Won't assist Pak PM in prayers at dargah: Ajmer Sharif head!!!

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  1. bhramos

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    NEW DELHI: Ajmer Sharif spiritual head has said that he will not assist Pakistan Prime Minister Raja Pervez Ashraf in offering prayers at the Sufi shrine of Khwaja Moinuddin Chishti.

    "It will be a dishonor to the families of the Indian soldiers who were beheaded by Pak army," Ajmer Sharif dargah dewan Zainul Abedin Ali Khan said.

    "I have no idea why he (Pakistan PM) is coming here," Ajmer Sharif dargah dewan said.

    Pakistan PM Raja Pervez Ashraf is scheduled to undertake a private visit to the Sufi shrine of Khwaja Moinuddin Chishti at Ajmer on Saturday. He will not visit New Delhi, an official said on Thursday.

    Raja Pervez Ashraf will be hosted for lunch by external affairs minister Salman Khurshid at the Hotel Rambag Palace in Ajmer on that day. "No substantive talks are scheduled" between the two sides, the external affairs spokesperson Syed Akbaruddin said at a news briefing.

    The external affairs ministry is facilitating the day-long private visit of the Pakistan prime minister, he said.

    Ashraf will be accompanied by members of his family and will arrive at Jaipur on March 9 morning and depart for Ajmer.

    After completing his prayers, he will depart for Jaipur and take a special flight back to Islamabad that evening, the spokesperson said.

    "He expressed a wish to visit Ajmer and we have abided by that desire. He will be extended due courtesies in accordance with diplomatic norms. All requirements that meet his needs are being met," he added.

    The visit comes around two months after ceasefire violations on the Line of Control that led to heightened tensions between the two neighbours.

    Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari had visited the 13th century shrine on April 8 last year.

    Zardari had landed in Delhi and driven straight for a luncheon meeting with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and several other leaders. He had then flown to Jaipur and taken a chopper to Ajmer, where he spent around 20 minutes and offered flowers and chadar at the shrine.

    He had been accompanied by his son Bilawal Bhutto Zardari and had also donated $1 million to the shrine.

    Won't assist Pak PM in prayers at dargah: Ajmer Sharif head - The Times of India
     
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  3. Daredevil

    Daredevil On Vacation! Administrator

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    Ouch!! That must hurt honor & dignity of Pakistan and Pak PM.
     
  4. Sam2012

    Sam2012 Tihar Jail Banned

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    Good move proud to be a Indian :thumb:
     
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    whereas kurshid is going to enjoy lunch with him,contracditive characters
     
  6. SilentKiller

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    Great Step!!....
    If govt is bound by international procedures then these brave steps by individuals are always good.
     
  7. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    I heard him on TV.

    He was wearing a saffron dress and speaking Hindi and not Urdu or Hindustani.

    It appears that Indians are tiring of Pakistan's shenanigans in the name of religion!

    He seems to have a greater nationalist fervour than those who are hosting the Pak PM.

    I heard Khurshed also.

    He said that no official discussion will be taking place - that is what I understood.

    He said he was given the Pak PM some chow instead!
     
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    Good step by Zainul.
     
  9. bhramos

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    No point in boycotting this, from the Dargah a message of peace goes out :Ajmer Dargah's Khadim Syed Qutubuddin Sakhi on Pak PM's visit


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    Syed Zainul Abedin Ali Khan, Dargah Diwan tells @HeadlinesToday Pak is an Islamic country but Muslims are not safe in Pak
     
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    Paki nutjobs OWNED by Indian Muslims ! :taunt:

    They should boycott Ajmer Dargah :lol:

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    So Paki PM will be treated with a lunch hosted by Salman Khurshid?

    They murder our soldiers on our own soil & citizens are made to pay for their PM's Tandoori Biryani ?

    Why the f*** we are made to pay bills of uncivilized animals?

    I don't get what is genetically wrong with Indian leaders? From Agra Summit till today, everything is wrong with them!

    RTI should be launched to figure out who is paying the bills of supposedly 'private visit'.

    I see, so our national resources are so damn cheap that we spend it on hosting private visits of enemies.
     
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    proud of him, better than our politician
     
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    Proud of you sir..

    I was just going through our neighbor's defence forum .peekay and i found out the comments of Indians in the thread "ttp-video-shows-beheading-soldiers" calling the Pakistani soldiers as brave and proud and termed TTP as animals.
    Well let me remind them if they've forgotten that those "brave & proud" Pakistani soldiers did the same to our soldiers and they should equally deserve to be labelled as animals as the TTP does.

    When this man can stand up for our soldiers, i expect those Indian Netizens too show some resolve instead of sucking up to those pathetic bunch of people.
     
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    Good news, my salute to Diwan Zainul Abedin Ali Khan.
     
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    Lawyers, market association join protest against Pak PM's Ajmer Sharif visit

    AJMER: Local lawyers and the Ajmer Dargah market association on Saturday joined the protest against the visit of Pakistan Prime Minister Raja Pervez Ashraf in view of the recent brutal killing and beheading of Indian soldiers by Pakistani army.

    The move comes a day after the Ajmer Sharif spiritual head said he will boycott the visit of the Pakistan Prime Minister.

