Why UPA has better chances to win the 2013-14 Elections than NDA

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  1. parijataka

    parijataka Senior Member Senior Member

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    Broadly agree. In 2004, BJP thought they'd be voted back due to a vibrant economy and in 2009 again they hoped again to be given a chance. In 2014 let BJP not be under the illusion that UPA/Congress corruption will automatically benefit them. Congress Party is past master in divisive tactis and will definitely do some massive spending on freebies to gain votes before 2013-14. If enough people are pissed of with Congress and vote for regional outfits, then we may be headed for ragtag Third Front even with likes of Mulayam and Mamata calling the shots.

    Why UPA has better chances to win the 2013-14 Elections and why NDA has only one way to win it.

     
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    I wonder.

    Actually, people have got tired of the inept leadership, the State being run like a rudderless ship with a torn sail that suddenly catches the wind to steer but the holes in the sail fizzles out that favourable wind and the endless scams and till now imagined to be classy Ministers behaving no better than the worst of Don and coming out as seconds of the Dawood Ibarahim ilk!

    It is true that the choice is limited, but one cannot jettison democracy and one has to vote.

    Maybe the lesser crook will win, till the untested and yet apparently clean 'civil society' takes over the reins and they get politically astute and mature.

    Or to look at a bad bargain optimistically, the next Govt will be more 'careful' in thieving.

    So, it will be an era of controlled and careful and less thieving.

    Some relief indeed!

    A powerful Lok Pal will even so will never be passed, let alone tabled.

    And all investigating agencies and revenue agencies will still respond to the crack of the Ringmaster's whip!
     
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    Congress is not going to win more than 125 seats in any case.

    DMK + NCP + IUML + KCP + NC = 20 seats.

    So, UPA can win max 145 seats in best case scenario.
     
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    BJP is a cadre based party with many very good and competent people. I would love to see NDA/BJP win in next Lok Sabha elections but BJP should not be complacent. I believe the real voters lie among the poor and rural folk not the internet based middle class. BJP should tap the lower classes also.
     
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    On contrary, I think BJP should target urban India first. They lost urban constituencies very badly in 2009. There are around 150 seats in urban India. BJP only won just 15%-20% seats in these area in last general election. Party should focus to win at least 50% seats this time. If that will happen, Party can easily win 160+ seats without increasing any seat in rural area.

    Bihar, Jharkhand, MP, C'garh, Rajasthan, Gujarat are 6 most rural states - BJP has strong presence. Party can win two-third seats easily. In fact, It won 50% seats in 2009 also.

    BJP needs to focus in 4 key states - UP, Mah, AP, Odissa. Out of 191 LS seats, BJP won only 19 seats last time. Just 10%. Huge upside potential. In 1996-98, Party won around 80 seats in these 4 states but lost the momentum due to many blunder. I heard that BJP UP president Laxmikant doing quite well. Uma Bharti also travelling in entire state. Still, Long way to go.
     
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    parijataka Senior Member Senior Member

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    Very good if it happens. BJP, with their very good track record of governance in almost all the states where they are in power, deserves to be given a chance rather than Congress that has looted in last 8 years or parties like SP, BSP, DMK, etc that are equally corrupt and criminal.
     
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    The author of the article is under the illusion that the people of India are as dumb as cattle and have no power to change. The 04 and 09 elections, in both the cases, upa emerged as the unexpected winner. A few months ago, pollsters were telling that dmk would sweep TN. So all this kind of analysis should be thrown to the bin. One only has to feel the pulse of the nation to understand which way the verdict of the nation will go.
    Writing articles from the confines of an air conditioned room, that is not possible.
     
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    The author represented the best case scenerio.He included SP, BSP and also counted a lot more seats for present coalition parties. And failed to understand the relation between BJP and JD(U).Even if JD(U) goes, other parties can support NDA easily. Well, he already put warning about being skeptic about his counting so no wonder at all.
     
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    Galaxy is right. Although there is no way in hell that BJP can lose urban votes, if municipal elections are in an indicator.

    They should strengthen alliances and try to aggressively woo rural voters too
     
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    The BJP should get there act together and put their house in order first there are many corrupt leaders in BJP also, basking away in the sun just because there are corruption scandal against the Congress is not sufficient they should keep corrupt leaders out of the party and discipline them selves and make a steadfast strategy to take the message and plan of economic development and security of the nation to the middle class and the poor. Getting back to the grass root and becoming the party of the people which has representatives from the grass root, initiate inter-party democracy to enable party members to elect the reps by means of voting this will assure new ideas from within the party and made BJP a different party from the Congress family run enterprise. It is necessary to tell the voters what is the economic , social, plan for them and how they will benefit from the policy's which will be innovative and take care of the problem the nation faces and how India will become competitive. On the social front the BJP should make an unflinching effort to consolidate the Hindu vote by making then vote in block for them, they should tell them that they are a party who will not appease and will work for their welfare more then congress this would mean give a push in reforming of the religion and getting the tribal and OBC and Dalits into there thinking. This can be done with the help of grass root workers who go door to door explaining what the party stands for in the same manner they should explain to the Sihks, Jains, Buddhists why voting for BJP will be in there benefit they should take the Dharmic and members of indigenous faiths and create an umbrella which would stand for social justice, economic reform, security of the nation and most importantly unity of the nation as against appeasement, family rule, nepotism which prevail in Congress. As for the muslin vote they should make it clear that they do not stand for appeasement and make way for patriotic Muslims who genuinely think for the nation,(who are scarce in numbers) and the BJP should know that Muslims in India are also a divided lot they should make contact with Ahmadiyya,(are not considered as Muslims by the majority sunni sect) and accommodate the followers Barelvi set,( are ideological opponents to the Wahhabi sects).
     
