In a first, Chinese papers 'dare' to criticize govt

Wow, I really admire indian, none of them complaint or have ill-feeling about the slum in Deli, Chinese should really learn from them

Maybe you should learn from slum of India. The slums are there because India protects property rights; unlike China who demolishes poverty areas to boost construction GDP and takes what they want regardless of the efficiency of it. Property rights are the backbone of efficient use of land and resources. China's bad development policy is quickly coming to the forefront and will soon defray the Chinese economy.

Wait a minute, are you telling me all the people living in the slum has bought property right from someone? Seriously, please tell me from whom and when.

And just reminding you, all the land of china belongs to Gov before 1990. The previous owners of these land have been driven out of china before 1949.

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/..._10039168.html

We are well aware China has no property rights... no reason to be proud of it.

Well so they were people who tried to come to the city and make a life for themselves. They couldnt succeed on that day...perhaps some other day. Yes this is called as "Human Rights" which you can understand if you have "Freedom of Speech". To understand something as complicated as India you first need some unbiased education which helps u to say "yeah we need to give these people a better life" not chase them away to a barren land. Every man has the right to choose his profession whatever may be. If a farmer has to remain a farmer and his further generations must also follow suite it is not a justifiable act. It is called "Blatant Violations on Human Rights".

hahaha well isn't this funny


http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...g=6569,2240182

and I quote:

"They say they want to turn this city into SHANGHAI," Badruddin said. "I don't know what the word Shanhai means, but it is an excuse to kick POOR people in the stomach"

The justification by the government? They don't respect free space and they actually have the balls to say it takes courage to kick the slum dwellers out. But in a country where police brutality is the norm, what else can we expect.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapc...ice/index.html

http://www.hrdc.net/sahrdc/hrfeatures/HRF82.htm


"A lady who was 4 month pregnant was brutally kicked at her stomach and lost the baby then, and she was profusely bleeding and was rushed to the hospital. she is struggling for her life.

Another mother and her daughter jumped in the sea creak when police kept beating them and making them run towards the creak.

A women lost her barely a 20 day daughter, Kajal, as she fell down when police was chasing every one .

Below is the horror committed by the government in Mandala Basti, Mumbai where we have been struggling for last two years.

Life of marginalised slum dweller in Madala has been brutalized in the recent worst ever demolition drive in Mandala on the 9th without any proper notice. This was not a scene of a democratic country but worst than a dictatorship. 5000 families have been victimized"

http://aidindia.org/main/content/view/262/74/

Perhaps you should look up how India fares in the Human Rights categories before touting...

They actually have the balls to give property rights...

http://www.thehindu.com/2009/08/15/s...1558951300.htm


Has nothing to do with property rights.


The stuff you posting is 6-8 years old. Get with the times.

6-8 years old and yet nothing has changed.

You are kiding me, right? Reading your own quote again, see how these people get their property.

"Bhopal, April 17 (IANS) The Madhya Pradesh government Thursday decided to confer land ownership rights to all urban slum dwellers in the state. The state cabinet, chaired by Chief Minister Shivraj Singh Chouhan, decided that all families living in slums as of Dec 31, 2007, on the government land would be eligible to get ownership rights."

If they did own that land, why they need govenment to give them the property right AGAIN?


Yes, China doesn't have property right in your fantasy world. That is the fact I always agree.

Heartthrob’s Blog Challenges China’s Leaders
Shiho Fukada for The New York Times

“The government wants China to become a great cultural nation, but our leaders are so uncultured.” Han Han
By ANDREW JACOBS
Published: March 12, 2010

SHANGHAI

IT’S not so easy being Han Han, the heartthrob race car driver and pop novelist who just happens to be China’s most widely read blogger.

Traveling incognito is all but impossible. Local officials frequently vie for his endorsement of their latest architectural boondoggles. (He politely declines.) And love-lorn young women often approach him after races with letters bearing his name. (He says the women have been duped by impostors who have assumed his identity.)

But Mr. Han’s most vexing challenge comes from a more formidable nemesis: the unseen censors who delete blog posts they deem objectionable and the publishing police who have held up the release of his new magazine, “A Chorus of Solos,” a provocative collection of essays and photographs. “The government wants China to become a great cultural nation, but our leaders are so uncultured,” he said with a shrug, offering his characteristic Cheshire-cat grin. “If things continue like this, China will only be known for tea and pandas.”

Since he began blogging in 2006, Mr. Han, 28, has been delivering increasingly caustic attacks on China’s leadership and the policies he contends are creating misery for those unlucky enough to lack a powerful government post. With more than 300 million hits to his blog, he may be the most popular living writer in the world.

In a recent interview at his office in Shanghai, he described party officials as “useless” and prone to spouting nonsense, although he used more delicate language to dismiss their relevance. “Their lives are nothing like ours,” he said. “The only thing they have in common with young people is that like us, they too have girlfriends in their 20s, although theirs are on the side.”

Mr. Han has enjoyed widespread fame since he published his first novel at 19, but his popularity has ballooned in recent months through blog posts that seem to capture the zeitgeist of his peers, the so-called post-80s generation born after the economic reforms introduced by Deng Xiaoping.

