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The problem is the very root of it - Quran. I'm telling you, think of it as a social experiment. Ban Quran for one generation and the world will know peace.
The Bible probably has more violence in it than the Koran. So it probably has more to do with the preacher(s) than the book per se.
 

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Influence and distance doesn't matter. Just follow their laws. Ban muslim citizenship in your country like Japan did.
Just over 98% of Japan is ethnically Yamato. And most of the other 2% are Chinese or Koreans. The tiny minority left is mostly Westerners.
So, the number/percentage of muslims in Japan is nearly non-existent.
Japan and other countries like say Slovakia/Czechia/Slovenia/Croatia etc can try banning Islam, at present, because they can afford to.

The situation is different in countries like India (excess of 14%/ almost 200 mil+ millions of illegals) or Russia (excess of 10%) and so on.
These countries are in a pickle.
 

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The Bible probably has more violence in it than the Koran. So it probably has more to do with the preacher(s) than the book per se.
Yes it probably does. But then came the new testament. And development. The thing is, bible & christians change as the world changes. Islam doesn't.

Bible doesn't say that its the final word of god. Quran says it is and hence it cannot be changed. So the rules can't change. Muslims will always keep living in the 7th century for that reason.
 

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Just over 98% of Japan is ethnically Yamato. And most of the other 2% are Chinese or Koreans. The tiny minority left is mostly Westerners.
So, the number/percentage of muslims in Japan is nearly non-existent.
Japan and other countries like say Slovakia/Czechia/Slovenia/Croatia etc can try banning Islam, at present, because they can afford to.

The situation is different in countries like India (excess of 14%/ almost 200 mil+ millions of illegals) or Russia (excess of 10%) and so on.
These countries are in a pickle.
The stats read like that because Japan was wise enough to realise and put the necessary laws in place at the right time. That's why there is no muslim influx there. As per the latest article I read, there are only 10000 muslims in Japan who are working there.

India is indeed in a pickle.
 

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Yes it probably does. But then came the new testament. And development. The thing is, bible & christians change as the world changes. Islam doesn't.

Bible doesn't say that its the final word of god. Quran says it is and hence it cannot be changed. So the rules can't change. Muslims will always keep living in the 7th century for that reason.
Alright, good points. Noted.
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Alright, good points. Noted.
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Way to get India out of this pickle.

Hypothetical scenario, I'm the PM or someone of that sort with that kind of power. I will start a scheme wherein you will be given 1 million rupees per family if you opt to leave India and settle in any other country e.g. bangladesh/ pakistan etc. Given that majority of the muslim population in India are poor, many will take the bait and leave.
 

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The stats read like that because Japan was wise enough to realise and put the necessary laws in place at the right time. That's why there is no muslim influx there. As per the latest article I read, there are only 10000 muslims in Japan who are working there.

India is indeed in a pickle.
Yes, true. Infact, Japanese in the early times and now, are quite xenophobic and they nipped off xtianity and buddhism in its bud as soon as it came to Japan. Buddhism later assimilated into the Shinto system and survived.
In addition, immigration (and also assimilation) into Japan is much more difficult than to, say, Europe.
Muslims did not find immigration to Japan attractive, therefore.
I don't know about current laws in Japan, though.
Has Japan banned Islam?
 

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Way to get India out of this pickle.

Hypothetical scenario, I'm the PM or someone of that sort with that kind of power. I will start a scheme wherein you will be given 1 million rupees per family if you opt to leave India and settle in any other country e.g. bangladesh/ pakistan etc. Given that majority of the muslim population in India are poor, many will take the bait and leave.
Maybe it will work, but probably not.
Bangladesh is not going to take non-Bengalis.
Similar issues will come up with Pakistan.

Better idea, imho, will be to stricter laws and stricter execution of laws.
Uniformity in application of laws.
Also take a leaf from China, and make patriotism a priority over religion. Make and emphasis that religion should be a private affair.
In addition like in china, prefer a model group of muslims over another, say ahmaddhia (or whatever it is called)
Target the other muslims and force them to confirm to the standards of the model muslim community.
Chinese do this with respect to uyghurs, prefering hui over uyghurs.
I don't know how practical this is, just a suggestion; because the way things are going, shit will hit the fan, sooner than later.
 

