World military strength, a comparison

[santosh10]

shocking part is that advance country (China) does not have state of the art, air defense guided missile system. Now they will get it from Russia.

@sgarg

Vietnam is one of the closest military ally of India in its oil search in that region. I dont see even Vietnam ever looking on US for help with its rivalry with China?


as discussed in the post#5

//defenceforumindia.com/forum/internal-security/65544-world-military-strength-comparison.html#post977951

over 5.0mil+ military of Vietnam can well defend it from any border, while we may put upto 20mil+ military in service, if its needed for the people, the country, the society, Independence, for the sake of our coming generation

 

[sgarg]

@santosh10, I am afraid you are on a wild goose chase. I am not sure what you are trying to prove here. I do not see any war with middle-east at all.

India maintains good relations with Muslim countries. The problem of terrorism will be dealt with primarily by internal security apparatus. Terrorism is not a reason for war.

The extreme situation where India sees significant direct hostilities will be a reason for outright war. Such a situation is very unlikely except in case of one country - Pakistan.

You must remember that India has lot of options in case of Pakistan. It is not that Pakistan will have a cakewalk here.

 

[santosh10]

@santosh10, I am afraid you are on a wild goose chase. I am not sure what you are trying to prove here. I do not see any war with middle-east at all.

India maintains good relations with Muslim countries. The problem of terrorism will be dealt with primarily by internal security apparatus. Terrorism is not a reason for war.

The extreme situation where India sees significant direct hostilities will be a reason for outright war. Such a situation is very unlikely except in case of one country - Pakistan.

You must remember that India has lot of options in case of Pakistan. It is not that Pakistan will have a cakewalk here.

Wiping Out the Center of Islamic Terrorism

along with Pakistan, im mainly concerned with the terrorism import from Bangladesh, with keeping option to wipe out Saudi Arabi+UAE, both, as the very first step to destroy this Islamic Fanatic religion, discussing the root cause behind these two rouge neighbor of India.

why would they increase their population to export Islamic terrorism to other countries, while Saudis and UAE both have lost their existence, already? the very first step in this regard.

take the words, we guarantee you a complete clean up Middle East Sunni Fanaticism, we only want a "kick-start"

:thumb:

 

[santosh10]

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we have something more on this topic :ranger:

youtube.com/watch?v=2O0NxKyd5A4

 

[santosh10]

BRIC MILITARY MODERNIZATION AND THE NEW GLOBAL DEFENSE BALANCE

The message promoted by foreign policy gurus in recent years is that the American moment is over and a new global balance is emerging; one where power is no longer concentrated in Washington but spread among several different countries. The U.S. will continue to retain a prominent position at the top of the global food chain we are told, but no longer will there be the sense of American worldwide hegemony. Instead the emerging nations of Brazil, Russia, India and China (the so-called "BRICs") will assume their rightful place as great powers and in the process create a new multi-polar world. :thumb:

This is not, perhaps, what European proponents of a multi-polar world may have had in mind when they advocated for global power to be diffused shortly after the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003. But despite its modern weaponry, two million combined soldiers and its overall economic wealth, Europe suffers from several mitigating factors, not least of which is the lack of a unified army that appears no closer today than it did in 1998 when Jacques Chirac and Tony Blair reached an agreement at St. Malo creating a path towards pan-European defense.

The BRICs have three things in common. Each is large both in terms of size and population; each has an expanding economy; and each is undergoing a military modernization effort aimed at preserving their strategic interests. While Europe's strongest nations are cutting defense spending and the U.S. defense budget is set to flat-line in the coming years, these four countries are seeking to assert themselves on the global stage and are willing and able to invest in improving the capabilities of their armed forces.

Brazil's economy has continued to grow and despite a small hiccup during the global economic slowdown of 2009 is expected to expand by 7.5 percent this year. As its economy has grown so too has the recognition by government officials that a major military modernization is in order if Brazil is to underwrite its claim to hydrocarbon deposits outside its traditional offshore border and gain a permanent seat on the United Nations Security Council. Flexing its muscles as the preeminent power in South America - both diplomatically and in a benign show of military strength - may go a long way towards achieving the latter for Brasilia.

Since 2005 the Brazilian defense budget has grown by 5 percent per year and the government approved a new national defense policy in 2008 that set aside $70 billion for reequipping the army. New items are to include 50 Eurocopter Cougar (EC-725) medium-lift helicopters, unmanned aerial vehicles, anti-tank weaponry and a new family of armored vehicles from IVECO (referred to asUrutu III).

