Would India want to get involved in this mess?

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  1. Sailor

    Sailor Regular Member

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    A Tamil state is one more future disaster the sub continent doesn't need.

    I was reading in the paper here today about the former leader of the biggest Tamil Party in India, J Jayalitha, who has called for Indian troops to now invade Sri Lanka and create a Tamil state.
    Wouldn't this be a disaster for India equal to when Indira Gandhi created Bangladesh?
     
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  3. Singh

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    1. Creation of Bangladesh is not a disaster.

    2. Jayalalitha, Karunanidhi are not PMs nor commanders of the armed forces. They are pandering to the tamils, for votes. Its the elections.
     
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    sailor you must understand this is the election season in india nothing more to say....
     
  5. K Factor

    K Factor A Concerned Indian Senior Member

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    By their logic, IA should be sent to Pakistan as wel..... (rolls eyes). SLA is fighting a terrorist organization, while shelling civilians quite often. Same is the case in Pakistan, PA fighting Taliban, while shelling towns and cities. Why such discrimination between neighbors??
     
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    1] But haven't the Bangladesh army been carrying out border excursions into Indian lands and even taking by force farming land for their own use?
     
  7. Singh

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    Imagine if Bdesh was not created.
    Nuke tipped IRBMs in Chittagong, Sylhet and Dhaka.
    Mass infiltration of terrorists.

    Bdesh border is a major headache, border passes to people's homes at times, I mean your crapper could be in Bdesh and bedroom in India. And Indian BSF posted along Bdesh border are no angels either. The heavy handed behaviour of BSF is one of the grouse Bdeshis harbour against India.
     
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    Bangladesh a disaster?
    Mate the creation of Bangladesh was one of the biggest foreign policy and intelligence success of India if not the biggest.

    You will not hear much from the political parties from tomorrow.
     
  9. Sailor

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    Could you explain this to me please Singh?
     
  10. K Factor

    K Factor A Concerned Indian Senior Member

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    B'desh would still be part of Pakistan, and India would face nukes from two directions, not one like now.
     
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    Bangladesh pre-1971 was a part of Pakistan. If Bangladesh wouldn't have been created Pakistan would not only station nuclear tipped ballistic missiles in West Pakistan but also East Pakistan.
     
  12. Sailor

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    What's to stop Pakistan stationing nukes in Bangladesh anyway? What is their relationship like?
     
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    ^^Bd-Pak lukewarm. And India wields considerable influence in Bdesh. For Bdesh to station missiles in its borders would mean a swift severe retribution from India.
     
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    K Factor A Concerned Indian Senior Member

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    They dont trust the Bengali Bangladeshis. Bangladeshis also dont like Pak that much, the b'deshis used to be treated as inferiors before 1971.
     
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    Oh n forgot the main point............. India wont allow it. :2guns:
     
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    People, We can't say things like that, First of all remember Tamil Nadu is also has a part in deciding the future of the Center(Fate of our Nation) They can push for a small scale offensive, even there are possibilities that MP's from TN can topple the Central Government(Jay has done in the past)

    But this doesn't mean Jayalaitha or Karuna have deep affection for the Tamil in Sri Lanka, It is all in the politics, Let election get over, these speeches will be gone with the wind. Vote banks plays.

    God Save innocent Civilians......
     
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    Another Cuban missile will be the result mate. And Pakistan is no USSR of that time to support Bdesh.
    Indian blockade will finish off Bdesh.
     
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    bds dont like pak is a wild comment.....infact bds relationship with pak has boosted in the last 5years or so with greater military collaboration,and also talks of pak supplying the subs for free.....things got better with the misconception about the farakka barrage in india......but the point to note is,this things took place under bnp rule,who are anti-india extrimists,now with awami league in the govt with a whopping victory in the elections,things are improving and improving fast....bnp was mostly supported by the many paks who got stuck in bd after 1971,and also by some terrorist groups....but the hasina govt has the support of the majority bengalis...,.so things are going in the rite direction for us...thnx
     
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    Sailor,


    india has never been interested in forming a separate talim country by dividing sri lanka and believe me if india wanted to create a separate state nothing was stopping india from doing it in the past and even today nothing stops us but no one really supports the concept in main stream politics of our country, on the contrary india has supported the SLAF by suppling not so lethal equipment. state politics are different and for that to understand you have to visualise a situation where aussies are being slaughtered in some other country, what would be the reaction in your country. sentiments are generated and certain sentiments are in the extremes and what you heard was the extreme which has appreciation in certain corners but is never the main stream thought of the state. the major concern for all of us in the country are the innocents who are being used as shields and have got stuck in the cross fire, the only request are making to both the tigers and the govt is let these innocent civilians have a safe passage something that is echoed by the usa and the un. as has been sighted, the resonance of extreme sentiment was more of a election propaganda and now that the elections are over, all such talk will be off air and no more reference will be made in the future, even sri lanka understands and appreciates these facts and their govt has said this is more of an election talk.


    as has been pointed out by yusuf, one of the finest moments of indian armed forces, foreign policy and diplomacy was the creation of bangladesh. so as to understand the reasons of creation of bangladesh one has to read history but you can judge the level of atrocities in the east pakistan (now bangladesh) by just scanning at the astonishing figure of 3million people who were systematically killed by the pak army prior to the creation of bangladesh and you would appreciate the anti-west pakistan sentiment in populace generated because of this genocide. the superior west pakistanis never gave power to their so called brothers on the east who were labeled as bengalis and biharis but never as pakistanis and even today their so called brothers who are till date referred as biharis live like refugees in bangladesh and have not been allowed to get to their so called mother land pakistan. that is the extent pak army discriminates amongst their so called own, even today pakistan army is working on another bangladesh in baluchistan where every year numerous innocents are disappearing but that is for another topic.


    as far as nuclear civil plants are concerned, india has no problem with them acquiring till the time it is being put to use for civilian purpose and if it is coming from russia we really do not have any problems with it, most of the places where russia is involved, india diplomacy is reasonably comfortable till the time the other party of course is prc of pakistan. with the present government in bangladesh, india for the moment is reasonably assured that we have a non-hostile neighbor. our concern about this country is if they are made into a radical society like the one in pakistan and for the moment we are working with groups in that country who do not want such a thing to happen, will we be successful, only time will tell but surely there are sings emerging that have us worried.
     

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