Why Zaid Hamid is a success in Pakistani Society?

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Did I miss the proof?
repeated for the third time..............
Let me give you a recent example, Elections were held on Vacant seat in Rawalpindi, Main Candidates were
1) Seikh Rashid, Agenda was was welfare of 'comon man'
2) A candidate from Nawaz Sharif's party, Forget his name lol, agenda was same no America CIA BS
3 & 4) Candidate from PTI(Imran Khan Party) & JI, agenda, talks with taliban, go away america all CIA/Mossad Nexus, Black water, khilafat stuff

Results, Person from Nawaz's party 84K votes, Sheikh Rashid 60K votes & rest of two from PTI & JI 2K & 3K votes respectively, now tell me with all your honesty what do you think?

Even if Zion Hamid became leader he won't have any broad support
 

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How do you explain that he was the second choice for Pakistan president in a recent poll?
 

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succeeding in making poisoning minds of Paksitani Youth, as i said before he has not got such a big fan base
Explained in my one of my previous posts i.e.
You have done a shoddy job of explaining EG. You are mistaking ability to influence with ability to win elections. He is not a politician. His job is to influence people, not win elections and he is succeeding in his job.

How many elections has Bill Gates won ? And he is revolutionary.

He is a better demagogue as I said earlier, knowing exactly what the Pakistanis want to hear.
I hope you are right, though. I just don't believe you are.
^^You know the number of "punkhas" he has on his facebook page?
I read in a Pakistani article that he has 20000+ fans.
Anyway, I am not going to get into this game of proving that he is making an impact in Pakistan. To me that is obvious.
You feel his impact is limited, I think it is already large and growing. It is more a matter of perceptions now.
Her reasoning is completely flawed. You don't gauge a tv personality's popularity by comparing election results of politicians.
Millions are subtly impacted by him ... that is more dangerous than having thousands of diehard fans. He is polarizing Pakistanis.
 
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^^ Agree, though I think he is more than a TV personality.

He is the future Pakistan president!
 

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I also believe his political career was kick started during Mumbai 08. But Singh brought up a good point...he's NOT a politician as of now so let's not gauge him with polls! His damage is already done to the masses and now it's just a capsule to be swallowed by Pakistani's for further damage control by the government. It is sickening when you unwravel it all.
 
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^^ He is expendable. And the power will be with the Army as usual.
 

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He is a front. I agree with that. He has powerful backers.

This troika of Ahmed Quraishi, Zaid and that Shireen Mazari are all the fronts for the same establishment. They all reinforce and promote each other and their backers.
 
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You have done a shoddy job of explaining EG. You are mistaking ability to influence with ability to win elections. He is not a politician. His job is to influence people, not win elections and he is succeeding in his job.

How many elections has Bill Gates won ? And he is revolutionary.
U didnt got my point, I am saying that if he entered the politics then he will certainly have the agenda, which we all know, The parties which have some what similar agenda have not even got 5% votes


i still think you are giving him extra attention
 

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First thing i never knew about this poll & secondly if i am not wrong this 'Pak Press Alert' is a Zion Hamid Mouth Piece
Well, we all learn something new every day! ;)

I don't know about the second part.
 

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^^ He is expendable. And the power will be with the Army as usual.
Of course, the strategists and very very high ups are totally against what Zaid Hamid is preaching on the ground. It gives a level of plausible deniability as well. They consider this kind of stuff opiate for the masses. As Zaid let's go on another speech, they crack open another bottle. I know what you mean.
 

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I respect the fact that Emo Girl as a Pakistani isn't down with this clown. But I do not understand why she can't make the government connection with the way this personality has so quickly soared and the purpose behind people like him.
 

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Post 9/11 there were talks in the american society of this being an inside job, and there were thousands of conspiracy theories floating about. However, not only did the media give coverage to conspiracy theorists but also to experts who debunked these conspiracy theories. And today the debate is settled against teh conspiracy theories.

In Pakistan this is not happening. Zaid Hamid is not being challenged. People who are opposed to him are indifferent, people who support him are lapping up his every word.

What is even more frightening is that Zaid Hamid's arguments are built on flimsy foundation. The very fact that he is there still on TV, social media unchallenged unrivaled peddling BS, means he has already effected a severe change in the Pak Psyche.

Will any sane knowledgeable society not laugh at, barf at, protest against and object to to such BS ?
 

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I respect the fact that Emo Girl as a Pakistani isn't down with this clown. But I do not understand why she can't make the government connection with the way this personality has so quickly soared and the purpose behind people like him.
you know Media is all about business & they really give a Sh!t about national interests, He got people's attention with his conspiracy theories & he got famous, Channels invited him & went on & on....

I don't still don't see any 'governmental connection'
 

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@ Singh's last post : Spot on and thought provoking. Well there are people that are opposed to him who are NOT indifferent, but as you have seen with some evidence, they are escorted to a prison cell by armed government officials.
 

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I respect the fact that Emo Girl as a Pakistani isn't down with this clown. But I do not understand why she can't make the government connection with the way this personality has so quickly soared and the purpose behind people like him.
Its funny that Emo Girl as a Pakistani knows this guy is BSing but chooses to ignore rather than counter him.

In fact lets assume millions of Pakistanis know he is BSing but they are not speaking out against him, Could this be because he is popular and they choose to avoid being ridiculed by the masses by opposing him ?
 

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This guy can so easily be debunked with simple facts. Its a shame he can go on and on without the Pakistani civil society rubbing his nose in the dirt.

Every aira gaira in Pakistan is now a strategic and history expert after watching 2-3 TV shows of this clown.
 

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Its funny that Emo Girl as a Pakistani knows this guy is BSing but chooses to ignore rather than counter him.

In fact lets assume millions of Pakistanis know he is BSing but they are not speaking out against him, Could this be because he is popular and they choose to avoid being ridiculed by the masses by opposing him ?
Of course, these opposing voices would be jeered at and buffeted with dried vegetables all the way up to the gallows ! Emo Girl doesn't want none of that attention and it is understandable, but here at least she should feel comfortable enough in offering us better insight into not only WHY she is not responsive to Mr. Hamid's tactics but why so soft on him at the same time.
 

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