There is also a long-term naval expansion that has attracted much interest from the French and British defense industries. The French are selling Brazil four Scorpene-type conventional submarines, while the British are eager to gain access to one of the world's fastest growing military markets by inking deals with Brasilia for its purchase of BAE Systems' design-phase Type-26 frigate. An impending decision on the winner in the multibillion F-X2 new-generation jet fighter competition will pave the way for the Brazilian Air Force to acquire 36-plus modern combat aircraft, most likely the French-made Dassault Rafale.

All of these improvements are of course expensive and Brazil has planned accordingly, figuring that its annual share of defense expenditure will rise from the current 1.5 percent of GDP to 2.2 percent by 2030.

Russia presents a different case than Brazil in that unlike the economically ascendant South American nation it is used to being considered a global power and expects to be defined as such. While Brazil's military modernization effort comes as the country seeks acceptance among the global elite, Russia aims to retain and improve those defense capabilities that once enabled it to be seen as a first-tier military power alongside the U.S. :tup:

The breakup of Russia's former Soviet empire afforded the country the opportunity to shift to a market-based economy, but also left enduring scars stemming from a lost sense of prestige as one of the world's two former superpowers. The Russian leadership of Vladimir Putin and Dmitri Medvedev has sought to rectify this by reasserting the country's presence throughout its former Soviet domain and utilizing its energy resources to wield influence further afield.

While Russian military aircraft have repeatedly penetrated the air space of NATO member countries during exercises in recent years, it was Moscow's military incursion into Georgia in August 2008 that signaled that Russia would willingly lean on its hard power to preserve its position in its post-Soviet near abroad. :coffee:

Though the brief war may have seen the Russian Goliath overwhelm the Georgian David, it also exposed a slew of Russian Army shortcomings in terms of training, equipment, reconnaissance, logistics support and real-time battlefield coordination.

The performance of Russian forces in Georgia ultimately proved to be a catalyst in the Kremlin's decision to launch a comprehensive, 12-year military reform effort in October 2008. This reform and modernization plan laid out by Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov seeks to transform the heavy, mass-mobilization Russian military into a smaller high-readiness force better able to support the Kremlin's strategic objectives and tackle events along the country's periphery on short notice.

As part of the new plan a special emphasis has been placed on weeding out the aging Soviet-legacy hardware and acquiring more modern equipment. What is eye-opening in this regard is the willingness of the Russian leadership to embark on purchases of foreign-produced armaments - in particular the possibility that one of those suppliers may include the U.S. Moscow is already locked in negotiations with France over the purchase of Mistral-class helicopter-carrying amphibious assault ships and is still hoping to clinch a deal with Israel for the launch of a $300 million joint venture involving the manufacture of unmanned aerial systems in Russia.

It is estimated that only 10 percent of Russian military hardware meets modern standards. The new defense plan aims to amend that situation by tripling the ratio of new-generation equipment to 30 percent by 2015, then 70 percent by 2020. All this - plus the need to recruit high-caliber officers and soldiers for the new army - comes with a high price tag. The Kremlin plans on boosting its 2011-2020 arms budget accordingly by 46 percent, from 13 trillion rubles to 19 trillion ($620 billion). :tup:

Whether the government's efforts at transforming the military and resuscitating Russia's once-dynamic defense industry through greater investment, foreign technology transfer and the creation of a Russian version of the U.S. Defense Advanced Research Products Agency (DARPA) pan out, there can be little doubt as to Moscow's commitment and level of ambition. Its latest plan indicates that the Kremlin has little interest in managing Russia's decline and instead figures to continue competing for influence in the emerging multi-polar world order. :thumb:

//eurodialogue.org/BRIC-Military-Modernization-and-the-New-Global-Defense-Balance

 

[santosh10]

India's military strength on the rise
April 15, 2013

India has successfully test-fired an "Agni II" surface-to-surface ballistic missile capable of carrying a nuclear warhead of one ton. The missile, equipped with solid fuel engines, has a range of 2,000 km. According to Russian newspaper Nezavisimaya Gazeta, the launch once again proved that India has a reliable deterrent. As one of the world's largest arms-importing countries, India's weapons and equipment replacement program have been designed in response to armed conflict with Pakistan and to contend with increasingly military powerful China. For Russia, the consolidation of India's military forces goes hand-in-hand with Russia's strategic interests. :ranger:

