You are not poor in Gujarat if you earn Rs 11

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    The Congress party on Monday sharpened its attack on Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi over the state's revised definition of Below Poverty Line (BPL) families saying that it mocks the poor and asked him to apologise to them for the insult.

    All India Congress Committee communication department chairman Ajay Maken reminded Modi that his party had made a big issue after Planning Commission released the BPL figure of Rs 32 and Rs 28 a day in urban and rural areas.

    "Leaders and spokespersons of the BJP were mocking the poverty determination figures given by the Planning Commission. Now we ask the BJP and Modi, why did the Gujarat government's civil supply department talk about below poverty line below Rs. 10.80."

    He asked if pegging earning below Rs 32 per day was a joke then how should the Modi government's figures be described.

    He also released the criteria of the Gujarat government, from its official website, according to which families to be covered under the Antodaya Yojana in the state are chosen. He said it was posted on December 16 last year.

    According to the site, families whose members' average monthly income is Rs 324 in rural areas and up to Rs 501 in urban areas in a month are covered under the scheme.

    The website also said that while the government fixed the number of BPL families in the state at 13.10 lakh, the state has covered 24.30 lakh BPL families.

    "So as to ensure that in addition to 13.1 lakh BPL families fixed by the government of India, remaining 11.2 lakh BPL families also get foodgrain of 35 kilogram per month, the state government allocates food grains on priority basis to such BPL families, which is made available under APL scheme," it said.

    Maken, however, questioned the need for the circular when most of the central government schemes including food security have already been delinked from BPL and states can decide whom to include in the list of beneficiaries on the basis of household deficiency , social deficiency and economic and occupational deficiency.

    "People of the country want to know. By giving this figure is the Modi-led BJP government not playing a joke with people? BJP and Modi both should apologise to the nation, to the poor for insulting and making a mockery of them," he said.

    Maken also alleged that the BJP and its leaders were "misleading" the nation earlier over Planning Commission's poverty figures.

    To a question as to whether he justifies the fixation of BPL at Rs 32 in urban areas and Rs 28 in rural areas, the AICC leader replied in the negative, saying "We are not defending Rs 32 BPL criteria. The only point we are making is that if Rs 32 criteria was a joke, then what should the Rs 10.80 criteria be called."

    Responding to another question regarding Rahul Gandhi's earlier directive to Congress chief ministers to ensure that fruits and vegetables are kept out of Agriculture Produce Marketing Committee (APMC) Act so that their prices are brought down, the Congress leader that most of the states have done it.

    "The states in which this provision was put in have already amended their rules, while in some states, where these provisions are part of the Act will do it after amending the act during Budget session in their assemblies in February," he said.

    Cong hits out at Modi over Gujarat poverty figures - Hindustan Times
     
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    Gujarat blames swelling number of poor on migrants


    GANDHINAGAR: Under attack by the Congress for using Rs 10.80 a day as earning to identify subsidy beneficiaries, the Gujarat government on Monday defended itself by saying poverty has increased in the state over the last decade on account of increased number of migrants workers coming from poor states like Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, Odisha and West Bengal.

    Putting the responsibility of fixing norms on the Union government, Gujarat government spokesman and state finance minister Nitin Patel said that Rs 324 per month and Rs 501 per month per family criteria for BPL family are fixed by the government of India and the Planning Commission of India.

    The number of BPL (below poverty line) families in rural and urban areas has increased considerably in Gujarat despite tall claims on Gujarat development model — there are 30.91% more such families in rural areas up to 2012 as compared to 2000, a year before Modi took over as Gujarat CM.

    According to the official data of Gujarat Rural Development Commissioner's Office, there were 23.29 lakh registered BPL families in April 2000. This increased to 23.51 in 2006 and 30.49 lakh in 2012 — the total number of BPL families in rural and urban areas stands at 39.67 lakh, according to Rs 10.80 a day criteria.

