WikiLeaks cable: Congress suspects conspiracy, BJP slams Rahul Gandhi

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    NEW DELHI: Congress on Friday suspected a conspiracy behind the release of the WikiLeaks cable which says Rahul Gandhi had told US ambassador Timothy Roemer that growth of "radicalised Hindu groups" could pose a bigger threat to India than activities of groups like Lashkar-e-Taiba.

    "Let us verify the truth. May be there is some conspiracy behind the pattern with which this all is being done," party general secretary Janardan Diwedi said when asked about his reaction to the WikiLeaks release.

    According to a secret US diplomatic cable from New Delhi released by WikiLeaks, at a luncheon hosted by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh at his residence in July 2009, the Congress general secretary was asked by the US ambassador about LeT's activities in the region and immediate threat to India.

    "Gandhi said there was evidence of some support for the group among certain elements in India's indigenous Muslim community," the cable notes.

    "However, Gandhi warned, the bigger threat may be the growth of radicalised Hindu groups, which create religious tensions and political confrontations with the Muslim community," it says.

    Meanwhile the BJP condemned Rahul Gandhi's remarks and said "in one stroke", he has given a "big leverage" to the propaganda of all terror groups in Pakistan.

    Strongly objecting to the remarks made to US ambassador Timothy Roemer, as claimed by a WikiLeaks cable, BJP spokesperson Ravishankar Prasad said, "It is irresponsible. It is in the public domain and the US government has neither denied nor confirmed it. Therefore, it has sanctity."

    "In one stroke, Rahul Gandhi has sought to give a big leverage to the propaganda of all terror groups operating from Pakistan and certain segments of the Pakistan establishment," he told reporters here.

    Prasad said such remarks impinge upon India's strategic security and fight against terrorism.

    "If he sees a fringe radical Hindu group as the biggest threat in spite of so many terrorist attacks including 26/11 in which involvement of Pakistani groups is confirmed, then it only underscores how ignorant he is about India and its problems," the BJP leader said.

    The party also attacked him for making such remarks to a foreign diplomat and not before Parliament and said the opposition would take up the issue in next Parliament session and also before the people.

    Prasad said the statement "underscores how little Rahul Gandhi knows about India. The PM has publicly acknowledged that Maoism and terrorist threat from across the border are the biggest challenges before India and Rahul Gandhi says certain lunatic, marginalised Hindu radical groups are the biggest threat?"

    Senior opposition leader Prakash Javadekar said the statement shows "crass communalism and jaundiced world view".


    Read more: WikiLeaks cable: Congress suspects conspiracy, BJP slams Rahul Gandhi - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-Gandhi/articleshow/7116621.cms#ixzz18MH8bYLn
     
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  3. rcscwc

    rcscwc Tihar Jail Banned

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    Yes. Very true. BJP and RSS conspired that the said luncheon should be, and it was., BJP and RSS conspired that Rahul would be so indiscrete as not to know to whom he was talking. His loose talk has given grounds to islamist terrorists to perpetrate more terror. BJP conspired there too.

    Can you see that now Kasab can take a stronger defence?

    Till he matures, he should remain in the Kalawati warp.
     
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  4. Agantrope

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    Conspiracy?

    Can someone tell that wiki leaks server was hacked and this thing was copied in to defame Rahul Baba?

    What i think this is perfect plot to divert the people from the Ongoing Blockbuster Hit 2G Scam Movies running 24 shows on all news channel. Timely release IMO. Congress is very clear to disturb the opposition particularly BJP to nettle them out of the JPC probe demand in the winter session. But i never expected the mud fight gets this low!

    God save this nation. Amen!
     
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    In a discussion on IBN7, Ravi Shankar Prasad was clear. He asked Tiwari of Cong to just say that Rahul did not say that. Matter ends.
     
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    Modi taunts Rahul for remarks on Hindu terror
    18 Dec 2010, 1237 hrs IST
    Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi on Saturday (December 18) made a scathing attack on AICC General Secretary Rahul Gandhi's comments that radicalised Hindu groups posed a bigger threat than outfits like Lashkar-e-Taiba.

    Rahul Gandhi's comments on 'saffron terror' had sparked a political war but now Narendra Modi has hit back at the Gandhi scion.