India's self-developed "Fearless" domestic subsonic medium-range cruise missile looks like the U.S. "Tomahawk" cruise missile. :coffee:

As The Economist pointed out, the overall strength of the Indian armed forces is rapidly increasing. In the last five years, India had imported most arms in the world. For a long time, Russia has been India's main weapon supplier. According to a report released by the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, India purchased weapons and equipment worth a total of $ 17.3 billion from Russia from 2007 to 2011. Additionally, India is in negotiations with French Dassault to buy 126 Rafale fighters, worth a total amount of over 12 billion dollars.

In terms of army-size, the total strength of the Indian Army in Asia comes next to China's. India's defense budget has reached $ 46.8 billion. In the construction of nuclear power, India has 80 or more nuclear weapons, and the number is likely to increase further. As to the country's power in terms of nuclear weapons, India's surface-to-surface missiles appear able to cover the whole territory of Pakistan and most parts of China.

New Delhi believes that instability in Pakistan and the world's second-largest economy China, are most likely to pose a threat to India's security. From a geopolitical point of view, China undoubtedly catches the Indian leaders' attention. As Indian Defense Minister Antony had declared in 2009, "India's major threat is not Pakistan, but China."

Recently, despite India-Pakistan relations showing signs of abating, the situation still carries the possibility of escalating at any given time. China, as Pakistan's traditional ally, may help Islamabad in its fight against India. China, although it has never formally stated its stance on this matter, has provided Pakistan with a large number of weapons and nuclear technology, according to Nezavisimaya Gazeta.

In addition to the Pakistani army, several jihadist communities active in Pakistan have also caught India's attention. These communities frequently organize terrorist attacks on domestic Indian objectives.

"Bharatiya Janata Party, one of the two major political parties in India, has strong nationalist tendencies. It has opposed the partition scheme implemented by the UK and advocates the re-inclusion of Pakistan in India's territory. This claim, although not recognized by the Indian government and mainstream political forces, is likely to affect the relationship between India and Pakistan," Tatiana Shomyan, director of the Institute of Oriental Studies of the Russian Academy of Sciences, said in an interview with Nezavisimaya Gazeta.

New Delhi is seeking to normalize relations with Islamabad. But no one knows what will happen next if the U.S. and NATO pull out of Afghanistan.

"The border dispute between China and India is not a major problem. The border situation is stable. What disturbs India most is that China is establishing and consolidating new outposts around India, especially in the Indian Ocean area. A Chinese company has obtained control of Pakistan's Gwadar Port. In addition, China also hopes to perfect its naval support capabilities with the help from Sri Lanka. India is in response expanding its naval force. It is not having a conflict with China, but competing for influence in South Asia," Tatiana Shomyan remarked on Sino-Indian Relations.

In order to maintain the strategic balance within the region, India is likely to seek the support of Moscow. Traditionally, India and Russia have maintained friendly relations at a political level, and this relationship has never been affected by any other geo-political disputes.

//china.org.cn/world/2013-04/15/content_28542572.htm

 

[santosh10]

India closes in on $20 billion Rafale deal
16 Jul, 2014

NEW DELHI: Unruffled by the lastditch bids being made by countries like the US, UK, Germany and Sweden to wade into the "mother of all defence deals", India is quietly continuing its final negotiations for acquiring 126 French Rafale fighters under the almost $20 billion MMRCA (medium multi-role combat aircraft) project.

Defence ministry sources on Monday said another meeting of a sub-committee of the ongoing CNC (contract negotiation committee), which includes representatives from MoD, IAF, DRDO and Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), is slated to take place on July 17-19 in Bangalore with the French companies led by Dassault Aviation.

As reported by TOI last month, the complex negotiations have now reached a stage from where they can be wrapped up in the next three months, with over 50 per cent of the final contract as well as the inter-govern mental agreement already finalized. "After that, it will be a political call. The approval process will go right up to the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) before the contract can be inked," said a source.

Once the project is finalized, the first 18 jets are to be delivered to IAF within 36-48 months, while the rest 108 will be manufactured by HAL with transfer of technology over the next seven years.

