Will China sell S-300 copy to Pakistan

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  1. LETHALFORCE

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    Will China Sell New Long-Range Surface-to-Air Missiles to Pakistan?


    Islamabad is expecting Beijing to finalize a proposal for the possible sale of Chinese surface-to-air missiles.



    Pakistan is ready to make a decision over the procurement of new Chinese air defense systems once it receives a complete sales proposal, Pakistan’s Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif said during a high-level meeting with senior Chinese officials last Friday in Islamabad, according to a press release issued by the Pakistani Prime Minister’s Office.

    “The Prime Minister said that the decision for induction of Air Defense System in Pakistan by CPMIEC would be finalized after receipt of complete proposal from the Chinese side. The Prime Minister noted with satisfaction the pace of existing joint collaborative mechanism between Ministry of Defense Production and CPMIEC in other fields of mutual interest,” the statement notes.

    The Chinese delegation included the deputy head of the China Aerospace Science and Industry Corporation (CASIC), Wei Yiyin, and the chairman of the China Precision Machinery Import and Export Corporation (CPMIEC), Zhao Xiaolong, along with a number of other senior government officials. The Chinese delegation was in Pakistan to discuss deepening defense industrial ties between the two countries.

    The press release does not offer any details over the air defense system under consideration. However, Pakistani analysts believe that it could be a reference to a long-anticipated acquisition of a new long-range surface-to-air missile (SAM) system.

    According to an analyst for the Quwa Defense News & Analysis Group, “it is (…) possible that the long-awaited push for a long-range SAM system is finally underway.” The long-range SAM system in question is in all likelihood an export variant of the HQ-9 medium-to-long-range SAM, dubbed FT-2000, and developed by CPMIEC.

    China and Pakistan have held talks over the procurement of FT-2000 SAMs since the early 2000s, without ever concluding a deal. Pakistan did finally place an order for medium-range HQ-16 (Hongqi-16) SAM systems in 2014, but still failed to make a decision over the HQ-9.

    “Pakistan could be inviting a proposal in regards to expanding its medium-range coverage via the HQ-16. But given that the proposal was noted by the Prime Minister, the idea of it being in regards to the HQ-9 or FT-2000 should not be ruled out,” the Quwa analysis concludes.

    The HQ-9 is a derivative of the Russian-made S-300 long-range SAM system and can engage aircraft, cruise missiles, and theater ballistic missiles. With an operational range of 125 kilometers (77 miles), the FT-2000 export variant purportedly has a shorter range than the domestic HQ-9 SAM in use with the Chinese military, which allegedly has a reach of 200 kilometers (124 miles).

    This Monday, Chinese Premier Li Keqiang met with Pakistani Army Chief, General Raheel Sharif, to discuss deepening the China-Pakistan bilateral relationship, in particular strengthening military-to-military ties, Xinhua reports. Sharif also met with the Vice Chairman of China’s Central Military Commission Fan Changlong.
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    Porkies are scarred. Now they think that this ch**iya Chinki system shall be able to stop indian missile. How terrifically wrong they are.
     
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    Two words China and copy says it all


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    When word china is used, no need to say copy.
     
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    Well why russia sells its advance system to chain when it knows it can reverse it and sells to third country at low price.

    Wait tiil they master s-400 systems and start selling their own after reverse-engineering it
     
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    Because Russia's influence is going down.
    Best way I guess they may be finding to pass technology to other communist state to ensure security of second world.
     
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    Seriously,
    Is it really a question? :rolleyes:
     
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    This 'sale' will basically be China deploying its own air defense system, paid from Chinese pockets, to protect their strategic assets like ports, ELINT stations and shipping lanes around Gawadar, from US attacks. They will make it look like a sale but Pakistan doesn't have even spare change to pay them. At the very best China may spare a few batteries of anti-air missiles to Pakistan to deploy near the Indo-Pak border to collect intel on Indian flights and to deter an Indian attack on Gawadar. Basically, China is protecting its own assets, and Pakistan is getting a free ride like a parasite.
     
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    This is a reaction to DM statement that we will procure S 400 between 2017 - 2022.


    S 300 is an obsolete system even Barak 8 has Active Seeker with a descent range.However its a threat to IAF.
     
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    That's what I was feeling.
    Word sale is incorrect for pakis. :biggrin2:
     
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    We have harpy drones that were designed to destroy systems like s300. ( Israel-Iran)


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    Unless it is pronounced in Hindi : साले :rofl:
     
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    This system is useless against MIRV's


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    And Haroop :)


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    Still, it elevates the cost of certain types of operations from our end due to the acquisition of incremental technology. For example, a lot of spots which we could have easily hit with attack helicopters or used as SF insertion zones via heliborne operations will become unavailable to us now because our helicopters will face a threat from these systems. It increases the overall technical threshold for us for all future operations. Basically things which we could have easily and cheaply done will now have to be done by costly and top-of-the-line weapons. It doesn't make war impossible but it makes victory costly.
     
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    Navnit it provides psychological comfort not much more putting faith in a Chinese reversed engineered 4 decade old unknown system is all pak can do


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    MIRV Agni coming this is obsolete and insignificant .


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    Israel also has developed jammers for s300?


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