Chinese Troops Intrude into Indian Territory in Ladakh!!!

what options India have if china doesn't pull back from ladakh?


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pankaj nema

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To understand the communication mechanism of bucked up Politburo.




Well...I think the Chinese Troops are gonna have a loooong winter ahead and we will have to "wait" for their phone call.
SO this means that a ROUGE Chinese commander can declare war

Or is it the case of ENTIRE PLA Gone rouge and testing their OWN NEW leadership
 

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Whom did we have as an ally in 1967 & 1986? If we cud take them on in those days why can't we take them on today?
A strong man does not go asking for friends, he acquires them automatically. This is what Chanakya also stated. We need to tell the world that we treat chinese as dirt shit. We will have friends automatically. There is a very old saying in Haryana,
Thaday kee jooru, sabki chachi,
maadhay kee jooru sabki bhabhi.
It means that everyperson treats with utmost respect to the wife of a powerful man and accepts his dominance but do not show same respect to the wife of a weak man.
We had powerful USSR as ally back then.
 

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There is a map, read the map..

That is impossible..... You mean to say Chinese have gone beyong Road to DBO...??
If there is indeed a war going to occur if diplomacy fails, they will die..

Kunal SIr they are so deep they cant go back alive if we cut off their supplies

Have they received any fresh supplies through Chinese Helicopters
 

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We had powerful USSR as ally back then.
Get your history correct. Indo-USSR defence deal was signed on 10th Aug 1971 just priot to 1971 war. and not in 1967. We had US as our enemy then. In 1986, Russia took neutral ground as they opened up to China due to their bad financial position. No one fights fires for no reasons. Even fire fighters do it for their salary. How do you expect a nation to stand with you at the cost of its own citizens? Have you forgotten the early days of WW-2 and the way allied powers allowed Hitler to do what he wanted as long as it was not threatening UK & France.
 

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That is what escaping me.Why would they a send a platoon to squat where they can be fried in matter of minutes.
perplexing indeed.
Exactly this is a weird situation

And specially Indian armed forces HAVE NOT detected any build up in Aksai chin
ie Right Now there are NO Chinese formations being primed up for war

So what exactly are they thinking
 

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Its more a Political Massage then a Military one, Chinese Military are highly Politicized, they even have political officer in every platoon who has same rank of the officer and make up the moral of there troops, Just like in Soviet Army..

That is what escaping me.Why would they a send a platoon to squat where they can be fried in matter of minutes.
perplexing indeed.
Exactly this is a weird situation

And specially Indian armed forces HAVE NOT detected any build up in Aksai chin
ie Right Now there are NO Chinese formations being primed up for war

So what exactly are they thinking
 

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Its more a Political Massage then a Military one, Chinese Military are highly Politicized, they even have political officer in every platoon who has same rank of the officer and make up the moral of there troops, Just like in Soviet Army..
Then do you think this is done as their adventurism with Japan over Senkaku didn't turn out to be anything more than fuel guzzling trip.
 

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How about a simple statement India does not support the "one China policy" I am
sure many nations would join along. India acknowledges the Mcmahon line many
true Indians don't believe for one second that Tibet is part of China.
if china does not withdraw their soldiers soon - we should abandon all cooperation with china including anti-terrorism, joint exercises, one china policy

youre right that many nations want to recognise taiwan .- they are waiting for some large-enough nation to spark the flame - India should do it and many usa congressmen would also raise support

india should totally abandon any friendly policy toward china and in the UN constantly tell how unworthy they are of being in a leadership position - the world should be pointed towards the underground democratic movements in china and the Christians to overthrow the evil communist government
 

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Any statements by Russia?? They also have issues with China stealing territory.
Russia is more interested in watching the USA China
and Japan China conflicts as they will determine the quantum of US Forces in the Pacific

But yes they are wary of the fact that Chinese are nibbling at their territory in Siberia
 