    "Due to security reasons, the market remains shut during the visit of VVIPs but this time we are closing the shops voluntarily well before the time set by the district administration," Jodha Tekchandani, Dargah Market Association President, said.

    "This is to register our protest against the visit of the Pakistan Prime Minister," he said.

    Ajmer Sharif dargah diwan Zainul Abedin Ali Khan had on Friday said he will boycott the visit in protest against the recent brutal killing and beheading of Indian soldiers by the Pakistani army.

    A representative of Ajmer Bar Association, Rajesh Tandon, said that roads from where Ashraf's cavalcade will pass will be washed by water after his departure because his passage will make the land "unholy".

    "External affairs minister Salman Khurshid is hosting a lunch for Ashraf, which is shameful. He should have not been given such a welcome. This is insult to the sentiments of Indians and the families of martyrs," he said.

    Khan said the boycott is against the killing of Indian soldiers by Pakistan army.

    "Pakistan hurt our sentiments and did not initiate any action against its guilty personnel despite India's protest.

    "At a time when tension is heightened between both the nations, and that too because of Pakistan, it is a widespread sentiment that Pakistan should tender an apology to government of India, our Army, families of martyrs and all the citizens before coming to Ziyarat," he said.

    "There is no apology and no action then how can we tolerate the presence of Pakistan's Prime Minister here? I stand by citizens of the country as well as the families of the martyrs and demand that Pakistan should return the head of the slain soldier with full honour to the Government of India before making any trip," he said.

    Traditionally the dargah deewan, a descendant of the sufi saint Khawaja Moinuddin Chisti, remain present to welcome when nation head visits the shrine.

    However, the Khadim (priest) community is all set to welcome the delegation and said the protest by the dargah deewan will not affect the ceremonies performed during the visit.

    "Deewan has no interference in the Ziyarat or any other religious ceremony which are performed when a nation head visits so his boycott will not have zero impact. The holy shrine is open for all and the visit should not be opposed," Bilal Chisti, a Khadim who will perform Ziyarat for Ashraf, said.

    Another Khadim Zulfeqar Chisty said that the visit should not be politicised.

    "People irrespective of caste, creed and region come to the Dargah. This is a religious matter and should not be politicised," he said.

    The Pakistan Prime Minister will be received at the main gate by the representatives of Khadims' Anjuman committee and government's body dargah committee at the Nizam gate amid beating of drums.

    Elaborate security arrangements are in place for the visit with over 1000 police personnel deployed to guard the entire area from the helipad to the Dargarh.

    The Pakistani delegation comprising relatives and embassy officials will arrive by helicopters from Jaipur at Ghughara helipad on the outskirts of the city at 3.35pm and thereafter they will proceed to the Dargah by road.

    "A 28-member delegation including 19 relatives of the Pakistan PM and other officials will go to Dargah," divisional commissioner Kiran Soni Gupta said.

    "Elaborate security arrangements are in place for the visit. The dargah premises will be vacated after afternoon prayer. None will be allowed to stay inside the premises except pass holders," an official of the district administration said.

    Shortly after his arrival in Jaipur, Ashraf will be hosted to a lunch by Khurshid.

    Lawyers, market association join protest against Pak PM's Ajmer Sharif visit - The Times of India
     
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  17. panduranghari

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    I believe there is a rift between the Diwan and the Khadims.

    There are always problems in cash rich religious places.
     
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    At Ajmer Sharif dargah, Pakistan PM gets Mughal-era salutation - Hindustan Times

    When Pakistan Prime Minister Raja Pervez Ashraf stepped into Ajmer Sharif on Saturday, he witnessed a spectacle of rituals which hasn't changed much since the days of Mughal emperor Akbar, who had come here wishing for a son.

    A pair of 16th-century drums placed atop the shrine's ramparts, known as "shaaziyane nakkare", was sounded as part of a Mughal-era salutation reserved for heads of states and royalty. "I had the good fortune of kissing the holy shrine. I wish peace for the world and progress for Pakistan and well-being of my family," Ashraf wrote in the visitor's book.
    The shrine's management buried protests from a member - over the beheading of Indian soldiers by Pakistan army - to warmly welcome the Pakistani premier, his wife Nusrat Ashraf and their close family. A group of "khadims", as the shrine's caretakers are known, ushered the guests into a world of olden solemnities.

    Among them, 53-year-old Sufi priest, Bilal Chisti, stood out as the Pakistani PM's "family representative" at the shrine. The Pakistani premier, a Sufi follower, had hosted Chisti in August last year, when he had led an Indian Sufi delegation to Pakistan's Sufi shrine, Baba Farid. By all accounts, it was a deeply spiritual affair for Ashraf. Chisti, the priest, told HT: "Anyone who comes here becomes a Sufi. I told the PM that Sufis should work for peace." As sought by the Pakistani visitors, a special "ziyarat" (supplication of prayers) was made. Ashraf completed all customary rituals, which includes presenting a 42-metre-long chadar.
     
  20. sayareakd

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    Proud of you, i didnt expect this from religious guy, only if our politicians are like you this would have been better country.
     
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    GoI should give him a seat of power in the dargah.
     

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