With China looking on, India to host Vietnamese, Myanmarese leaders

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  1. LETHALFORCE

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    With China looking on, India to host Vietnamese, Myanmarese leaders | TwoCircles.net

    New Delhi : India is set to give a major impetus to its Look East policy when it hosts the leaders of Vietnam and Myanmar this week amid their straining ties with China.

    Vietnam President Truong Tan Sang comes here on a three-day visit starting Tuesday, followed by Myanmar's President U. Thein Sein the next day.

    The two leaders come here ahead of the 18-nation East Asia Summit in Bali next month. India is becoming an increasingly important player in ongoing efforts to evolve an inclusive regional architecture in Asia.

    Scaling up economic, energy and strategic ties with the these Southeast Asian countries is high on New Delhi's agenda as more countries in the region look to it to balance what is widely seen as China's increased assertiveness in the region.

    Both countries are experiencing strains in their ties with China.

    Myanmar has cancelled a Chinese dam project on environmental grounds, and Vietnam, Southeast Asia's fastest-growing economy, is engaged in shadow boxing over competing claims over South China Sea.

    Significantly, the Vietnamese president comes here weeks after External Affairs Minister S.M. Krishna's visit to Hanoi last month that saw India's state-owned ONGC Videsh sealing pacts for oil exploration in offshore blocks off the South China Sea.

    Beijing, which claims full sovereignty over the entire South China Sea, has objected to the oil deals in the disputed territory. India has defended the move, saying its cooperation with Vietnam in accordance with international laws and underlined the need for freedom of navigation in South China Sea.

    Ahead of his visit, President Truong defended Hanoi's deal with New Delhi, saying foreign companies were welcome to work in oil and gas projects in the continental shelf and exclusive economic zone of Vietnam. Underlining the growing strategic partnership with India, he stressed that these investments were in conformity with Vietnamese laws.

    The intensification of defence cooperation will also be be high on the agenda.

    There is also speculation about Vietnam's keenness to get small nuclear reactors from India.

    India is interested in selling the BrahMos supersonic cruise missile, an Indo-Russian joint venture, to Vietnam. New Delhi has already been assisting Hanoi in bolstering its naval and air capabilities. Vietnam has allowed India access to the Nha Trang port, which is situated close to the strategic Cam Ranh Bay.

    Besides closer cooperation in areas like capacity building and training, the two countries are also expected to energise their economic ties.

    Bilateral trade is estimated to be over $2 billion. India and Vietnam signed an agreement in 2003 that envisaged the creation of an "Arc of Advantage and Prosperity" in Southeast Asia. They will also explore expanding investment opportunities in areas like energy, steel, and pharmaceutical sectors.

    China will also be a looming shadow when the energy-rich Myanmar's president holds talks with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh later this week. He would also be going to Gaya and Sarnath, important stops on the Buddhist pilgrimage circuit.

    "India attaches great importance to its relations with neighbouring Myanmar. The visit of the president, soon after his election earlier this year, would further consolidate the multi-faceted bilateral relations," India said in a statement Monday.
     
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  3. agentperry

    agentperry Senior Member Senior Member

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    i like this game you know what this is called??????



    turning of table.....
     
  4. Adux

    Adux Senior Member Senior Member

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    India has grown a spine? Really?
     
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    Key highlights :bounce:

    Really need those Brahmos in Vietnam's kitty :lever:

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    Cant believe, indeed. Last month was surprising.
     
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    India courts Myanmar, Vietnam amid China tension

    Oct 10 (Reuters) - India hosts the leaders of Myanmar and Vietnam this week, giving New Delhi the opportunity to forge closer economic and security ties with two countries encountering testy relations with India's giant regional rival, China.

    Hungry for reclusive Myanmar's natural gas reserves, timber and farm exports to feed its rapidly expanding economy, India wants to ramp up its engagement with a neighbour traditionally seen as lying within Beijing's sphere of influence.

    To that end, officials in India are closely watching steps by Myanmar's fledging civilian government to introduce democratic and economic reforms after years of rule by a military dictatorship allied to and funded by China.

    One of the first countries to condemn Myanmar for repression of a 1988 pro-democracy uprising, India has since the early 1990s put aside such criticism for fear of pushing its neighbour into China's fold and losing access to resources.

    Despite criticism from activists, Myanmar's junta leader visited India last year.

    President Thein Sein will visit India from Oct. 12 to 15. His government is looking to douse a row with Beijing about the suspension of a dam built and financed by Chinese firms to help plug China's bulging electricity needs, potentially opening a door to closer ties to India.

    For Myanmar, under sanctions by Western countries for its human rights record, China is its most important ally, but the two have deep suspicions. China's growing economic role in Myanmar, which is also known as Burma, has caused considerable popular resentment, while China fears Myanmar's civilian government could move closer to the United States.

    "It is in both India and America's interests for Burma to be able to wean itself off dependence on China," said Maung Zarni, a Myanmar expert at the London School of Economics.

    "We are being penetrated by China, commercially, demographically, geo-strategically. India is a major loser in this battle but ultimately the biggest loss will be born by the Burmese public," he said.

    India will also host Vietnam's President Truong Tan Sang for three days starting on Tuesday, offering New Delhi scope to deepen trade and defence ties that came under scrutiny after a mysterious navy incident on the South China Sea in July.

