Palestinians accuse Israel of destroying prospects for two-state solution

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    Baruch Goldstein is an American citizen who was totally crazy
    the weapons he got were shipped to him from America
    he is considered mentally ill idiot in Israeli society


    Eden Nathan zada was an army deserter with an arrest order on his head

    BTW: knowing such details makes you a pro Palestinian activist
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    Bye bye DFI KS
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    You asked if I wanted you to go on...I say go on.

    Give me the Israeli counterpart of Hamas or hezbollah or Islamic Jihad or Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade who celebrate killing Israeli children or encourage suicide bombings in civilian areas.

    Dont cop out.
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    If they were American weapons, why was it an IMI Israeli issue Galil? Don't lie through your teeth.

    "Goldstein was active in Kahane's Kach party and was third on the party list for the Knesset during the 1984 elections." << Mentally ill people can become politicians?


    "At Goldstein's funeral, Rabbi Yaacov Perrin claimed that even one million Arabs are "not worth a Jewish fingernail".[21][22][23] Samuel Hacohen, a teacher at a Jerusalem college, declared Goldstein the "greatest Jew alive, not in one way but in every way" and said that he was "the only one who could do it, the only one who was 100 percent perfect."[22][23] In contrast, mainstream Jewish religious leaders "rejected the suggestion that killing Palestinians with an automatic rifle" was authorized by the Torah.[21]
    In the weeks following the massacre, hundreds of Israelis traveled to Goldstein's grave to celebrate Goldstein's actions. Some Hasidim danced and sang around his grave.[24] Although the government has said that those who celebrated the massacre represented only a tiny minority of Israelis, a New York Times report states that Israeli government claims may understate the phenomenon.[24] According to one visitor to the gravesite in the wake of the attacks, "If [Goldstein] stopped these so-called peace talks, then he is truly holy because this is not real peace."[24] Some visitors kissed and hugged the gravestone, or even kissed the earth under which Goldstein was buried, declaring him a "saint" and "hero of Israel."[24]
    The phenomenon of the adoration of Goldstein's tomb persisted for years, despite Israeli government efforts to crack down on those making pilgrimage to Goldstein's grave site.[5] The grave's epitaph said that Goldstein "gave his life for the people of Israel, its Torah and land".[6] In 1999, after the passing of Israeli legislation outlawing monuments to terrorists, the Israeli army dismantled the shrine that had been built to Goldstein at the site of his interment.[6] In the years after the dismantling of the shrine, radical Jewish settlers continued to celebrate the anniversary of the massacre in the West Bank, sometimes even dressing up themselves or their children to look like Goldstein.[5][25]
    In 2010, Jewish settlers were criticized that during celebrations of Purim they sang songs praising Baruch Goldstein's massacre demonstratively in front of their Arab neighbours. A phrase from the song reads "Dr. Goldstein, there is none other like you in the world. Dr. Goldstein, we all love you… he aimed at terrorists' heads, squeezed the trigger hard, and shot bullets, and shot, and shot."[26]" <<<<< Sorry the facts don't match up

    And yes I am pro-Palestinian, I've never tried to hide it. I just know these facts because I like thoroughly understanding what I believe in. If you think it's for religious reasons though you are badly mistaken, I could care less about Islam, let alone any religion. I only follow the vedas and Siddharta Gautama on the basis of personal spirituality.

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    KS

    Bye bye DFI


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    Kach party was banned from Israeli elections on the basis of it being a bunch off crazy religious bastards
    in the only election they were allowed in the 80's they got 3% off the vote
    compered to 60% Hamas got
    so spear my your cheap bullshit

    BTW: imi made and sold weapons in America so your point is invalid
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    "BTW: imi made and sold weapons in America so your point is invalid"

    No it isn't, the Galil was designed in Israel, by an Israeli company, and the Galil Baruch Goldstein was using was an IDF issue Galil made in Israel.

    You can keep denying it if you want, but anyone here can check the facts.

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    your point is meaningless Baruch Goldstein was a lone crazy ( product of American eduction) gun men operating on his own
    in no why different then the school shootings in America
    there was no celebration no street was named after him and no 10,000 men demonstration held in his honor
    unlike some Judaism revers life not death
    all his accomplices( 3 men that helped him ship the weapons) were arrested and put in Israeli prisons
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    The Israeli government appointed a commission of inquiry headed by then president of the Supreme Court, Judge Meir Shamgar. The commission in the epilogue to its report called the massacre "a base and murderous act, in which innocent people bending in prayer to their maker were killed". Among its specific conclusions were:

    - Goldstein acted alone in planning the massacre, telling no one of his scheme
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    Really?


    My point is virtually all of the same terrorists you blame on Palestinians and Hamas are also lone attackers or in small coordinated groups, yet you brand them a completely terrorist people. Israel has done a great job at playing the victim while totally playing down it's own terrorist and right-wing elements.

    And don't tell me that bullshit that Hamas is a "JIHADI TERROR ORGANIZATION!!!!!" I won't listen.

    In February 2012, according to the Palestinian authority, Hamas forswore the use of violence. Evidence for this was provided by an eruption of violence from Islamic Jihad in March 2012 after an Israeli assassination of a Jihad leader, during which Hamas refrained from attacking Israel.[65] "Israel—despite its mantra that because Hamas is sovereign in Gaza it is responsible for what goes on there—almost seems to understand," wrote Israeli journalists Avi Issacharoff and Amos Harel, "and has not bombed Hamas offices or installations." <<< there you go

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    Look at what muslims have done to Holy city of Sikhs, and even though the Israel controls Jerusalem, the Al-aqsa mosque is built on the holiest of jewish shrines, if it were me, I would have torn it down. The same was done in Ayodhaya.. Israel is teaching Islam a lesson, that you cannot shit on other religions while telling others not to shit on theirs. Israel is needed to make sure Islam resigns to the fact, they are just as any of the other religions of the world, inconnsequental
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    Jewish Underground - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The Jewish Underground was a militant organization formed by prominent members of the Israeli political movement Gush Emunim that existed from 1979 to 1984. The group's highest profile plot was to destroy the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem.

    Everything goes both ways. I don't get you... I thought you were into secularism but now you're Islamophobic?

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    when you will show one singe Palestinian convicted of crimes against Jews
    we will take about self rule and respect
    Hamas killed hundreds of innocent Jews and thousands of Arabs in buses restaurants and at home with suicide bombers and crude rockets

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    He is no Son of Govinda, but a False flagger Paki living in Canada. He joined the forum just to make Anti-Israeli thread and post with his brain-washed Islamist mentality. For last 3-4 days, he is doing same thing......

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    the founders of the organization are in Israeli prisons only for piloting such attacks
    it was a small 15 men group of extremists not a well funded terrorist army of thousands

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    I don't need to. The Zionist media in America, Europe, and Israel demonize the Palestinian people more than enough. I'm in Canada, I have to deal with pro-Zionist media everywhere I go.

    Back up what you say with some context and maybe I'll listen. Don't just make statements and expect me to take you at your word.

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    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Why did you come back here, I thought you pussied out? Anyways keep ignoring all my other threads and posts, I don't ask you fools to keep posting on my threads. If you would just piss off already and leave my threads alone I wouldn't have to keep posting on them.

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    If you're implying that the Palestianians have a well funded terrorist army of thousands, they don't

    If you can find such an organization like that, that explicitly resorts to terrorism I'd be more than willing to take a look at it.

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