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This is madness. RIP to the dead.
Terrorists have no religion and no repspect human life.
 

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Yes, true. Infact, Japanese in the early times and now, are quite xenophobic and they nipped off xtianity and buddhism in its bud as soon as it came to Japan. Buddhism later assimilated into the Shinto system and survived.
In addition, immigration (and also assimilation) into Japan is much more difficult than to, say, Europe.
Muslims did not find immigration to Japan attractive, therefore.
I don't know about current laws in Japan, though.
Has Japan banned Islam?

Japan Shut Down Radical Islam Entirely… And Here’s the Simple Way They Did It

The Japanese people are distinctly themselves which is reflected in their government, commerce and daily lives, and unlike many Western countries, they are not swayed by outside influence and political correctness.

As the influence of Islam is being spread across the globe through Muslim evangelism and immigration, Muslims remain persona non grata in Japan.

While Japan strives to maintain civil relationships with Islamic countries for economic reasons, inside the country, Muslims are required to practice their religion quietly in their own homes and are prohibited from overtly endeavoring to convert anyone to Islam.

Out of Japan’s nearly 127 million occupants, only 10,000 of them, less than one hundredth of a percent, are Muslims. Part of that has to do with their ban on Islamic evangelism but perhaps even more so on their ban of Muslim immigrants.

While America and other countries are importing Muslims in droves, Japan discourages their entrance into their country, usually only allowing those in who are there for business purposes.

That being said, most Japanese companies prefer to hire one their own people over an immigrant. The Japanese as a whole are uneasy around Muslims, assigning them all the reputation of radical, closed-minded and less intelligent people with a strange religion.

There are very few mosques or Islamic institutions in Japan and only one imam in Tokyo.

Critics of Japan’s policy toward Muslims claim that the Japanese are intolerant, xenophobic and maybe even racist, while others see it as a “developed sense of nationalism” and an attempt to preserve their unique culture (H/T The Jewish Press).

There may be some truth to both sides. But Islam is an unusual religion whose followers are admonished to wage jihad, or holy war, in the name of Allah or at least support those who do.

The politically correct response is that other religions, like Christianity, have also produced radicals with violent intent, but that’s judging a system by its misuse. A Christian following the Bible’s teaching will help and love others while a strict adherent to the Quran will “fight in the cause of Allah”and wage war on infadels.

If America continues down the road its on, political correctness is sure to doom the nation one way or another, be it by an invasion by foreign power or complete collapse of moral fiber.

If more countries would take a stand against radical Islam, if President Barack Obama would call Islamic terrorists by their right name, then maybe, like Japan, we can preserve our unique culture and hard-fought heritage.

Share this post on Facebook and Twitter if you support Japan’s efforts to stave off radical Islam and wish America would take note.
 

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Yes it probably does. But then came the new testament. And development. The thing is, bible & christians change as the world changes. Islam doesn't.

Bible doesn't say that its the final word of god. Quran says it is and hence it cannot be changed. So the rules can't change. Muslims will always keep living in the 7th century for that reason.
Wrong, the crusades began centuries after the New Testament. Christianity has more blood on its hands then Muslims and Jews combines together.
 

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Wrong, the crusades began centuries after the New Testament. Christianity has more blood on its hands then Muslims and Jews combines together.
Does that make it right?............................
 

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Japan is hardly an influential country, spiritual-wise.
The distance is too much to take inspiration from them.
Worries of second and third world are different compared to first world.
China and Japan these countries owe India Hinduism, Buddhism philosophy evolved en blessed them from not getting in to Islam. China should re align itself with India from its history instead of encouraging Islamic Pakistan to wage terror attacks in India ,Bangladesh and other South east countries. China will suffer if it does not realise this aspect.
 
