.

    The arguments about big states, ungovernable etc. were relevant when such huge distances mattered, now with improved roads and railways, they are not really prime determinants of inefficient governance anymore.
     
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    Violent peaceful Senior Member Senior Member

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    Only first two points will cause riots across the country by dare sehme MINORITY , which with mota Bhai as HM and crpf with free hand will work in favour of India and might also help in better structure/steps for law and order with special provision for peaceful religion people.

    Your next four points will cause civil war or atleast a nation wide agitation fanned by foreign agencies ,also hatred filled sermons and itch since the lost battle in first two points will further make muzzies mad and maybe they call for another partition.(It might work in our favour ,we can cleanse certain leaders, pockets)

    But if somehow we are able to handle these first 6 points then I don't think any commie jehadi xtian blackmail will work on the remaining points ,and if we survive the first 6 points, we will get close insights into 1/2 front war and we can develop practical solutions/steps for dealing with it WHEN it comes and it will come thanx to most peaceful ideology and even bigger thanx to gandhi-nehru.
     
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    tarunraju Sanathan Pepe Moderator

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    Those peacefuls are already on Delhi's doorsteps anyway. Meerut was always proposed to be Braj's capital as it's one of the countermagnets to NCR.Western UP being far-flung from Lucknow is directly responsible for peaceful infestation. Pahaadis realized this early enough and took Uttaranchal for themselves.

    Purvanchal won't become like Bihar because it's not as overrun by violent gangs, "baahubalis," etc. as Bihar. "Mirzapur" is an exaggeration. It's just densely populated, and splitting it will ensure BJP rules over Varanasi, Gorakhpur, etc., in perpetuity. Purvanchal has tremendous economic potential.
     
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    tarunraju Sanathan Pepe Moderator

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    Amit Shah could have been given Finance. He was given Home instead, for the specific reason of implementing big changes such as the one I listed. Amit Shah used to be the Home Minister of Gujarat. He wrote the blueprint of turning a pre-2002 Gujarat in which peacefuls were dictating terms to a frail/merchantile Hindu majority; to a model state where peacefuls have no option but to integrate or perish.
     
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    Indrajit Regular Member

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    Bye, What happened to bringing in Himanta Biswa Sarma....? Election over....out of mind...?
     
  7. nongaddarliberal

    nongaddarliberal Senior Member Senior Member

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    You know, I wonder what would happen if I wore pro Modi T shirt here in Chennai. I can guarantee it will get violent without me doing anything.
     
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    Vijyes Senior Member Senior Member

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    He is a major powerhouse of Assam. He is in charge of PWD, Finance & Health of the state. Also, he didn't contest lok sabha elections. Assam still has lot if problem and so does NE. Good people are needed at state level too
     
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    Chinmoy Senior Member Senior Member

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    HBS at cabinet level of MoS would be a very bad thing for BJP. He is an acceptable evil in BJP. The moment he is brought into cabinet, all hell would break loose and CONgis would get the fodder to light it.

    Like it or not, his name is involved in every single SCAM across board. Be it SARADA, JICA or any other. State CONgress is already after him. No one would like to bring him at a position where the whole party would get affected.
     
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    Violent peaceful Senior Member Senior Member

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    For DFI's sake plz do the experiment with proper hidden cameras and body cam too , if nothing happens then next time add ARYAN PRIDE too ,we will viral the video and force it to become prime time debate .
    Go take one for DFI.
     
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    Guys..what u think of Ninda Turtle as RM??
    I am disappointed a bit.. though I think Modi is far far wiser than lot of us ..n he must have something in his mind..
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    Mikesingh Senior Member Senior Member

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    With his mile long starched dhoti !!! :laugh:
     
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    Bhoot Pishach Regular Member

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    Apart from Shri Amit Shah. Man to watch out is :

    https://www.news18.com/news/politic...an-resource-development-minister-2166537.html

    Former Teacher at RSS-affiliated School, Ramesh Pokhriyal Nishank Now Human Resource Development Minister

    Ramesh Pokhariyal Nishank, who has replaced Prakash Javdekar as HRD minister, had a short stint as the chief minister of Uttarakhand.

