World Bank funding for cleaning Ganga

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    After years of efforts and Millions of Dollars spend on cleaning Ganga River, World Bank is now offering US$ 1 Billion in new funding to clean up the river.

    One of the first efforts were made during the time of Rajiv Gandhi when the French had agreed to help India during the Festival of India show at Paris. Ganga Action Plan. After nearly 20 years and more than Rs 900 Crores spent, Ganga remains one of the most polluted rivers in the world.

    The whole approach has to be changed and strict timelines have to be adhered to to achieve the desired results. IMO endemic corruption has been the main reason for the project not being able to achieve any success.

    World Bank loans India $1bn for Ganges river clean up

     
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  3. Vladimir79

    Vladimir79 Defence Professionals Defence Professionals

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    It really is a hard project to carry out. With 1 billion people wanting to bathe there and allowing holy cows to bless the river with their excrimant, nothing will change. Industrial pollution will be easier to curb than changing the whole identity of the Hindu religion.
     
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    Gang at the most touches 400 million people and not more than that. That too not everybody gets a chance to take bath in it on a regular basis.

    The main sources of contaminations are untreated sewage dumped by cities near the river, pesticide runoffs from the agricultural fields and industrial waste dumped directly in the river. what is required is that untreated sewage and industrial effluents are not allowed in the river. this will solve IMO about 80% of the problem.
     
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    I strongly suspect another ploy this time to loot the World Bank.

    Over 900 crores of our tax money had been looted already.

    The CAG audit in 2000 had implicated the Bihar, UP and West Bengal governments for mismanagement of funds -

    The Central and the participating State Governments released a total sum of Rs 655.23 crore to the implementing agencies during the period covered by audit, i.e. from 1993 to 2000. As of March 2000, the States reported utilisation of Rs 587.63 crore, which consisted of Rs 118.60 crore on the GAP-I and Rs 469.03 crore on the GAP-II. The utilisation of funds must be viewed, however, with reference to audit comments in the following paragraphs, which highlight, in the test checked cases alone, financial mismanagement, especially funds diversion to unauthorised activities (Rs 36.07 crore), incorrect reporting (Rs 6.75 crore), and parking of funds by the BRJP in its own personal account (Rs 1.17 crore), and unutilised funds with the implementing agencies (Rs 72.62 crore).

    (a) Diversion/misuse of funds: The implementing agencies in Uttar Pradesh, Bihar and West Bengal diverted Rs 36.07 crore on establishment, operation and maintenance of plants, construction of circle office, purchase of vehicle, computer, xerox machine, custom duty, supervision charges on low cost sanitation etc., which were not covered under the programme and construction of STPs, not affecting the water quality of river Ganga (Annex VII).

    (b) Inflated reporting of expenditure: The implementing agencies in Haryana and Uttar Pradesh charged excess centages on works to the extent of Rs 4.12 crore and 2.63 crore respectively, which resulted in excess reporting of expenditure of Rs 6.75 crore on the GAP.

    (c) Parking of funds: The Managing Director, BRJP deposited the GAP funds during 1995-96 to 1997-98 totalling Rs 1.17 crore in their general operating account, which unauthorisedly cushioned ways and means position of BRJP, to the detriment of application of needed funds on the GAP schemes.

    (d) Loss of interest: The implementing agencies in Bihar, West Bengal and Delhi incurred loss of interest of Rs 2.55 crore by not investing the unspent balances in interest bearing accounts (Annex-VIII).

    (e) Besides, the implementing agencies in Bihar and West Bengal did not report to the NRCD the interest of Rs 25 lakh and Rs 66.40 lakh respectively earned on the GAP funds despite pointing out in the previous Audit Report.

    (f) Unutilised balances: Unutilised balance of Rs. 67.90 crore, Rs. 0.41 crore and Rs. 4.31 crore were lying with the implementing agencies in Uttar Pradesh, Delhi and Bihar respectively as on March 2000. This was due to slow progress of works and release of funds by the Government of India/the State Governments, without proper assessment of requirements.


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    As usual our beloved politicians and beaurucrates will enjoy world bank money. world bank consists of bunch of fools or corrupt people.after so many year they didt see ganga will not be cleaned due to reasons given above.Still they give money to fill there own pockets.
     
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    This money is a loan and not a grant, and if my memory serves me right then the money will be distributed in stages, after satisfying the World Bank appointed experts.

    However this still leaves scope for at least 50% of the money to be siphoned off by our greart leaders.
     
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    Whether it is a loan or not, money is money.:D

    An investigation was carried out in 2006-07 and serious fraud was found out in India projects funded by World Bank

    Just an excerpt -

    The World Bank has said it has uncovered "serious incidents of fraud and corruption" in a review of five health projects it has backed in India.
    The multi-million dollar projects, some of which date back to 1997, involve HIV/Aids, malaria and tuberculosis.
    "The probe has revealed unacceptable indicators of fraud and corruption, said World Bank head Robert Zoellick.
    India's government said it took the findings seriously and would punish anyone found guilty of wrongdoing. - lol a good joke
    The evidence of fraud was revealed in a newly released Detailed Implementation Review, begun by the World Bank in 2006.
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    Indian government is still capable of getting the World Bank pledge billions. Appreciate their negotiating skills:twizt:

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    World Bank's Detailed Implementation Review
     
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    Ganga can never be cleaned as long as they dump the deadbodies there.

    We are fools, and have stupid rituals.
     
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    The main cause of the polluiton is not due to the dead bodies. If the pollution was not there then the fishes would have stripped the bodies clean in a short time like they have been doing for hundreds of years.
     
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    Between thee Ganga and Yamuna rivers tthe Govt. has spent more than 1800 Crore Rs. in the last 2 decades but yet there has been no improvement or rather there has been deterioation in the conditions of the river.

    Even the Environment Ministry has been forced to admit this shortcoming.


    Ganga, Yamuna no cleaner than 20 years ago: Ramesh

     
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    volunteers clean up Yamuna

    To jolt the Govt. into action to clean the Yamuna, on Saturday thousands of Volunteers including students from schools joined in an effort to clean the Yamuna. This was a symbolic gesture but they were still able to remove a few truckloads of muck from the river.

    Thousands of volunteers pitch in to clean Yamuna

     

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