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    Sufficient number of Indian voters are fools unfortunately.
     
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    Yes UPA has good chance because of 2G, Coalgate , Common wealth & other scams . We have to give them power again so that the whole country is sold to Italy

    So that we can hear RADIO ITALY DELHI
     
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    UPA still has better chance of winning 2014 General Elections I feel.Populous Uttar Pradesh will vote SP/BSP who are under CBI thumb, AP will vote the corrupt Jagan and CBI also has him screwed, TN will vote either DMK or AIADMK who will align with which ever party is likely to form govt at Delhi, Maharashtra is anyway Congress-NCP stronghold. That covers major portion of India I guess.

    So we are screwed for another 5 years.
     
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    You forgot to mention Karnataka where Congress has made roaring comeback thanks to B.S.Yeddurappa who ruined BJP 5 Year rule :rolleyes:
     
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    i don't know about rest of indian but my vote will be against kongress , i don't want a family run country .

    I want my children or grandchildren have chance to be pm .

    Cant a normal iIndian pm what if i m not gandhi.

    I think nation is against kongress and no matter how many congress support article come ..
     
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    Mohandas Pai says no to Wharton

    BANGALORE: Days after Wharton Indian Economic Forum (WIEF) dropped Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi as its keynote speaker, Mohandas Pai, chairman, Manipal Global, turned down the invitation to speak at the annual event, saying that he is upset at the way India is treated by a section of the international community. Pai was to address the forum on March 23.

    Pai told TOI that his decision was prompted by a string of instances of Indian politicians and diplomats being "treated shabbily" by some countries. "I've been upset for a few days but the last straw came with Italy disrespecting the Indian Prime Minister and our Supreme Court by not letting its marines face trial for murder as it had promised earlier. This is an insult to bilateral partnership," he said.

    His decision on Thursday coincided with Pakistan's national assembly adopting a resolution condemning the hanging of 2001 parliament attack convict Afzal Guru and Sri Lankan navy personnel arresting 60 Indian fishermen when they were fishing near Katchatheevu close to Rameswaram.

    "Wharton treated Narendra Modi shabbily, our Prime Minister and Supreme Court are treated badly by the Italian government, Pakistan is making comments on Afzal Guru's hanging, Lanka is treating our fishermen as illegal immigrants. Now, I don't feel good about attending the Wharton event," Pai said.

    Gautam Adani of the Adani Group and Atul Nishar from Hexaware Technologies had backed out after Wharton withdrew its invitation to Modi.

    The annual event brings together business & political leaders, professionals, academics and students from around the world to analyse India's key social, political and financial challenges.

    Mohandas Pai says no to Wharton - The Times of India

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    Mohandas Pai is no fan of Modi!

    Instead, he is working for UPA schemes.

    If he also feels so disgusted about everything that is happening to India and its prestige sinking to rock bottom, then there is something seriously amiss.

    Therefore, one wonders if the UPA has a ghost of a chance.

    It must be also understood that the rural areas have access to TV channels in Hindi too.

    And the Hindi TV channels are more viral than the English channels. Scams after scams and slights to India after slights is taking its toll on the Indian psyche.

    To any Indian, national prestige is more important than other issues.

    The latest scam is the one exposed by Cobrapost sting on banks and how they are laundering money for the bigwigs.

    Mohandas Pai forgot to mention that even a inconsequential country like Maldives has told India to take a running jump!

    The next expose by Cobrapost is said to be on the politicians.

    The greatest worry is that there could be a rag tag conglomerate of diversely opposites in power, pulling in different directions.
     
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    I feel sad for India
     
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    if Mr N.Modi is going to lead BJP then a person like will never vote for BJP, no matter what....... its not just me but even Western Media is hopeful that either Rahul or Modi will lead India in future. Rahul is nothing but a Western Slave, for the purpose to serve West, while reputation of Modi is made very bad by the same Western Media, so that he may then provide enough opportunity to US/West to harm India someway.......

    hence no wonder, they want either Rahul or Modi only to lead India, as below :ranger:

     
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    That would give Modi a walkover!

    Whoever said that this bloke Rahul would lead.

    He has lead nothing except dreams.

    It would be wise of the Congress to just act as dumb about the issue as Rahul G is dumb about everything!
     
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