Theirs is a generation of only children, the result of China’s one-child policy, and one that has known only uninterrupted growth. Whether true or not, it is also a demographic with a reputation for being spoiled, impatient and less accepting of the storyline fed to them by government-run media.

If Mr. Han’s tongue is sharp, he is careful to deliver his barbs through sarcasm and humorous anecdotes that obliquely take on corruption, censorship and everyday injustice

In one recent post about redevelopment projects that often end in violence and forced evictions, he suggested that the government build public housing in the form of prisons. The benefits would be twofold, he explained: Tenants could make no claim on the apartments and those who make a fuss could simply be locked up in their homes.

His current gambit is a wryly subversive competition that will award $730 to the person who comes up with new lyrics to a song-and-dance routine that was broadcast last month during the reliably soporific Chinese New Year television gala.

The performance, staged by China’s national broadcaster and viewed by an estimated 400 million people, featured merry members of the Uighur minority belting out praise for Communist Party policies.

These were not the policies that many Uighurs bemoan as oppressive — and which may or may not have provoked the deadly riots in the western region of Xinjiang last summer — but ones that supposedly reduced taxes, increased health benefits and according to the singing farmer Maimaiti, filled his donkey sack with cash.

ALTHOUGH his posts are sometimes “harmonized” — a popular euphemism for censorship —his blog, published by one of China’s most popular Web portals, has so far been allowed to continue. Ran Yunfei, a writer and blogger in Sichuan Province, says that Mr. Han is partly insulated by his celebrity, but also by his avoidance of the most politically charged topics.

“He uses humor and wit to laugh at the injustices he sees,” said Mr. Ran, whose own blog is blocked in China and available only to those with the technical means to hop over the Great Firewall. “Perhaps the reason he’s tolerated is because he does not name names directly and he doesn’t go after the heart of the problem, which is China’s one-party dictatorship.”

His other trump card is his financial independence. With 14 books to his name and a successful career as a race car driver, he is not susceptible to pressures that constrain other critics, many of them academics or journalists whose jobs tend to evaporate when their public musings cross an invisible line.

But the government has lately found a way to pique him by holding up the release of his magazine. Mr. Han said the main objection appears to be an article that details the blacklisting of actors who have angered the authorities. Asked what he will do if his endeavor is thwarted, or if one day his blog is banned entirely, Mr. Han smiles and offers trademark sarcasm, delivered deadpan. “I’ll just become a better driver,” he said.

MR. Han has been reinventing himself since he dropped out of high school and promptly went on to become one of China’s best known writers. His first novel, “Triple Door,” plumbed the adolescent angst of those withering under the pressures of family and school. With two million copies in print, it is the best-selling book of the last 20 years.

The protagonists in that novel and several that followed were young men like himself, raised in small rural townships and disdaining authority, especially teachers, whom Mr. Han sometimes likens to prostitutes.

Growing up, Mr. Han says he was given wide latitude by his parents. His father was the front-page editor of a local party newspaper and his mother worked for a social service bureau helping the needy. “My mom gave me an appreciation for the underdog,” he said.

His family’s home was packed with literature, he said, and his father made sure to put the good stuff — books published before the Communist revolution — low enough for an 8-year-old to reach. “He put all the poorly written books published after the founding of the People’s Republic of China high enough so I couldn’t reach it,” Mr. Han said.

When his anti-establishment writings began to affect his parents’ state-run jobs, Mr. Han encouraged them to retire early, offering to support them financially.

Once viewed by critics as petulant and self-consciously rebellious, Mr. Han has moved beyond ad hominem attacks on poets, pop stars and fellow bloggers. These days his attention is largely drawn to society’s deeper problems: a surge in nationalism; the lackluster quality of contemporary culture; and the albatross of sky-high real-estate prices that keep China’s nascent middle-class in a constant state of anxiety.

He blames the high prices on local officials, who sell off land to the highest bidder in an effort to finance public works and pump up the double-digit economic growth figures that keep Beijing happy. High property values, he adds, also pay for all those dinners and fancy gifts that seem to be the birthright of officialdom.

The grim result is a country of young professionals so overworked and distracted by mortgage payments that they have no time to care about what ails China. “The government is happy to see prices go up, people are forced to buy property they can’t afford and they end up living in fear.” Then he smiles and adds, “It’s a perfect situation, right?”

Despite the sarcasm and griping, Mr. Han is an optimist at heart. The Internet, he says, will eventually prod China toward greater openness. No army of censors can completely constrain free expression. “I think the government really regrets the Internet,” he said, pausing for effect. “Originally, they thought it would be like the newspaper or the television — just another way to get their view out to the people. What they didn’t realize is that people can type and talk back. This is giving them a really big headache.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/13/wo...hanhan.html?hp

Freedom of press should be counted as a positive rather than a negative.

If the press had no say some of the politicians will run away with heavy corruption.

At the end of the month heart throb Han Han is going to be hanged to death and CCP would be all Ha Ha and woo hoo i told you so.

Heretic actually.

Anyway the Hukou system is too vast and way too embroiled in the system to be removed in a night. Reforms in this sector will take years if not decades.

At least, there is some indian friends can appreciate the complexity of this problem instead of judging everything on political agenda.