Xi Asks PLA to Prepare for 'Regional War'

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  1. tarunraju

    tarunraju Moderator Moderator

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    Not sure if it's directed at India or other neighbors like Japan, The Philippines, or Vietnam. Xi is probably following the logic that when faced by three enemies in a bar fight, go for the strongest one first, and the rest will fall in line, which is exactly what Mao did in 1961.

    We better get Arihant and Chakra sailing with prototype SLBMs right about now, if they have to reach East China Sea soon enough.

    Xi Jinping asks Chinese Army to be ready for a regional war : World, News - India Today
     
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    why some indian are so mawkishly sentimental? ...........LOL....

    the original report from Xinhua.net...

    red part is the keynot of this important meeting:

    the long-waiting streamlining the operational headquarters of all PLA forces is about to begin...before the important reform, this meeting has set keynote...
    any reform would hurt someone's interests, that's why ' the loyalty of headquarters of the People's Liberation Army (PLA) ' and ' strictly discipline themselves and the armies as well as contribute to the reform of national defense ' were stressed...

    "Aiming to win local(Regional ) wars under the conditions of informationization(High-Tech) and expanding and intensifying military preparedness." is one of the China's Defence Policy and missions, a part of defence doctrine since 1990s....that's why so called ' preparing Regional War' would be mentioned everytime at these kinds of meetings and even daily Propaganda....no fuss please...

    Don't miss the highlight of this meeting --- the Coming comprehensive in-depth Reformation of PLA operational headquarters
    this would be a big event on PLA history...
     
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    tarunraju Moderator Moderator

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    Ok, can you please tell us if the words "prepare for regional war" appear in the report, or did Xi mean "just stay ready to win regional wars if they ever happen" ? Has Indian media taken the phrase "prepare for regional war" out of context?
     
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    Never ever trust Chinese !! Nehru was the first to trust the Chinese and then found out the what they are very late to do anything...
     
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    Ministry of National Defence , PRC...

    Defense Policy
    and nine Defence White Papers since 1995

    http://eng.mod.gov.cn/Database/WhitePapers/index.htm

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    BTW as we always said, "Indian Topic" is always "Rare" on China official media, in our daily life...and if any, most of them are Positive or Neutral...
    many Indian are working ,living here, and some Indian member began to read the official online news webs. you may ask those had such experience...
     
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    duplicated and deleted
     
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    'Prepare for regional war' is a mission specific term without any ambiguity.

    if it were just a general directive for being ever vigilant and operationally ready, then it would not have been regional specific.

    It is a clear indication to the PLA to continuously attempt to organise its forces to be be in positions where it is operationally conducive to launch attacks and be successful.

    The ongoing jockeying we see in Chimar and elsewhere is indicative of China trying to force the Indian forces out of the commanding heights that the Indians occupy in those areas so that they Chinese are not disadvantaged if they have to launch attacks in those areas.
     
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    What about Taiwan, Philippines, Vietnam
     
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    tarunraju Moderator Moderator

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    Yes, all of them. The "three against one" is a figure of speech in the bar-fight logic. When in a bar-fight against multiple enemies, beat down the strongest one first, and the rest will fall in line. India is the strongest, because we're the only Chinese neighbor (other than Russia), to possess 6,000 km ballistic missiles, SLBMs, SSBNs, and a nuclear arsenal to tip them off.
     
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    China for regional response as blasts rock Xinjiang


    Clashes with security forces in Xinjiang killed more than 200 people last year.

    Multiple blasts on Sunday rocked Xinjiang, a border province that is China’s major energy hub, bringing sharply into focus Beijing’s escalating tussle to counter extremism at a local and regional level.

    China Daily, quoting a Xinjiang-based news portal reported that the explosions in Central Xinjiang at two locations killed two people and injured several more.

    Sunday’s blasts follow a deadly attack on July 28 that targeted a police station and government building near Kashgar, also in Xinjiang, killing 37 people, before police shot dead 59 of the attackers, state media reported. Two days later, Jume Tahir, a religious leader, apparently close to Beijing, was also killed at the Id Kah mosque, Kashgar’s largest.

    Clashes with security forces in Xinjiang, home to the ethnic Uyghur minority, have killed more than 200 people last year. A spokesman for the World Uyghur Congress, an organisation funded by the National Endowment for Democracy (NED) of the United States, told AFP that China’s policies had caused people to “resist fiercely in order to maintain their dignity." But trashing this perception, China insists that secessionists from the East Turkistan Islamic Movement have been responsible for the violent campaign.

    Beijing regards the movement particularly troublesome because a network of pipelines transiting gas to China’s industrial heartland pass through Xinjiang. The province, adjoining Tibet, also shares borders through the Wakhan corridor with Afghanistan, as well Pakistan and Tajikistan—all possible conduits of Jihadi permeation into China.

    During a visit to Dushanbe earlier this month for a summit of the six-nation Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO), visiting Chinese President, Xi Jinping inaugurated construction of Line D of the China-Central Asia energy pipeline, which would transit gas across Tajikistan into Xinjiang. But, he warned that attention had also to be paid to “three evil forces" of terrorism, separatism and extremism, which were posing a serious threat to regional security and stability.

