Will 'Chindia' rule the world in 2050, or America after all?

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    Will 'Chindia' rule the world in 2050, or America after all?

    By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, International Business Editor
    10:05AM GMT 28 Feb 2011
    Telegraph UK

    Source: Will 'Chindia' rule the world in 2050, or America after all? - Telegraph
     
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    I think it's pointless to make predictions so far down the line. We cannot even predict what will happen in the next 10 years, let alone in the next 40.

    I wonder how many people in 1865 predicted that Japan would defeat the Russian Empire within 40 years, or how many people in 1920 predicted that Britain and other European countries would lose most of their colonial possessions within 40 years, or how many people in 1950 predicted that the Soviet Union would collapse within 40 years. History has a habit of throwing surprises.
     
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    Exactly. This commentator agrees with you, and provides an interesting perspective:

     
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    Another informative comment:

     
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    Counterpoint (context starts from paragraph 3):

     
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    Encouraging comment:

     
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    Looking through the comments on the article, it seems that most people don't think India will become a world power even by 2050, and that people seem highly concerned (indeed, terrified) of China as well as "Islam", even though "Islam" is not exactly a coherent entity.
     
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    :laugh::rofl::laugh::rofl::laugh:
     
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    Thank you for reading the comments. They are indeed very enlightening. Not all commentators are hicks there. I am to understand that many commentators are actually people who understand economics, and are either stock brokers, accountants, and other related job-holders.

    Mighty interesting.
     
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    Another 'prophecy,' albeit, a reasonable one:

     
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    India will surpass china in 2050.
     
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    What's the guarantee that India or China will even exist in 2050 in their present forms ?
     
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    india will surpass china much before. china's economic model of stealing from public savings and investing them into non productive steal bridges and buildings is going to come to a halt. no wonder people in china are still poor, because wealth belongs to the CPC which gives pethatic low interest to its citizen and rob them of there due share. there is no such thing as chindia , it's only india and that's just it.
     
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    A large section of muslims have adopted Islam as their de facto socio-economic politico-religious identity, this is causing severe conflict between them and others.
     
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    This is true. But it remains to be seen if this resurgent Islamic identity can overcome regionalism and nationalism as well as internal sectarian divisions. The Islamic world is currently far from being monolithic.
     
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    In addition there are other issues at hand :

    1. Rise of mullahs in Islam : Estalibshment in the Islamic countries has used mullahs to legitimize and cement their rule. The democratic countries unfortunately too show patronage to the mullahs/religious elite instead of the muslim intellectualism. Even in India, political parties heed to the wishes of the muslim clerics and not to those of the muslim elite, intellectuals, middle class etc.
    This strengthens the clerics, and literally pushes them into the leadership role of the community.

    2. Pressure on secularism : Adoption of an Islamic identity as stated earlier is causing fissures in the secular tolerant fabric of the society. And those adopting far-right ideology to counter Islamism are actually scoring a self-goal and are a part of the feedback cycle.

    Possible Solutions :
    1. Limit religious freedom to personal domain and cultural autonomy and preservation. Don't allow religious conventions to invade one's political, economic life.
    2. Encourage intelligentsia to assume leadership, and force mullahs out. Help forge a secular political identity whilst retaining religious beliefs (if such a thing can exist?)
     
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    You are having a rather lousy trackrecord so far. WHen the commies took over , India had a bigger GDP than China. Now China is four times bigger. Not to mention higher growth and lower inflation in China compared to India.

    Everything is possible in 40 years. However you have alot to prove before that.

    The "non productive" infrastructure among others. :rofl:
     

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