    "Gujarat provides very good employment opportunities in agriculture and industry so poor people from states like UP, Bihar, Odisha, West Bengal come here. Poverty is increasing because of these labourers. We issue BPL cards to these labours also," said Patel.

    While providing records of Planning Commission, Patel said, "We are following Planning Commission criteria of January 2004. According to the same order for Delhi where Congress ruled for last 15 years, criteria for identifying BPL families is Rs 369.69 (rural) and Rs 541.48 (urban). For Congress ruled Andhra Pradesh it's Rs 263.62 and Rs.484.98, respectively."

    "The CM has demanded rising of this income criteria before PM in National Development Council meetings several times but the UPA government never cared to address the issue. We demand to increase this income criterion up to Rs 2000 per month per person of the family for all the states," added Patel.

    Gujarat blames swelling number of poor on migrants - The Times of India
     
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    But Modi is our saviour. How can it be? :why:
     
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    Enough fools in the world. Believe in half truths!

    It's hard to educate them!
     
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    A major goof up by the BJP. They can only duck below the table and hope for it to blow away fast.
     
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    The critical issue is

    The BPL is laid down by the Planning Commission and that is the last word.

    Last BPL index by the Planning Commission was done in 2004.
     
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    Incidentally BJP tore into the planning commission on the same grounds. BJP deserves the fall out from this.
     
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    the beauty of the system today is one sentence is taken and all the focus is on it. Congress has been caught countless number of times in similar fashion much to the glee of other parties. Now it is the time of BJP. The media is not going to go into the background on this, they will straight go for the juglar.

    I can see Mr.Arnab rubbing his hands and browbeating the BJP representative with sincerity dripping from all the pores in his body.
     
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    C'mon Nitish and Laloo :D
     
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    It's a cut off value for giving ration to poors from State's own money. State government can't revise planning commission's recommended cut off value, they're following 2004's numbers.

    Looks like media propaganda at its best.
     
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    No that is not the end of it. But the story is completely different from what is being made out by the lazy louts.

    All opposition ruled states hike number of poors to be able to come up to the same levels of entitlements, that the Congress states already get for free.

    Gujarat did one better they realized their entitlement was not going to go up because of the special love the certain types of people have for Gujaratis. So instead of hiking to get the attention at the centre Modi hiked but only to get the people out of the Centre's bandwagon of freebies and into his own. The number of families hiked got their goodies from the Gujarat Government and these families are not going to go back into the centres vote kitty anymore. This will obviously not be liked by certain types of people.

    This would have gone against Modi and BJP if the lower limit had reduced the number of BPL families. But the reality is exactly the opposite.

    As they say in hindi - khisiani billi khamba noche.
     
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    The planning commission has come out and said that they issued no such orders. Besides, weren't moditards busy taking a crap on Planning commission when it introduced Rs 32 a day poverty limit based on 2005 data ;)

    Arnab probably had a throbbing erection the moment he heard this news.
     
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    Where & When.....
     
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    there has been no revise on planning commission orders from 2004... that 32 rs a day figures were recommendation suggested by planning commission that were out of synced with reality and hence came under criticisms..

    dont understand the so called notion that BJP should take a fall for this when GOG gets funds from center according to the criteria established in 2004 and how does it revise it when planning commission is not under it..??!!
    hell... its the GOG that supports 11 lakh additional families from its funds.
     
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    may be true but who will tell him ?

    funny part it is dated

    BJP slams Govt for claiming BPL number has fallen
     
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    I don't see anything wrong in his statements. According to him this should be the starvation line instead of poverty line on the basis of economy, he does have a point. And what's funny about the date btw ??

    Here state government is identifying some percentage of families on the basis of number provided by planning commission and want to help them by giving ration from its own account, if government sets the bar high than planning commission's recommended cut off, it would have ended up giving ration to much more families and notably many without BPL card. That's practically impossible.
     
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    or they can sit upright and do something productive about it ?
     
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    The problem with Indian Political parties is that they do not learn from the past mistakes. They all suffer from the foot in mouth syndrome.
     

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