Why the army can fight in J&K but not Chhattisgarh: Brig (Retd) SK Chatterji

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we We are investing billions in F-INSAS. Why not invest atleast $2 billion or more in raising Anti-Terrorist Force of atleast 10,000 soldiers,groups of few hundred, thousands and lower size elite commandos with state of the art weaponry, communication devices. Specialized forces for various terrain mountainous, jungle etc. Keep it out of army. Assist or lead other forces in various troubled regions. Just one decade and we can get rid of all these extremists which are costing us billions of dollars.Take them out one by one..
Such force exists as CRPF Cobra..
 

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LF private army is out of question, SC has already over rule weapons to civilians to be used against them.
Best option is to induct ex servicr men into para military and used their skills against them. Since they move from one state to another, states co- ordination is must to seal them off, intel is another area, which need massive support. Thermal and night vision equipment etc are must too if you want to fight them. Last but not least economic development of area is must. It will be long war we should be ready for it.
How about using Drones??
 
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Setting up of paramilitary units in the lines of black water is not a solution as SPOs there had already shown us that they are not better than naxals in terms of conduct towards common people nor they could withstand the onslaught of naxals.Empowering Crpf and state police are the only solution.Also state machinery should implement schemes to win the hearts of oppressed as done in J&K.
when they is a incentive like money involved and a reward for each naxal brought in
dead or alive the operations will be more successful.
 

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when they is a incentive like money involved and a reward for each naxal brought in
dead or alive the operations will be more successful.

And a lot of Innocent lives snuffed at the altar of greed too. . .

Terrible idea IMO
 
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And a lot of Innocent lives snuffed at the altar of greed too. . .

Terrible idea IMO
Police have failed miserably,Any better ideas?? So far there have been 2 solutions
winning the hearts and minds of the naxals which is a very long term plan possibly taking
generations and has proven to fail when tried in Kashmir, economic development would also take time and money.
The second is to use greater force-since Naxals are well funded and armed the first idea
is mostly like fail and will have you return to the second solution.
 

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Police have failed miserably,Any better ideas?? So far there have been 2 solutions
winning the hearts and minds of the naxals which is a very long term plan possibly taking
generations and has proven to fail when tried in Kashmir, economic development would also take time and money.
The second is to use greater force-since Naxals are well funded and armed the first idea
is mostly like fail and will have you return to the second solution.

the challenge of Winning the Heart and minds of Naxals and their sympathizers is a different one then in Kashmir

People in Kashmir feel separated due to ethno religious reasons something that you can do little about unlike
in Naxal infested lands where the problem is primarily caused due to economic disparity . . .

So no reason why one should give up on that front taking cue from Kashmir,

In any case the Indian attempts at both the policy and execution level in Kashmir have been shoddy at best in the past .
 
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the challenge of Winning the Heart and minds of Naxals and their sympathizers is a different one then in Kashmir

People in Kashmir feel separated due to ethno religious reasons something that you can do little about unlike
in Naxal infested lands where the problem is primarily caused due to economic disparity . . .

So no reason why one should give up on that front taking cue from Kashmir,

In any case the Indian attempts at both the policy and execution level in Kashmir have been shoddy at best in the past .
So far the Naxal insurgency has grown for 30 years and now is 10 times the size of the Kashmir
insurgency we should try to win their hearts and minds. Just look at how big the insurgency is and
how much time it has been given to thrive ;and think if this will be practical? Naxals are funded by China who
has it's sights on India's territory.
 
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So far the Naxal insurgency has grown for 30 years and now is 10 times the size of the Kashmir
insurgency we should try to win their hearts and minds. Just look at how big the insurgency is and
how times has been given to thrive and think if this will be practical?
The Insurgency may have been going on for 30 years but Indian Govt has only woken up to the problem only now . . .

Any serious attempts at fighting this insurgency are a decade old at the very best, and they too have been half hearted .

I am not against targeting their ring leaders , but solution you suggested would only make the problem worse .

The solution lies in Socio economic reforms not guns .
 
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The Insurgency may have been going on for 30 years but Indian Govt has only woken up to the problem only now . . .

Any serious attempts at fighting this insurgency are a decade old at the very best, and they too have been half hearted at best .

I am not against targeting their ring leaders , but solution you suggested would only make the problem worse .

The solution lies in Socio economic reforms not guns .
When there are others involved with an agenda, no socio -economic reform will matter.
Socio-economic reform has not happened in India for 65 years since India became independent
I don't think it can happen for a 100 years in the naxal region. Has Indian govt once asked
China to stop supporting the insurgency?


http://www.himalayanaffairs.org/article.aspx?id=443

MAOISTS FURTHER LINK-UP WITH CHINA-SUPPORTED NORTH EAST TERRORIST GROUPS RE-UNITING
 
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When there are others involved with an agenda no socio -economic reform will matter.
Socio-economic reform has not happened in India for 65 years since India became independent
I don't think it can happen for a 100 years in the naxal region.
Then Target the Others . . .Not your own .

You are wrong in saying that Socio Economic reforms have not happened in India ever . . .

They do not need to happen after an avalanche of decisions taken at the Political level ,

Gradual shift in Policies would also qualify as reforms .

Cannot happen in another 100 years ? . . .

That's the height of pessimism . . .Have a good look at what all has happened in last 100 years

No cause is impossible if their is a Political will behind it .
 

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How about using Drones??
Only once helicopter gunship were used in J&K, it gives bad massage, same is true for combat drone. We have to track them used uavs and other assets. Eleminate those who want to fight and make sure all their support goes. Then go for economic development, we have to make sure, ISI and other terror groups dont help them with matrial.
 
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Only once helicopter gunship were used in J&K, it gives bad massage, same is true for combat drone. We have to track them used uavs and other assets. Eleminate those who want to fight and make sure all their support goes. Then go for economic development, we have to make sure, ISI and other terror groups dont help them with matrial.
Use surveillance drones and satellites.
 
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Then Target the Others . . .Not your own .

You are wrong in saying that Socio Economic reforms have not happened in India ever . . .

They do not need to happen after an avalanche of decisions taken at the Political level ,

Gradual shift in Policies would also qualify as reforms .

Cannot happen in another 100 years ? . . .

That's the height of pessimism . . .Have a good look at what all has happened in last 100 years

No cause is impossible if their is a Political will behind it .
The amount of time it takes for reform would make this unattractive and also if China provides
more funding for terror then India does for reform it will also fail.
 

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The amount of time it takes for reform would make this unattractive and also if China provides
more funding for terror then India does for reform it will also fail.

and the

Prospect of countless innocent human lives lost,
Bombing our own with Predator drones ,
and adding the time proven fertilizer of persecution to an Ideology

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Use surveillance drones .
Lf they are doing it. Most important is human intell, enemy is routhless, i have heard stories how they kill informers in front of their familes, so people dont give info, instead they give info about paramilitry movement to enemy.
 
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Lf they are doing it. Most important is human intell, enemy is routhless, i have heard stories how they kill informers in front of their familes, so people dont give info, instead they give info about paramilitry movement to enemy.
To me an operation along the lines of operation bluestar needs to be carried out.
In one sweep get rid of this problem once and for all.
 

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I don't need to prove my allegiance. Stick to the topic without getting personal.

You already state it openly . . .

In any case . . .I made my points . . .You can revert back to them . . .and state your reason why they don't need consideration
 

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