With the final lap in sight, a lot of heat and dust is now being generated by the rivals earlier eliminated from the race after exhaustive technical and commercial evaluations since the MMRCA selection process began way back in August 2007. Last week, for instance, visiting British foreign secretary William Hague lobbied hard for the Eurofighter Typhoon, which is backed by the UK, Germany , Spain and Italy, during his meetings with the Modi government. Germany , too, is learnt to have renewed the push for the Typhoons.

Similarly, the US lobby still harbours hope that either the F/ A-18 `Super Hornet' or the F-16 `Super Viper' can fly back into the MMRCA competition, and it will set the "right tone" for PM Modi's meeting with President Obama in Washington in September.

But the Indian defence establishment is quite clear there can be"no comebacks" in the ongoing MMRCA project."There are only two possibilities. One, the deal is inked for the Rafale jets. Conversely , the entire MMRCA process is scrapped, after being in the works for a decade, with a fresh global tender or RFP (request for proposal) being issued," said the source.

With IAF down to 34 fighter squadrons, when at least 44 are required, IAF has identified the MMRCA project as its"topmost priority" for the Modi government.

//articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2014-07-16/news/51600375_1_eurofighter-typhoon-mmrca-dassault-aviation

 

[prohumanity]

The bottomline is that we are heading towards a world where major nations such as US, China, India ,Russia will be equipped with so many and so powerful weapons that they will be very fearful of each other and therefore, there will be no possibility of war between them. War in these circumastances will only mean one thing and that is "mutually assured destruction" which no body will want. Multi polar world with just world order is emerging. Hegemony days are numbered. Time for mutual respect and harmony !

 

[santosh10]

The bottomline is that we are heading towards a world where major nations such as US, China, India ,Russia will be equipped with so many and so powerful weapons that they will be very fearful of each other and therefore, there will be no possibility of war between them. War in these circumastances will only mean one thing and that is "mutually assured destruction" which no body will want. Multi polar world with just world order is emerging. Hegemony days are numbered. Time for mutual respect and harmony !

i think, my post as below also have a place here :thumb:

India has to be ready to sacrifice a part of society for the good/Independence/respect of All

Islamic Fanaticism by involvements of Bangladesh+Pakistan, is funded by Saudi Arabia and supported by US/UK

sir, time has come when we all have to be ready to sacrifice a part of our people, for the good/Independence/respect of rest of society.

we had first half of 20th century for fighting for Independence, then 50s/60s/70s for building rural infrastructure, and then 80s to last decade for Industrialization. while now we have the time of wars related to Religion/Race/Identity/Culture/Belief/Language etc, and here we may need valuable experience of 10th to 18th century of Religious wars, the key experience in this regard. :ranger:

Islamic Fanaticism in India is rising by the direct involvements of Pakistan+Bangladesh, funded by Saudi Arabia, and 'fully' supported by US/UK, with their 'belief' that, "Organizing Internal Conflicts among the people, 'divide and rule', would finally help them establish 'Commonwealth Rule' over Indian Subcontinent as whole."

an effort is in place to 'unite'/'more people to people connectivity among people of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh to have further conspiracies like how we find Indian Muzahidin like Azmal Kasab coming from India, with hindu type red stings on hands, who killed Mr Karkare, the Sanjhauta Express investigator too to give enough reasons for Hindu groups involvements in Mumbai attack. one person, Kasab, was caught otherwise Mumbai attack conspiracy was almost successful. and you won't have this type of luxury of getting someone like Azmal Kasab, 'alive' to prove that they were not qualified for representing 'Indian' Muzahidin, whether Hindu or Muslims..... and this type of people to people connectivity/uniting Pakistan+Bangladesh is a direct effort to fulfill the these intentions

i know many of Canada in Sikh Turbans who say they are Sikhs from Pakistan, while they are the Pakistani Muslims, in fact. we even know Indian Muzahidin came in light by the first bomb blasts during the IPL 2008, we never heard about this organization before. and now it has become the most serious terrorist organization working against India, the nation, at present. and the news we are getting confirms that Indian Muzahidin has very high rise in the North East and West Bengal region because of increased participants of Bangladeshi members. and hence having a control on the Bangladeshi infiltrators/ stopping them to come to India, in the key in this regard......