    With roots of militancy in Xinjiang spreading into the region and beyond, the Chinese, who are now inclined to include India and Pakistan in the SCO, have pushed counter-terrorism on top of the agenda of the grouping, which also includes Russia and four Central Asian states. The official Chinese news agency Xinhua, noted at the end of the Dushanbe summit that, “Separatist groups in northwest China's Xinjiang, such as the East Turkistan Islamic Movement, which has links with militants in Central Asia and Pakistan, have become rampant in recent years.” The commentary warned that Afghanistan’s Asian neighbours “could face huge security risks,” in the aftermath of the American withdrawal from Kabul later this year.

    China for regional response as blasts rock Xinjiang - The Hindu

    poorki contagious disease is slowly spreading
     
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    Good point to also proclaim unchallenged leadership in Asia (strongest in the bar). But there is USA on the east asia side. Russia is also above. And also presumption that in the bar that Pakistan and other states are not there and would jump in such skirmish. The cost of the fight between India and PRC might get people thrown out of the bar. Also the PRC state is heavily reliant on economic and trade relations and they are too pragmatic to have too much disturbance and they have worked hard to get their prestige in their administration areas (hong kong and macau) and taiwan and east asia region to be a economic powerhouse.

    What I am trying to say is that it would be easier to have a regional skirmish with the above three compared to India. I would put Philippines the ideal target.

    http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/towards-an-asian-century-of-prosperity/article6416553.ece

    I am not sure if that is a compliment if that is a sarcasm but it was done in a "friendly environment". India and PRC is a board game and not a bar fight.
     
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    China is going towards self demolition of what it had built on blood and sweat of ordinary Chinese citizens.

    Fact is

    1) Chinese economy is heading towards stagnant phase.
    2) Housing is on the brink of collapse.
    3) Rising wages.


    If these things are not handled properly, people will soon question CCP, to divert the attention CCP will try to go to war in the near future.

    CCP is not trust able and is unpredictable.

    India should build its capability militarily and also work with like minded countries like Japan, Vietnam for peace and stability of Asia.
     
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    Yes, that was exactly my train of thought.
     
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    Zero interest-rate policy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Communist Party of PRC will still be here for short-term to medium-term. Also Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan and some say USA and Japan have too much entanglement with PRC economically. The first three are not clever enough and the last two will not do it too quickly.

    Sure there is a growing internal disturbance and also external grievances and criticisms of PRC but at the end of the day compare PRC with the other members on P5. That is why PRC make such a announcement.

    枪杆子里面出政权
    Qiangganzi limian chu zhengquan.
    "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun."
    (The gun is here a metaphor for the military. Mao believed that “the gun must never be allowed to command the Party").

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_quotations

    There is also a choice of opinion that says Xi Jinping has no control over the military and what happened on India border is such. Its clever who ever spun that. The India human capital investment in dealing with PRC is growing and they know it and know our expertise in dealing with neighbors.

    India needs to get on the UNSC.

    http://www.business-standard.com/ar...a-s-aspiration-in-unsc-xi-114091800973_1.html

    This is where the board game needs to focus ... the ground rules on the border are childish. the UNSC entry table will be a better board game for India and PRC to focus on.

    What is happening is PRC is also showing that India does not deserve to be on UNSC. The whole visit was planned accordingly. But the message got cleverly misplaced by us.
     
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    And this:
    Xi Jinping reshuffles, scolds PLA brass amid stand-off with India - The Times of India

     
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    Exactly !!

    If China acts swiftly and captures land of India and then goes to Nuclear black mail, It will become a big statement to the rest of its neighbors.

    Conceding land to China is not India can afford, If India wants to be a strong power with its share of responsibilities.

    China wants to expand in S.Asia and China will do what ever it takes to undermine India and its strategic interests. There is space for only one strong power in Asia.

    India needs to put China on the back foot and needs to rise in the coming decade or so , so that the gap between the two giants will be minimum.

    From then on India has its own advantages which will make it a strong power.
     
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    This regional response is just complete fkin garbage.

    I wonder if the Chinese remember this: China thrice blocked moves to ban Lashkar front
    Well...,maybe some pain will knock some sense into their heads.
     
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    One way or the other this is a wake up call for INDIA and we have to be prepared. We too have to be PREPARED FOR A WAR WITH CHINA.

    We have to fill our gaps mainly in the number of IAF squadrons, SLBM's, artillery guns and mainly BRAHMOS BATTERIES MUST BE DEPLOYED IN LARGE NUMBERS ALONG THE CHINESE BORDERS.

    Deploying BRAHMOS in large numbers can keep the chinese army away for a long time. I mean to say that the chinese army can be stopped from entering the Indian territory. We should also get the IRON DOME from ISRAEL in sufficient numbers.

    We have to add more mountain corps. Raising one division is not enough. It is always better to have 3-4 or more and we have to develop our troop mobilization. I think after the 1962 war India must have build tunnels for deploying troops faster and also we have purchased heavy lifters for this purpose.

    Anyway as INDIA is not the aggressor we have to do only a little and we have to be in a position that we do not suffer any unnecessary causalities in the war with china.
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    The best answer to all this is populate the area.
     
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    My interpretation of "regional war" is................a potential conflict in South China Sea instigated by "hegemony" against China and/or blockade of strait of hormuz (near Iran) to choke of oil supplies to China as well as India. I do not see this "regional war" comment meant as against India.
    Did you notice there was a chineses warship on Bandar Abbas (Iran) 3 days ago..on "friendship visit". A clue !
     

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