    Taunting Rahul Gandhi for making "irresponsible" remarks Modi told reporters that he has to go through the cables but added, "I have been wondering for a long time now that the whole world believes that Pakistan is a terrorist state, yet the US always backs the country. I always wondered about this but never got an answer. However, yesterday after the cables were out, it got clear that who gave inspiration to the US to speak pro-Pakistan."


    http://www.timesnow.tv/Modi-taunts-Rahul-for-remarks-on-Hindu-terror/articleshow/4360780.cms

    Even I have suspected that for long. After all, the US TILT toward Pak has to be explained.
     
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    Uncle Sam would love this nephew

    When the whole world knows that Islamic terror is the biggest threat to the entire world and to the humanity as such, and when India is identified as the country most affected by the Islamic terror from across the border, Rahul Gandhi's utterance on 'home-grown' Hindu terror shows either lack of understanding of the underlying problem or a deliberate strategy at minority appeasement. Already wikileaks exposed the Congress indulging in minority appeasement soon after the Mumbai carnage. And today at the Congress session, Sonia has made statements against Hindus and whipped up communal passions with an eye on muslim appeasement. Both Sonia and Rahul have outwardly exhibited their hatred for the Hindus. Can't they be arrested for inflammatory speeches and hurting Hindus?

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    http://www.dailypioneer.com/304651/Uncle-Sam-would-love-this-nephew.html


    Uncle Sam would love this nephew


    December 19, 2010 7:43:05 AM
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    Kanchan Gupta

    Contrary to media reports and popular perception, the ‘secret’ cable despatched from the US Embassy in New Delhi on August 3, 2009 was not only about Mr Rahul Gandhi’s views on Hindu terror. A close reading of the cable, marked for the State Department and signed by US Ambassador to India Timothy J Roemer, would show that it was a report on efforts by the American mission aimed at “reaching out to Rahul Gandhi and other young parliamentarians”. The cable’s summary says: “In a review of the career and potential of Rahul Gandhi, 40-year-old heir apparent to the leadership of India’s ruling Congress party, the US Ambassador reports conversations with the young politician, speaking appreciatively of recent statements and potential for the future.” The key words, lest you miss them, are “reaching out”, “career and potential”, “heir apparent”, “appreciatively” and “future”. The man who represents American interests in India was keen on establishing ‘contact’ with the second most important person in the current, US-friendly dispensation in New Delhi; and it’s a hurrah! note to headquarters from him after having established that contact. As Mr Roemer highlights in his cable, “(Rahul) Gandhi… could become a key interlocutor… as we pursue a strategic dialogue with India.” Diplomats know who matters how much in which regime and which ‘key interlocutor’ can help push their country’s agenda. In this case, the agenda of the US, as it would like to see implemented in its newly discovered outpost in South Asia.

    The cable mentions that Mr Roemer met Mr Gandhi at a lunch hosted by the Prime Minister “in honour of the Secretary” — his reference is to US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. “Among the invitees was Indian Congress Party General Secretary Rahul Gandhi, as well as other prominent figures from politics, business and civil society.” But notwithstanding their ‘prominence’, these worthies do not merit mention by name in the cable. Mr Gandhi does — he “was seated next to the Ambassador” and “shared his views on a range of political topics, social challenges and electoral issues for the Congress in the next five years”. Since the discussion took place three months after the UPA won a second term in office, we can assume that Mr Gandhi had by then worked out everything for the Congress till 2014; he had charted the course for the party, so to say, to a third, and spectacular, victory in a row, thus enabling his transition from heir apparent to ruler. In between pointing out that the Congress, or the UPA if you wish, had a rather short honeymoon in its second term and detailing his plans to “find younger party members who would not carry some of the baggage of older Congress candidates” to contest and win elections, he commented on “the tensions created by some of the more polarising figures in the BJP such as Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi” (these words have been used by Mr Roemer, we can’t be sure whether Mr Gandhi used them in his conversation). It is in this context that Mr Roemer asked Mr Gandhi about the “Lashkar-e-Tayyeba’s activities in the region and immediate threat to India”. It would be in order to mention here that another US Embassy cable that the LeT’s threat to India is real, has not diminished since 26/11 and the Pakistan-based group is planning high profile strikes, including a plot to assassinate Mr Narendra Modi.