as a single man, i personally find this "Existential Threat" imposed on India, the nation, is 'totally' governed by the establishments of US/UK/Commonwealth, while the players of Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Bangladesh are just the toys. and hence we do need to have allies in this regard too. this is the "existential wars", the world is moving towards from now, and we need friends in this regard. and among them, we find our one of the closest Ally, Burma, who just had high level riots within, between Buddhist to Muslim from Bangladesh, on the other hand we have Iran+Iraq type Shia Majority countries, who may help us even wipe out Saudi Arabia as whole too, if required, even if we know that the main behind all these are the US/UK..... we may need a type of wars which may require, "leaving none taking breath in any certain region too", for the good/independence/respect, for the sake of our coming generation....

and we do expect to have help on this regard from the similar interested countries like Japan, China, Thailand, Vietnam etc type countries, as we do know that once we will move towards 'divide' on the name of Religion/Race/Culture/ Identity/Belief etc, we will get allies in this regard too, obviously. hence the black countries of Africa also may find themselves comfortable with us...

we have to be ready to sacrifice a part of us/ our people, for the good/respect/independence, of all. we are moving towards wars from now onward, and only war preparation we need in this regard. like, twice police, twice CRPF etc, twice expenditure on the Internal Security, with enough storage of WMDs may also be required in this regard. if Russia has over 10,000 nuclear weapons, not because they want to destroy the whole world 300-400 times, even 100-200 is enough to completely destroy this world, true. but they know the meaning of preparation. while im mainly concerned with an enough storage of chemical and biological weapons, which may help us 'clean up' few areas as whole, if required...

we are moving towards only wars form now onwards, for our people/freedom/independence/society/respect, to maintain dignity of our coming generation, and the "worthy cost" will be required in this regard

 

[santosh10]

Growing economy brings growth in literacy, employment, awareness etc etc it gives strength to kick out these bas**** out of India.

its not 18th century that countries can be colonized, neither its 1944 that only US can use nuclear weapons. we have to many weapons in world which may even destroy this planet many times, and we all have to live on this earth, we all know this......

we have knowledge, people, resources, and experience the key, and these hurdles are nothing but it all bring further valuable experience, which will definitely help the next generation to have better preparation for their defence, for the society as whole

 

[santosh10]

The reason why pakistan is using such tactics of putting the blame on so called " Hindu terror" which is nothing but a figment of Pakistani and some Indian sikular imagination is that when the war on terror started Pakistani govt was put under enormous pressure to curb its terrorist activities by United States so pakistan decided to resort to creating Indian home grown terrorist and another concept of " Hindu terror" was concocted in Pakistan with the help of Indian traitors to malign Hindus as a whole and to somehow prevent Americans on putting pressure on them. So propaganda of Hindu terror was created and hindus were deliberately put on defensive by Pakistanis and Indian traitors.
Sadly to tell the truth the terror attacks have lessened over the years especially after 26/11 is only due to American pressure , IB and RAW have very very little contribution towards it , that's why pakistanis want to create Indian home grown terror and so called Hindu terror for plausible deniability and to save itself from US pressure.

A New Phase of Terrorism in South Asia

you have entered in a new phase of terrorism, imposed on India, the nation. now enemies first want to become friend to have the best position to attack. no matter whom you talking from Bangladesh and Pakistan, they are always good people to help their establishment enter in India, to destroy this country.....

they got a proper learning in this regard from the establishments of UK/Commonwealth nations too. "never say you want to attack, and always find those from India within, who may help you break this country from inside." they first want to enter in this country as friends, and their Islamic Fanaticism intentions are always clear, backed by the falling economies, the UK/Commonwealth nations......

for example, once you bring Saudi Arabia+UAE on the "direct hit" target, language of false ID people of Pakistan and Bangladesh change here. and again, once you bring UK and their allies on the direct target by bringing few allies like BRIC in this regard, their language again change and they again become friends....... once a bAstard come on target, change his/her language, and once he/she gets some space, they again try the same.....


no need to give space to those who are fighting for religion/race/identity/culture/belief/language etc, no need to give space to "Bastardized Goodness", as you have to defend your people/Independence/honor of your society as whole.

 

[santosh10]

Any Crime on the soil of BRIC must be a Punishable Offence

sir, if US and their allies do any crime in any part of world, it must bring a price for them on their own soil. i mean, if US and their allies like UK may do something on the soil of BRIC, then BRIC must be able to make them pay a 'fit' price on their own soil. for example of location wise, Russia may even crush whole UK/Britain within a day, and it would definitely help the establishments of US learn a lesson too. in fact, crushing whole UK by air/water and other means within a day, too easy for Russia, will suddenly help us get a 2009 type recession in world which will eventually help these highly indebted OECD economies learn enough, while Russia already has too many sanctions..... Eurozone economy still below its 2008 level, the way they have borrowed so much debt since then, any more 2008-09 type recession will eventually 'finish' them....