    New Delhi: Ramesh Pokhriyal Nishank, who started his career as a teacher in Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh-affiliated Saraswati Shishu Mandir is the new Human Resource Development Minister of India.

    Nishank came to limelight when he defeated five-time Congress MLA and education minister from Karnaprayag, Shivanand Nautiyal, to win the seat for the BJP in undivided Uttar Pradesh in 1990.

    Nishank replaces Prakash Javdekar, who moves to Information and Broadcasting Ministry.

    Nishank’s nomination comes in the wake of RSS's continued efforts for changes in curriculum and policies which could not be undertaken during Prime Minister Modi’s first five years in office. The sangh, especially its chief Mohan Bhagwat, has made no bones about introduction of the new Education Policy and reforms in higher education system.

    A committee headed by former ISRO chief K Kasturirangan was formed to draft the new education policy. The report is yet to be submitted to the government.

    Nishank’s choice to head the HRD in the second term of the NDA government is being seen as a precursor to possible changes in the education policy as is being pushed by the sangh. He has had more that two decades of administrative experience as a minister in undivided UP when he served as a minister in Kalyan Singh government.

    He also had a short stint as the chief minister of Uttarakhand. He was elected to the Lok Sabha in 2014 from Haridwar, a seat he has managed to retain in 2019.
     
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    amit19 Regular Member

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    RSS need to work hard in HRD ... all shiti mughal stuff should get offfff! Indian history is not mughal history.
     
  15. amit19

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    after WB elections if BJP gets state, he will be CM.
    wip
     
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    Sir, believe me, Purvanchal has a history of gang violence and no I haven't watched Mirzapur, it comes from a close association with the ground realities. The 90s and 2000s saw shoot outs on busy streets of major cities, including Prayagraj and Varanasi. Heck, gunfire in BHU was not unheard of. Things improved during Kalyan Singh and Rajnath Singh tenures, but sank again during MSY, Mayawati reigned it back a bit, but things really took a turn for worse during Akhilesh's time, shoot and run murders of the type Karachi is famous for, were not unusual.

    Some of biggest mafia dons (as they are referred to as colloquially) of UP are from Purvanchal- Mukhtar Ansari, Brijesh Singh, Ajay Rai, Atiq Ahmad etc. and in the past there were Virendra Pratap Shahi, Hari Shankar Tiwari, Sri Prakash Shukla among others, too many to name them all here.

    Now they are lying low because Modi and Yogi have all their testimonials in a vice-like grip, yet they are not out. If the secular gathhbandhan returns, so will the crime-riddled days of Purvanchal.

    There are no large scale industries (save for a few fertilizer factories), no natural resources unlike Chhatisgarh. Carpet trade is a shadow of its former self after being decimated by Swami Agnivesh's slander campaign in 1990s (he was ably funded for his services). Agriculture is the mainstay of the region and youngsters moving elsewhere for studies and jobs. Otherwise, it's only traders (vyapari as they are called in local parlance), who are involved in economic activities.

    This region will need a lot of time and effort to pull it to the levels of North, West and South India.
     
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  18. captscooby81

    captscooby81 Senior Member Senior Member

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    I think he is kept in party for the most crucial WB elections in 2021 . Not sure will he be able to deliver this state ? given now AS is out of party president and moved into HMO.

     
  19. tarunraju

    tarunraju Sanathan Pepe Moderator

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    You make some good points, but the way I read "national ambition, regional aspirations" is "new states, lotsa." By 2021 NDA will have a majority in the Rajya Sabha, and then it can play with state boundaries. You only need a simple majority to alter state boundaries, not Constitutional amendments.

    My wife is a Sigra girl and my Thakur father-in-law can't stop talking about separate Purvachal.

    Purvachal being spun off would chop the scrotum off SP/BSP.
     
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    Ata sir on the new RM..
     
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