Why the army can fight in J&K but not Chhattisgarh: Brig (Retd) SK Chatterji

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    The Cabinet Committee on Security recently resisted the temptation to field the army to fight the Maoists.The decades-long insurgency has engulfed 230 odd districts and has manifested adequate consolidation lately. The killing of 76 policemen on April 6 at Dantewada, Chhattisgarh, followed by the derailment of the Jnaneswari Express that left 150 dead and the killing of 27 CRPF troopers on June 29, are indicators of the degree of senseless violence they are ready to inflict.

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    These attacks are also proof of the movement taking a terrorist turn, with the killing of innocent civilians not being a taboo anymore.

    However, before we field the armed forces there is reason to take stock of the differences between the Maoist movement and the insurgency in Jammu and Kashmir where the army has also been deployed in strength for decades.
     
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    The Maoist problem is India's first fully home-grown insurgency. The problem is rooted in our inept administration and rank corruption that has denied the benefits of growth to a huge swath of our population, who continue to live in poverty.


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    In contrast, the Jammu and Kashmir problem is a proxy war, covertly and overtly supported by Pakistan. It falls in the category of State-sponsored terrorism..
     
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    Also, in sharp contrast to the Maoist-affected interiors where poverty, deprivation and hunger stalk every village,

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    the streets of Srinagar hardly have an impoverished man
     
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    The basic drivers of the Maoist insurgency are politico-economic-social, in essence. Its fuel mix includes our class-ridden social structure that refuses to confer social acceptance and dignity to all. The Maoists' promise of a class-less society offers a world of hope to people who have all along been discriminated on grounds of caste and creed. It has no fundamentalist influence.

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    In Kashmir, the movement has gone far beyond being fuelled by the demands of independence or merger with Pakistan. Today, it is an extension of fundamental Islamist militancy, with its commitment to the Islamist Caliphate at the end of the road.

    The Lashkar-e-Tayiba , the lead militant organisation in Kashmir, is a proponent of this convoluted philosophy.
     
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    The Maoist problem encompasses multiple states. The spread of the area affected by insurgency is far larger. Lack of political consensus has eroded the quality of response. Absence of co-ordination between states has allowed freedom of movement to the terrorists. Intelligence sharing mechanisms are yet to be put in place.

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    In Jammu and Kashmir there was broad consensus amongst mainstream political parties for deployment of armed forces. The concept of a joint command of forces combating the terrorists was put into effect in Jammu and Kashmir leading to synergy between the state police and the central armed forces.
     
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    In Jammu and Kashmir, in spite of the borders being guarded rather heavily, the rugged mountainous jungle terrain allows induction of weapons by the infiltrators. Though heavy weaponry is difficult to ferry from across the borders, there is no dearth of personal weapons of the best quality like the AK-47.

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    The Maoists depend primarily on looted old and obsolete armouries of police forces. Of course there are more AK-47s now, but it still is a far cry from what is available in the valley.

    However, the weaponry of the Maoists being poorer, their combat capability may not be as good. They make up for it in terms of numbers, though. The pros and cons put together, the Maoist problem will also suck in more and more of an already stretched army, if deployed.
     
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    The current strength of the Maoist cadre is estimated variously between 10,000 and 30,000. Even if the figure of 10,000 be accepted, it is far in excess of 3,000 odd terrorists that we faced in Jammu and Kashmir when insurgency was at its peak.Gaining an upper hand over the terrorists in Jammu and Kashmir forced us to deploy over 250,000 men.

    In Jammu and Kashmir we legislated the Armed Forces Special Powers Act for applicability in the state. In Maoist areas there is no such legislation operative.

    In Jammu and Kashmir, the army initiated a huge perception management operation to win the hearts and minds of the people. The operation's major plank has been Sadbhavna, essentially a civic action programme responsive to the aspirations of the people. In remote areas the armed forces assisted the villagers in improving their quality of life and bringing succour during natural calamities like the snow tsunami and earthquake of 2005.
     
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    The fact of change in perceptions is most vividly obvious in the study undertaken by Robert Bradrock, a scholar from King's College, London, which concludes that only two percent people in Jammu and Kashmir favour merger with Pakistan, today.

    In contrast, no major perception management initiatives have been launched in Maoist areas. Even if developmental funds that have now been earmarked are put to use, a task difficult as such with the government's writ not extending to the interiors, it is doubtful whether an inept and corrupt administration will allow the benefits to reach those who are its professed recipients.
     
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    The differences between the two insurgencies are gapingly wide. In addition, we have to realise that this is going to be the nature of tasks for the police and paramilitary forces, tomorrow. There is no choice they have but to upgrade to standards so that they remain relevant in the emerging environment.

    We have had decades to realise these basic truths when the Maoist insurgency was gradually gathering strength. However, the police leadership failed to prepare its forces for the inevitable; an absolute lack of strategic vision.The preparations might as well start today, unfortunately, by paying the price against the Maoists.
     
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    Even the India Constitution promised a class-less and egalitarian society. If what was espoused in the Constitution actually reflected on the ground, we would not have a Maoist insurgency today.
     
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    Indian govt needs to set up a reserve force just for insurgencies-It can be made up
    of retired military to hired mercenaries and should claim no association to Indian govt- something
    along the line of a Indian Blackwater or dyncorp
     
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    the basic problem is politics and no one want to loose vote
     
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    IMO he is right ! politics is involved in all this, central Congress govt doesn't take interest in problems of BJP ruled states. I have visited Naxal areas and I know they have started to affect the common people now, they can only be dealt with AFSPA type laws.
     
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    Impoverished is not the only reason for tribal turned Maoists.

    Destruction of their way of life is one of the major reasons.

    Maoists are not the only homegrown insurgency. The NE insurgencies are also homegrown and have been tackled by the Army.

    Every insurgency to sustain itself with funds and weaponry has to have external backers. While the J&K has physical involvement of foreigners, the other insurgencies do not have external physical involvement.

    The tribal society, where Maoism is rampant, is classless. The tribal are insular and inwardly want very little to do with the society at large outside their preserve.
     
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    Setting up of paramilitary units in the lines of black water is not a solution as SPOs there had already shown us that they are not better than naxals in terms of conduct towards common people nor they could withstand the onslaught of naxals.Empowering Crpf and state police are the only solution.Also state machinery should implement schemes to win the hearts of oppressed as done in J&K.
     
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    we We are investing billions in F-INSAS. Why not invest atleast $2 billion or more in raising Anti-Terrorist Force of atleast 10,000 soldiers,groups of few hundred, thousands and lower size elite commandos with state of the art weaponry, communication devices. Specialized forces for various terrain mountainous, jungle etc. Keep it out of army. Assist or lead other forces in various troubled regions. Just one decade and we can get rid of all these extremists which are costing us billions of dollars.
    Take them out one by one.

    Our Rafale, FGFA, Su 30MKI won't be used any soon. Cut only very small portion. For future threat we are ignoring present one.
     
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    LF private army is out of question, SC has already over rule weapons to civilians to be used against them.
    Best option is to induct ex servicr men into para military and used their skills against them. Since they move from one state to another, states co- ordination is must to seal them off, intel is another area, which need massive support. Thermal and night vision equipment etc are must too if you want to fight them. Last but not least economic development of area is must. It will be long war we should be ready for it.
     
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    make sure enemy's money supplied is dry up and they dont get material support.
     
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    Ani-terrorist raids along with drying up logistics and money and rehabilitation of surrendered extremists should be done in parallel.
     

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