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On Mischief Reef and Scarborough Shoal, Chinese fishing boats and maritime patrol craft were used to establish a presence. On Mischief Reef, this was followed by more permanent fixed facilities, while the Chinese have now apparently built a boom across the entrance to Scarborough Shoal. Beijing has essentially established Chinese control over those territories
Even as tensions remain high around the disputed Senkaku islands, China appears to be asserting its sovereignty elsewhere along its periphery. Indian officials have accused China of a deep incursion into the disputed Jammu and Kashmir region, with Chinese forces reportedly 10 kilometers inside Indian territory.
While there have been regular Chinese probes across the "Line of Actual Control" (or LAC, the de facto Sino–Indian border) over the past decade, this is the deepest penetration yet. As worrisome, this is in Ladakh, in the highly sensitive region of Kashmir, which is claimed by both India and Pakistan, China's longtime ally. A Chinese presence that penetrates the LAC in this region dangerously destabilizes the situation, as it may well be taken as a renewed commitment by China of support for Pakistan. Given the steady modernization of Chinese forces along the Himalayan frontier, the pressures on the Indian military are clearly growing.
New Delhi states that there have been at least two meetings involving both sides' militaries, but with no sign that the Chinese have vacated the area. Indeed, there is a report today that Chinese helicopters have penetrated even deeper into Indian airspace, suggesting that Beijing may be attempting to create a "new normal." Given recent Chinese behavior elsewhere along its maritime frontiers, there is a real concern that Beijing may be intent upon changing facts on the ground by establishing a long-term presence, effectively moving the LAC deeper into Indian-held territory.
On Mischief Reef and Scarborough Shoal, Chinese fishing boats and maritime patrol craft were used to establish a presence. On Mischief Reef, this was followed by more permanent fixed facilities, while the Chinese have now apparently built a boom across the entrance to Scarborough Shoal. Beijing has essentially established Chinese control over those territories, in support of its sovereignty claims.
What remains unclear is why Beijing would choose to make such an overt, antagonizing move now, so soon after the visit by U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, and apparently while U.S. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Martin Dempsey is in China. Given the repeated emphasis on sovereignty and territorial integrity in the recent Chinese defense white paper, it may be that Beijing is reminding the world, including the United States, of its intention to secure what it claims are its borders.
Regrettably, Secretary Kerry chose to spend more time discussing climate change and "green living" in his Tokyo speech than underscoring American alliance commitments. General Dempsey, meanwhile, has reportedly focused on cybersecurity in his discussions with the Chinese. There is an urgent and growing need for a clear statement of American intentions towards the region to both reassure American friends and allies, as well as make clear to Beijing that its policies are not only destabilizing but ultimately self-defeating.

http://blog.heritage.org/2013/04/24/tensions-grow-between-china-and-india/
 

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No Enough, Very puny ..

Army need to be mobilized in case things go wrong, We will have ability to defend ourselves..

Thats what I meant when I told you that IA has drawn up massive plans already to teach chinese another lesson.
I dont know about that in this situation, But every thing PLA play has a plan of a start and end..

Then do you think this is done as their adventurism with Japan over Senkaku didn't turn out to be anything more than fuel guzzling trip.
 

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Mani shankar says at headlines today "i hope India doesn't respond in military language that opposition wants".

He is the mother ----er of highest grade.
 

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Why's Khurshid rushing to China when their soft invasion is on?
By agreeing to go to China on 9 May, External Affairs Minister Salman Khurshid, who himself announced his date of visit to China, has in a way given China a long handle. The Chinese will treat it as a licence to stay put where they are – 10 km inside Indian territory in the Depsang area of Ladakh.

As a corollary to the Khurshid announcement, one can expect many more Chinese incursions in the Depsang area in the coming days as the Chinese will have to provide food and other logistics to their 40-odd soldiers who have pitched their tents on Indian soil. The new incursions will be even more serious as they will inevitably be heli-borne operations
Indeed, there have been reports that Chinese helicopters have para-dropped food articles for their soldiers in Depsang and propaganda pamphlets for the consumption of Indians.
Why's Khurshid rushing to China when their soft invasion is on? - Firstpost
 

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@roma is right we should do something about Chinis, here are the things we can do, to hurt them:

Immediately ask China to withdraw the forces or call up our Ambassador to China and ask Chinese Ambassador to leave India and ready to face consequence. Then take necessary steps to take them out and put all our forces on alert including SFC, test more missiles with extended range. If things get worse test Thermo nukes to validate the designs (this can be our best chance to do it)

We can also take other steps in future like.
1. We should start saying that China has occupied Tibet and after the agreement with Tibet Govt in exile, Tibet has become part of India.
2. Recognized Taiwan and appoint our Ambassador to Taiwan.
3. Send 50 Prithvi missiles to Vietnam on soft loan.
4. Put PAD and AAD on ship and send them to friendly nations on lease.
 
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SO this means that a ROUGE Chinese commander can declare war

Or is it the case of ENTIRE PLA Gone rouge and testing their OWN NEW leadership
What I dont understand it is when they said "This is not sanctioned by Beijing".
Now thats funny.
PLA is the henchmen of Politburo and then this is contradiction
 

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That is what escaping me.Why would they a send a platoon to squat where they can be fried in matter of minutes.
perplexing indeed.
Its simple..They just want to show that famous mode "We come in peace" and we are harmless. They just want to pitch their tent and put up a circus without getting fired up on but create enough ruckus with their circus.
 
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