    China has looked on with a wary eye as ties between India and Vietnam blossomed. A joint oil and gas exploration project between state-owned firms in disputed islands on the South China Sea has raised hackles in Beijing, and was slammed as a violation of Chinese sovereignty by China's state media.

    Reports of a standoff between an Indian vessel sailing away from a Vietnamese port and the Chinese navy also stoked fears the two giants may be on a collision course for resources, although both sides subsequently played down the incident.

    With its major economic partners the United States and Europe facing financial turmoil, India wants to foster commercial partnerships with other emerging markets, including a big trade deal with the Southeast Asian bloc, ASEAN, that includes both Vietnam and Myanmar.

    On a September visit by a Myanmar trade delegation to New Delhi, the two sides pledged to double trade within four years.

    "It's tempting to see everything through the prism of the India-China rivalry, whereas there's a lot more happening in our relationships with these two countries and quite frankly there's a lot more happening in our relationship with China too," said Siddharth Varadarajan, editor of the Hindu newspaper and a foreign-policy expert.
     
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    This pleases me.
     
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    My kind of response. I hope they stay on this course and reach out other nations under the spell of CCP thugs. If this continues 2012 will be the year to watch in Indo-China relationship. I would like to hear from fellow members as to what they see in future. GAZE INTO YOUR CRYSTAL BALL AND LET US HEAR ABOUT THE FUTURE TREND ON INDO-CHINA RELATIONSHIP.
     
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    what this, iran, ME, SE-asia, nepal, b'desh, 'a'stan are really showing is a lot of effort being put in on the foreign policy front.

    i am seriously yet to see as productive a foreign policy like this for a long time now, which shows with increasing economic clout we have started to define our interest areas outside and are working more overtly on them, if it ruffles a few feathers, so be it. people talk about NDA, UPA-II like this stands to better that by quite a margin.

    if this is an indication of things to come, be sure of india being keen on playing a more dominant role in another decades time irrespective of what the US and china have to say about it, way to go, i might add.

    UPA-I was about pleasing china, but china seemed to have read in a little bit too much into that as a sign of indian weakness.

    WTF is calling the shots man? whoever it is, the person is doing some fine job!

    you bet foreign policy to be the real knight in shining armour of UPA-II, though for now that might be the only one and might go unchallenged. wake up on other fronts as well, economic reforms for one!
     
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    The scenario is changing.

    The above is what China has been upto.

    That apart China is flexing her muscles in the South China Sea.

    All this will have repercussions once the US' drawdown in Afghanistan.

    Therefore, it is necessary to impede China's rush into areas where Angels Dread to Thread by diverting her attention!

    The importance of Afghanistan

    and

    Is there a US nudge somewhere?
     
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  11. Yusuf

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    I really dont know if the powers to be in India are actually working this hard or are things just falling into place.
    Whatever it is, its good.I think the countries in the IOR realize that India is the country where their long term interest lies and they just want to get sucked up by the dragon whose only wish is to gobble up their resources without much in return. India too is a victim of that but thats because of unscrupulous politicians who sold raw material like iron ore.

    Myanmar may share a border with China but its the ocean that matters and that faces India. Its better for them to have good relations with India and trade with India. India is a huge enough market for their natural resources. With China's growing tensions with its other neighbors, Myanmar will be wary of China as they never know when China will pick on it particularly if any border area is rich with resources. India lost precious years in trying to play the good boy and not dealing with the dictator. Now that the dictator there is willing to let bygones be bygones and develop relations with India, we should wholeheartedly do business with them.

    We should off course lend an ear to the democracy movement there and "encourage" greater democracy, but then it should not come in the way of doing business with them. in fact having cordial ties with the military in Myanmar can help India play a mediator between the two sides.

    As far as vietnam is concerned, the relations are on an up swing. What India should be careful about is not looking at its relations with Vietnam only through the prism of China. We should have good overall relations with that country including military, economic and cultural.
     
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    [h=1]Manmohan holds talks with Thein Sein[/h][​IMG]


    More @ The Hindu : News / National : Manmohan holds talks with Thein Sein
     
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    I will call this first major milestone in Look East Policy.

    Myanmar recently cancelled Chinese dam project on environmental ground. We've embraced a very careful & well organized approach. It'll great to see it bearing even more fruits in future.
     
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    Today we have announced 500 million dollars for Myanmar And two new agreements

    Looks like we have one more new friend Now Chinese will get even more upset
     
  15. LETHALFORCE

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    Chinese try to build relations mostly from a military angle. These kind of relations don't last.
     
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    its not over environmental effect its because local ethnic group and tribes objected to it and held rallies and demonstrations too.
     
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    Well that what documented ground behind rejecting project. Who knows what was the real reason?
     
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    this thing was also reported means what im saying was also reported in the media. there are 19 ethnic minorities who wants to get away from mainland burma. making them unhappy at the cost of china and then in future fighting them by taking china's help is no good option. so they choose the righ way of throwing china out of the loop
     
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    big steps taken, all in all 800 million USD

    India unveils $500 mn for Myanmar, to expand security ties

     
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    With China looking on, India to host Vietnamese, Myanmarese leaders

    Ummm, no, PRC ain't looking on no more, if the report below is to be believed!

     
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    NDA ..ah dont under-estimate them...two of the most defining partnerships - with USA and Israel - were normalized and taken forward only during the NDA .

    ...Not to mention the tons of foreign policy blunders by the UPA.....

    Having said that IF they go ahead with this and refuse to back down to chinese threat then credit must be given where it is due.
     

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