Discussion in 'Indian Air Force' started by Singh, Apr 13, 2015.
As the title suggests: What would be your dream composition of IAF in the year 2025 ?
by 2025 it should be:
270+ Su 30 MKI
100 SEPECAT Jaguar
~60 Mig 29
80+ Tejas Mk1
100+ Tejas MK2(More in production)
70+ Antonov An-32 Cline
15 C-17 Globemaster
11 C-130J Super Hercules
6 Boeing 737
60+ Dornier Do 228
8+ Beriev A-50 Phalcon
10+ EMB-145 AEWCS
50+ HAL Rudra
80+ HAL Light Combat Helicopter
20+ Boeing CH-47 Chinook
100+ HAL Dhruv
Then AMCA about to enter production , Tejas MK2 and FGFA in production.
Not sure which transport aircrafts will be added and how many.
If I miss any please let me know.
You have missed out very crucial mid air refuelers
we are operating 7 Ilyushin Il-78 as of now not sure which one are we planning or how long are we planning to use them....
>320+ Su-30MKI with 20% undergoing upgrades
At least 96 Dasault Rafale inducted, orders placed for another 96~128
At least 112 Tejas MK2 manufactured
Tejas MK1 fleet converted as trainers and given to the various IAF flight and air-warfare academies (Yelahanka, Dundigul, Hakimpet, etc.), to augment the 90 HAWKs
54 MiG-29, either undergoing upgrades, or being modified to MiG-29K, and transferred to the Navy for IAC-1. They're going to squeeze another decade out of Viraat just for the heck of operating >2 ACs (IOR psy-ops), which means the Navy will need aircraft.
48 Mirage-2000-5 MK2
At least 96 Jaguars
8~16 5th gen aircraft
12~16 Su-34 bomber-config, in case we start bombing Paki ground targets in the wake of a 26/11-esque incident. It never hurts to have an agile supersonic-capable bomber.
12~16 big ground-attack jets such as the A10. US is decommissioning its A10 "Warthog" fleet, and if we could land ourselves a sweet refurbish-purchase deal, it could be awesome
9~12 large (Phalcon) AWACS aircraft
12~16 mid-air refuellers, start retrofitting the Il-78 fleet
i have reservations on both availabilty
You have listed out approx number of aircrafts IAF would actually have in 2025. The title of the thread is "Dream Composition".
My choice would be (excluding those which IAF could not have for any reason):
1) LCA Tejas Mk2 => 40 squadrons or 800+
2) Su 30 MKI upgraded to Super Sukhoi => 20 squadrons or 400+
3) FGFA => 10 squadrons or 200+
4) LCA Tejas Mk1 (as Lead-In Fighter Trainer) => 5 squadrons or 100+
5) AWACS, AEWCS, Mid-Air Refuelers => As necessary for Operation
6) Helicopters (LCH, Rudra, Dhruv, Apache, Chinook, Mi-28 etc) => 400+ or even more as required
7) UCAV (AURA, Rustom 2 or any other Skat/Neuron types) => 50 squadrons or 1000+
1000 Apaches Longbows
100 C-17 Globemasters
500 C-130J Super Hercules
500 Light Helicopters
Latest versions for all the above or next in the series!!
The above list is more than anyone to take on!!
Now thats what we will call a DREAM.
But i will be saying it is a little not possible.
FGFA 200+ Tejas MK2 800+ is unreasonable even with multiple assembly lines.
Rest U have same composition as i have
I will request you to dream big but realistic.
People are talking abt buying more C-130J-30 but nobody is seems to consider the UAC/HAL Il-214.:why:
IF you are really saying DREAM and money is no option..
And 200 odd X-47 just in case.
My list about warplanes is Done
210 SU 30 MKIs
60 Super MKIs
12 Tu 22 M Bombers
60 Mig 29ks
With the Rafale dream BROKEN ; what is the point in dreaming
I am reminded of couple of lines from a HIndi song
Yeh to Sikandar ne bhi nahin tha socha
Aane se pehle khushi laut jaayegi
400 Su 30 MKI's including super sukhois and sukhois configured with Brahmos missiles
300 LCA mark 1 and mark 2
200 PAK FA/FGFA
100 mig 29's
20 global Hawks
30 Phalcon or similar kind of Awacs
30 DRDO awacs
air to air refuellers: 30
300 HAL LCH
500 Mi 8 or similar kind for troop transport
100 Naval mig 29's
300 Naval AMCA's
50 sea hawk helicopters
20 ka 31
25 p 8i neptune
30 c 17's
40 C130 's
10 V22 Ospreys
25 US 2
30 Tu 22 or similar
20 stealth Bombers
1000 naval ALH for coast gaurd
15 Squadron of Super SU 30 mki with Brahmos ng/m ( with IAF improving its mantainence to be available at-least 70% at any time).
4 Squadron of PAKFA.
5 Squadrons of Jaguar fully upgraded to Darin 3 with Engine refit.
3 Squadron of LCA mk1 and 4 Squadron of LCA mk2
5 Squadron of Rafale with Brahmos ng/Nirbhaya integrated .
3 Squadron of Mirage 2k Upgraded.
3 Squadron of mig 29 Upgraded.
Atleast 15 AEW&C (Drdo and imported mix)
Atleast 15 refuellers.
30-40 Apache Long bows.
70 HAL LCH (With improved radar and ew suite than current config)
Excluding transport Aircraft from current list , navy and army aviation numbers are excluded too.
Just buy 65 squadrons of LCA.
I think laser weapons would be a good addition. If all or most of the planes are solar powered, all the better
Yes.......... Agreed, but I propose a substitution of minimum 15 squadrons of AMCA & addition of 25 squadrons of AURA.
50 squadrons => LCA Tejas
15 squadrons => AMCA
25 squadrons => AURA
Its Dream team.. Successive Govt Fast tracks AMCA
224 MK2 in service
30 AMCA inservice with 200 on order
Inhouse nexgen aircraft in final stages of design
Inhouse Trasport(with options of tanker) aircraft on Initial stages of testing
And all the other aircraft that we currently have - retiree
Oh the 100+MK1 Becomes trainers
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