Doing crimes on the soil of BRIC must be a punishable offence, the people behind any wrong on the soil of BRIC must not be allowed to walk away unpunished. there must not be any reason, why they can't be punished, just because territories of US/UK may defend those certain criminals. if the establishments of US/UK allow criminal activities in any part of world, by using their government agencies funded by the tax payers/voters who elected these governments of US/UK, then it will be a price for all the voters/tax payers of US/UK, which must be demonstrated with whatever arms, the BRIC have :thumb:

 

[santosh10]

Ranking of countries by number of military and paramilitary personnel

State - Active Military - Reserve Military - Paramilitary - Total

People's Republic of China - 2,285,000 - 800,000 - 3,969,000 - 7,054,000

United States of America - 1,458,219 - 1,458,500 - 11,035 - 2,927,754

India - 1,325,000 - 1,155,000 - 2,288,407 - 4,768,407

Vietnam - 482,000 - 5,000,000 - 40,000 - 5,522,000 :ranger:

Russian Federation - 766,000 - 2,035,000 - 449,000 - 3,250,000

Pakistan - 617,000 - 513,000 - 304,000 - 1,434,000

Iran - 523,000 - 1,800,000 - 1,510,000 - 3,833,000

//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_military_and_parami litary_personnel

Military Strength Based on Man Power

India may need to double its Military Man Power to upto 10mil+ within few years

@Ray

sir, we are moving towards a very uncertain world environment, enemy countries, mainly Pakistan+Bangladesh, are finding the people from India within to use them against the nation, India. who are also having a certain level of support from UK/US/Commonwealth nations too. while Azmal Kasab type people coming from Pakistan+Bangladesh, as 'Indian' Muzahidin with Hindu type red stings on hands, has also been a serious threat imposed on India the nation, on its people/society. and i find Bangladeshi infiltrators as the most serious threat imposed on this country, backed by UK and its friendly countries, the certain reason why we find IM growing in the North East region now. Pakistani Muslims in Sikh turbans in Canada/UK has also been a news for us.....

India may now need to double its Military Man Power within the next few years. and it would be done in the way,

1st; just increase the Active Military Personnel by 50%, 500,000+, from the most competent ones of Reserve force itself, considering an Officer ranked person may handle 50 troops in place of 35-40, if required. if Indian Army may not find many officer ranked personnel from the reserve military personnel itself....

2nd; increase the Paramilitary Military troop to 3.0mil+ within the next 3-6 months by inducting from the Reserve Troops itself. and it may be done in such a way, just increase upto 50% to upto double the numbers anywhere they are employed, which will itself help the new inductees have training etc, until they receive any new order......

3rd; and have an aim of at least 5.0million+ Reserve Military troops by 2017, say.

and if we have a look on Vietnam, population around 100million with 5.0mil+ troops in service, while India's youth population only would be at least 250million+, if we consider the age range from 16 years to upto 27 years of age, considering urgency of so troubling external world, and we may require to induct upto 5.0mil new military personnel, around 1.5%+ of them only, within the next 2-3 years.....

and the overall goal would be to just double the Active Military to 2.5mil+ by 2017, Paramilitary forces to at least 4.0mil+ by 2017, with at least around 4.0 military in reserve.... with the first step to increase the active and paramilitary troops by upto 50%+ within the next 3-6 months from the Reserve military personnel itself, as an urgency :thumb:

by the next 2-3 years, we will have the new age people entering in the Youth Population of the age 16-17 years. while Im mainly concerned to target the age ranger of 18-27 by the 2-3 years, the most competent/physically fit youth to be inducted in number upto 5.0mil by 2017, hopefully.

 

[prohumanity]

How stupid is this concept..who spends more dollars on weapons....iI think this is absurd way of comparing....the real test of strenghth becomes clear in the war when a courageous , patriotic force willing to die for their motherland beats the s*hit out out of enemy whose soldiers join military to pay off their education loans. They want you to believe that if you spend more dollars you will be stronger....by doing that they can succeed in selling their overprice, weapons to you.... You don't need those toys ..you already have enough toys and only need strong will to counterattack the enemy by taking the risks and using all your nukes, bios, chemical and conventional weapons. People with all skin color have the same fear of death like you have and once they understand you will counterattack...they will shit in their pants and say "If you can't beat them..join them" So , do not fear those empty threat of sophisticated weapons...bravery and current weapons are enough if you have the will to use them. If you rain your Prithvis, Agniis and other weapons..is their any power in this world who can dare to suppress you...NO !

