Why were so many countries islamized but not India?

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  1. Dreamhunter

    Dreamhunter Regular Member

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    Many regions in the world like Persia, North Africa, parts of eastern Europe, Anatolia, Central Asia, Afghanistan,
    Pakistan and Bangladesh were islamized by Arab and Turkic invaders. India also had to face these invaders but
    unlike many other countries it did not give up its religions, cultures or even identity. But what is the reason for that?
    Are the medieval Hindu Dynasties like the Pratihara, Chalukya, Rashtrakuta, Rajput, Vijayanagar, Gajapati,
    Ahom and Maratha Dynasties responsible for preventing the islamization of India?
    Why did Persians, Turks, North Africans, Anatolians, many east Europeans, Central Asians, Afghans and Pakistanis adopt the religion of the Arabs and even customs of the Arabs while most of the Indians refused to do that?
     
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  3. Syama Ayas

    Syama Ayas Regular Member

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    Following reasons:
    1. Geographical size of India
    2. Large population
    3. Continuous resistance
    4. Diverse terrain.
    5. Some level of unity.
    6. Attempts of forcible conversion.
    7. Use of War elephants.
    8. Adoption of guerrilla warfare.
    9. Some successful defenses and resistances.
     
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    Dreamhunter Regular Member

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    The geographical size of India can not be a reason as Persia and North Africa combined are larger than the modern region of India.
    The war elephants were only useful against the Arab invaders as the Chalukya and Pratihara forces used a large number of elephants to defeat them in the 8th century. But later against the Turkic invaders most of the Indian Dynasties stopped to rely on large number of elephants and started to use a high number of cavalry units.

    Indian Dynasties only relied on elephants until the late 11th century. From the 12th century onwards most of the Indian Dynasties started to use a huge amount of light and heavy cavalry units.
     
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    LETHALFORCE Moderator Moderator

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    If you look at Muslims of Indian ancestry . You would see there was significant islamization.

    Afghanistan 30 million
    Bangladesh 150 million
    Pakistan 200 million
    India 230 million
    Sri Lanka 5 million

    Islamization may not be complete but Hindus cannot claim a victory. I am also excluding central Asian states where many rulers came from . All south Asian Muslims have HINDU ancestry.
     
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    If we look at the region of modern India then it is a victory. The region of modern India was since ancient times the center of Indian civilization while regions like Afghanistan and Pakistan were mostly border regions of Indian civilization and never relevant.
     
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    I disagree with the second highest Muslim population in the world there is nothing to debate. We are not Spain or Italy that fought
    Islamization by a united effort and had complete victories and preserved their homogeneous religion. Any wars fought by Hindus against muslims were fragmented efforts. The Sikhs were more United and organized.
     
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    It is probably the colonisation of India by the British that prevented complete islamization of India.?
     
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    It is not appropriate to compare India with Italy or Spain as Spain and Italy never had to face major Turkic invasions in their own country. They only had to face much weaker Arab forces. And we all know that Spain was conquered by the Arabs
     
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    thats funny,
    use of war elephants ??? :laugh::laugh::laugh:
    whats that supposed to mean,

    the reason must be cultural resistance rather than warfare tactics,
    if those warfare tactics were ever be proved useful against defence then islam armies would be never conquered indian territories.
     
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    LETHALFORCE Moderator Moderator

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    Turks invaded Italy. Our populations were much greater.
    So why look for excuses?
    Fact:
    More than half of the total world Muslim population is of Indian/Hindu ancestry.
     
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    salute Senior Member Senior Member

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    india may not be islamized but its westernized.
     
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    This trend will only increase with globalisation.
     
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    According to Pakistanis ,Indians and Pakistanis are totally different races .There Pashtuns and others are more beautiful than short dark Indians .:D
    I think Pakistanis in this forum will oppose you with nail and tooth to defend that claim :D
     
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    DNA tests prove otherwise. Pakistan deny their Hindu ancestry while Indonesians preserve the customs. Pashtuns are not the majority in Pakistan. 93 percent of Pakistan DNA match Indian DNA halogroup H (Y-DNA)
     
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    rajiv malhotra gave very nice explanation about this at one of his video on youtube that globalisation is going on western terms.
     
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    Because Indianism inside our blood and hearts, boils whenever there's a threat to the Nation. :salute::india2::salute:

    :india:
     
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    You yevil yindoo dark and short, kaffir bharati baniyas, we are not bharatis.
    We are proud Iranians, Turks, Mongols, Mughals, Turks, Arabs, Chinese, Americans, Russians, Europeans (and probably even aliens) :alien:
    But remember, we aren't Indians at all. :nono:

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    This would be almost same as that of reply which you'll get from a paki. :biggrin2:
     
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    Let them say what the want. Just look in mirror or get a
    blood test.Arabs, turks, Iranians etc...make absolutely no
    claim that they are Same Race as Pakistanis. Pakistanis in
    foreign lands become Indians.
     
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    Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh and 20% of Indian Population(courtesy Sickular politics). Is that not a proof big enough for you? Indian Hindu population could not be exterminated because of the vast expanse of India offered enough geographical positions where not only they could hide but also had advantageous positions over enemies in guerrilla warfare. That gave them enough time to regroup and be constant P.I.T.A for invading hordes. Islamic hordes stretched itself too thin to fight off local resistance in far corners of the country consequently fractured. And local regional non muslim powers expanded and filled the vacuum. The most prominent among them being Maratha and Sikhs. And why they lost out to Euro ? The answer lies in the fact that they were not united and often at confrontation with each other(Sikhs - Marathas). Thats the same reason why 1857 failed(come to think of it, it was good thing)
     
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    Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan plus 230 million Muslims in India. Yeah, we were Islamized.
     
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