    We can only speculate on whether Mr Roemer’s query was in the context of that cable or he was subtly provoking a political response to a security issue to gauge any shift in the Government’s policy. It would be absurd to believe that the American Ambassador was unaware of hostilities between the Congress Dynasty and the Congress Destroyer in Gujarat. Be that as it may, Mr Gandhi’s response provides a glimpse into the intellectual abilities of the Prince who would be King one day. “(Rahul) Gandhi said there was evidence of some support for the group among certain elements in India’s indigenous Muslim community. However, Gandhi warned, the bigger threat may be the growth of radicalised Hindu groups, which create religious tensions and political confrontations with the Muslim community… The risk of a ‘home-grown’ extremist front, reacting to terror attacks coming from Pakistan or from Islamist groups in India, was a growing concern and one that demanded constant attention.” (The emphasis is that of Mr Roemer’s and not this writer’s.)

    The US Ambassador’s conclusion, based on the lunch table conversation, tells its own story: “Over the last four years, he was an elusive contact, but he could be interested in reaching out to the United States, given a thoughtful, politically sensitive and strategic approach on our part. We will seek other opportunities to engage with him…” It’s natural that there should be some amount of concern in Washington, DC about policy after the Regent vacates the masnad of Delhi for the Prince. If there’s one thing the American establishment is mindful of, it is that continuity is of the essence to promote and push national interest in foreign lands; regime change can have disastrous consequences. As for what the US mission really (emphasis added by this writer) thinks of Mr Gandhi, readers should look up the ‘secret’ cable tagged ‘Delhi Diary, January 30-February 19, 2010’, in which “A US diplomat romps through three weeks of Indian politics, from the chauvinism of the Shiv Sena to a new law allowing gay couples to celebrate Valentine’s Day.”

    In keeping with the style of the cables that have been ‘leaked’ into the public domain, here’s a summary: Outrage over Mr Gandhi’s frivolous analysis of the internal security scenario of India and his ill-informed commentary on terrorism is fine, but only up to a point. What is of greater import is the ease with which the proverbial ‘Quiet American’ can co-opt those who desire to rule India through “a thoughtful, politically sensitive and strategic approach”. Somewhere out there, Mrs Indira Gandhi’s soul would be most distressed following the disclosure of this particular cable, but then, when alive she carried the “baggage of older Congress candidates” as her grandson disparagingly describes those who have served the party (and presumably the country) for decades.
     
  9. S.A.T.A

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    A little over 150 years after first war of indian independence it took a Roman Catholic firangi and her whelp to tell us that Hindus are greatest threat India faces today.Frankly speaking we had it coming for a long time.probably this is for a good reason,it took the tyranny and arrogance of the Firangi's to wake up Indian conscience to seek freedom,dignity and national honour,may be around this time to we will need the haughty memsaab and her pup's tongue lashing to wake up and take back this country.........I'm reminded of what Swami Vivekananda once said.... "Arise, awake and stop not till the desired end is reached."
     
  10. bhogta

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    I don't know , what crime we (Hindu) did for that we got this type of treatment in our own country.
     
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    I was shocked to see that, agreed that some blast have been associated with Hindu Organisations but they are nothing in compare to what LeT have committed.
    Also while congress and rest of world does not want to call ISLAMIC terrorism (Which I agree is right), I feel the pain that everyone kind of loves to use Hindu terrorism. We have been treated as second class citizen,

    The reason that these Hindu Organization did not got big like LeT is because they do not have widespread support from Hindus. Something that should be appreciated instead.

    Scams, Scams and Scams and now this, time has come to put congress to dust. I hope BJP can project a decent leader.
     
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    I just want to change my citizenship. I don't want to rule by this type of people. This all they got in there agenda. Divide people and rule. I pity on people who really believe in them.
     
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    He was absolutely right. Terrorism from outsiders can be controlled but when your own people do it as the BJP and RSS have done it for so many years its much more painful and dangerous.
    I can't believe there is no sane person in India who can understand this.
     

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