 

[sgarg]

If need ever arose this training can be offered in last year of school.

I think the need has come. The genie is already out of the bottle but India is not ready.
Time to increase military manpower massively.

 

[asianobserve]

How stupid is this concept..who spends more dollars on weapons....iI think this is absurd way of comparing....the real test of strenghth becomes clear in the war when a courageous , patriotic force willing to die for their motherland beats the s*hit out out of enemy whose soldiers join military to pay off their education loans. They want you to believe that if you spend more dollars you will be stronger....by doing that they can succeed in selling their overprice, weapons to you.... You don't need those toys ..you already have enough toys and only need strong will to counterattack the enemy by taking the risks and using all your nukes, bios, chemical and conventional weapons. People with all skin color have the same fear of death like you have and once they understand you will counterattack...they will shit in their pants and say "If you can't beat them..join them" So , do not fear those empty threat of sophisticated weapons...bravery and current weapons are enough if you have the will to use them. If you rain your Prithvis, Agniis and other weapons..is their any power in this world who can dare to suppress you...NO !

I know now which is the most powerful military force in the World, the North Korean military. I have no doubt whatsoever that the North Koreans will die (more than once if they can) for North Korea and their Dear leader. You cannot be more patriotic and courageous than them.

So do you agree that the North Korean military is the strongest force in the World?

 

[Ray]

Strength i.e. numbers do not matter.

It is having the right man machine mix to address the Threat Perceptions that matters.

 

[prohumanity]

North Korea is a small country but due to their determination, weapons and desire to protect their country...even NATO has not dared to attack them...that's the point I am trying to make.They were under sanctions for decades...on food embargo and diplomatic isolation...they managed to survive and even thrive and no power has attempted to attack them militarily. If attacked by west and say, they send a few nuclear missiles on Seol, Manila, Bangkok and Tokyo ..the game is over. Wasn't the game over quickly...when US dropped two nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki ? A combination of good weapons along with courage to die is needed to defend your country these days.
By the way, numbers also can matter...If a huge country of over a billion people attacked and only say..1% of them decide to become suicide bombers...that comes out 10 million radicals with bombs strapped on waist to revenge for the attack...guess how much damage they can cause to enemy. ISIS is only a few thousand and still is such a pain. 10 million radicals with desire to take revenge ..also equipped with cyber tech knowledge can blow the enemies entire banking, financial and military system computers within a few days. I say one should not create too many enemies by being too arrogant. Live and let live is still a damn good policy. (Gandhi said) I believe each nation needs to use policy of "mutual respect and peaceful co-existence"

 

[asianobserve]

Strength i.e. numbers do not matter.

It is having the right man machine mix to address the Threat Perceptions that matters.

More crucially, training and the most experience in actual combat.

 

[asianobserve]

North Korea is a small country but due to their determination, weapons and desire to protect their country...even NATO has not dared to attack them...that's the point I am trying to make.They were under sanctions for decades...on food embargo and diplomatic isolation...they managed to survive and even thrive and no power has attempted to attack them militarily. If attacked by west and say, they send a few nuclear missiles on Seol, Manila, Bangkok and Tokyo ..the game is over. Wasn't the game over quickly...when US dropped two nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki ? A combination of good weapons along with courage to die is needed to defend your country these days.
By the way, numbers also can matter...If a huge country of over a billion people attacked and only say..1% of them decide to become suicide bombers...that comes out 10 million radicals with bombs strapped on waist to revenge for the attack...guess how much damage they can cause to enemy. ISIS is only a few thousand and still is such a pain. 10 million radicals with desire to take revenge ..also equipped with cyber tech knowledge can blow the enemies entire banking, financial and military system computers within a few days. I say one should not create too many enemies by being too arrogant. Live and let live is still a damn good policy. (Gandhi said) I believe each nation needs to use policy of "mutual respect and peaceful co-existence"

So is the North Korea military the most powerful military military in the World accoridng to your criteria? Their soldiers are certainly the most fanatical in defending their motherland...