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China and Japan these countries owe India Hinduism, that where there Buddhism philosophy evolved en blessed them from not getting in to Islam. China should re align itself with India from its history instead of encouraging Islamic Pakistan to wage terror attacks in India ,Bangladesh and other South east countries. China will suffer if it does not realise this aspect.
Actually, most of the chinese and japanese are atheists. Anyways, they are not concerned much about religious ambitions. They don't care much about tackling Islam as they haven't suffered by it as India has. I don't think they will ever support us in that perspective.
 

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Wrong, the crusades began centuries after the New Testament. Christianity has more blood on its hands then Muslims and Jews combines together.
What is your opinion neo about reforms in Sira, Hadith and Quran , excluding the aspects like kafir, jihad , darul haram,Islam etc and follow new Quran like New Testament in Christianity. Why can not your philosophy update with what's good for you and humanity.
 

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Does that make it right?............................
No it's doesn't make it right. I merely corrected you on that account that the New Testament made the Christianity more peaceful.

Read more into it how the Christianity has barred science, encoraged slavery and comitted genocides in different parts of the world.
 

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Influence and distance doesn't matter. Just follow their laws. Ban muslim citizenship in your country like Japan did.
Japan does not ban their citizenshp. However, keep on monitoring all mosques and have surveillance of all of them since 2000s.


JAPAN 29 JUNE 2016
Top court green-lights surveillance of Japan's Muslims

Legal challenge to police profiling of North Asian country's Islamic population dismissed by Supreme Court.


Junko Hayashi is the lawyer for plaintiffs who challenged police surveillance of Japan's Muslim community [Ian Munroe/Al Jazeera]

Tokyo, Japan - Mohamed Fujita used to host religious study groups at his home that were open to all Muslims. But today he's afraid to invite strangers, in case they're police informants.

Extensive surveillance has put many people of his faith on edge, he says, sowing mistrust.

A native of Japan who converted to Islam more than two decades ago, Fujita was one of 17 plaintiffs in a lawsuit that challenged blanket monitoring of the country's followers of Islam. His name has been changed in this story to protect his identity, after police documents labelling him a possible security threat were leaked online.

"They made us terrorist suspects," he says. "We never did anything wrong - on the contrary."

Islam in the Land of the Rising Sun

Fujita's wife first noticed the couple was being followed by law enforcement in the early 2000s. He says he would go out of his way to cooperate with officers when they would occasionally approach him. But they eventually asked that he report on other members of his mosque and he refused.

Then came the leak in 2010 of 114 police files, which revealed religious profiling of Muslims across Japan. The documents included resumé-like pages listing a host of personal information, including an individual's name, physical description, personal relationships and the mosque they attended, along with a section titled "suspicions".

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/...rveillance-japan-muslims-160629040956466.html

~Tapa talks: Orange is the new black.~
 

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No it's doesn't make it right. I merely corrected you on that account that the New Testament made the Christianity more peaceful.

Read more into it how the Christianity has barred science, encoraged slavery and comitted genocides in different parts of the world.
Do you deny that christianity today is far more peaceful than Islam?
 

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What is your opinion neo about reforms in Sira, Hadith and Quran , excluding the aspects like kafir, jihad , darul haram,Islam etc and follow new Quran like New Testament in Christianity. Why can not your philosophy update with what's good for you and humanity.
There is no New Quran nor the need for It. It's the true Word of Allah and It shall be protected in Its original form.
It teaches love and compassion, respect and tolerance.

Problem is not the Book but the mullahs taking money from either KSA or Iran. Islam has been politicized by these two powers, hence there's a religious divide greater than ever and it's becoming a threat to world peace. And who's fuelling the conflict from the west is no secret either.

AL-Qaeda (mujahideen + Taliban) and ISIS are US' creations, experiments terribly gone wrong. But Islam is being blamed for their failures ad usual.
 

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Do you deny that christianity today is far more peaceful than Islam?
Christianity today is practically dead. Euope is becoming atheist and the Bible doesn't play a role in an average Christian society.
 

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