Why Pakistanis hate India

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  1. ashdoc

    ashdoc Senior Member Senior Member

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    People in the turkish defence forum ( trdefence.com )were asking about the reason for hate between India and Pakistan . I wrote the post below in answer . DFI posters are welcome to add anything to this if they think so.

    copy/paste ( of original post by ashdoc for trdefence.com )--


    the reason for the hate goes back to the era before partition .

    you see , the muslim elites of undivided india used to consider themselves as a ' master race ' who had ruled over the hindus for 6-7 centuries . remember , the mass of the common muslims didnt have this ' master race ' mentality--for they were always poorer than the common hindus , and had been converted from the lower castes of hindus anyway . but the elites had this mentality , especially those who traced their roots to foreign lands like central asia , iran and afghanistan.

    now with the coming of the british rule , they ,for the first time , realised that they were a minority among the hindus......
    all the mass rapes , massacres , destruction of hindu temples , forcible conversions had failed to convert the majority of hindus to islam !!

    now they , long used to ruling the roost , found that they had to economically compete with the hindus for jobs--and soon found themselves outclassed in that department by the hindus !! this led them to an acute insecurity about their position in india .

    when it became clear that the british were going to leave india , they ( the master race ) realised that the hated infidels ( hindus )were now going to rule the country......
    the kaafir was going to rule the muslims !!
    this led them on an acute trip of paranoia......

    jinnah , a politician who had hoped to lead the whole of india , but found his position upsurped by mahatma gandhi , now found the chance to revive his flagging career by raising the bogey of--islam khatray mey ( islam in danger )--so that he would get the grand historical role he envisioned for himself by becoming founder of pakistan . the tool he used was the muslim league party , which was composed largely of the muslim elite. the muslim league then convinced the mass of illiterate common muslims that the hindus were making a grand conspiracy of subjugating the muslims , and a seperate nation must be founded to protect their interests .

    thus pakistan was born after the muslims began to riot all over india , the indian national congress realised that it was hopeless to try to keep the state united .

    now things should have stopped at that-- but the muslim league wanted the new state ( pakistan ) to live upto its name and become PAK , that means pure . and pure it was to be made by massacring those hindus and sikhs who lived in pakistan . once those massacres started , the hindus and sikhs in india retaliated , and rivers of blood flowed on both sides . ultimately , west pakistan was ethnically cleansed of all hindus and sikhs ( except a few ) , and a similar ethnic cleansing occured in indian states of punjab , haryana , himachal , and upto some extent in bihar . all this bred HATE on both sides .

    Turkish readers will be reminded of the story of the exchange of populations between greece and turkey--greek muslims going to turkey , and turkish christains going to greece after bloody massacres on both sides . the difference here is that unlike greece , which had tried to grab anatolia by waging war on the turks , and planning to annihilate them , india had made no such war .

    now remained the question of some states ruled by ancient dynasties , who had accepted british suzerainty , but had been allowed to rule their own kingdoms within british india . of these hyderabad and junagadh were hindu majority states with muslim rulers . the ruler junagadh tried to join pakistan ( inspite of the hindu majority ), and the pakistani state helped him in this . the ruler of hyderabad declared himself independent and started killing the hindus with arms given by pakistan . but this cruel and cunning gameplan by pakistan was nullified by india's superior military power . the indian army simply marched into these territories and joined them to india .

    what the pakistanis didn't know was that india was going to pay them back in the same coin . kashmir was a state with a muslim majority , but having a hindu ruler . he was thinking of becoming independent ,while pakistan was planning to grab it . but jawaharlal nehru , india's prime minister was a kashmiri hindu , and didn't want his region to go to pakistan . when the pakistanis launched their invasion of kashmir , the hindu ruler asked nehru for help . nehru asked him to sign the instrument of accsesion to india . this got some legitimacy because sheikh abdullah , the leader of the kashmiri muslims , who had been waging a long battle against its hindu ruler , supported the accession . indian troops were airlifted into kashmir , and the pakistani invasion was halted with the area under pakistani control going to pakistan .

    now pakistan wants the whole of kashmir under the guise of muslim majority , forgetting that it too had played the same game in respect to junagadh and hyderabad that india did in kashmir . its another matter that india's superior military power prevailed .

    actually pakistan uses the ' hate-india ' card to keep its varied peoples united . hate for india , is indeed the only reason why all pakistanis can come together--otherwise pakistan would be split apart . so pakistani politicians keep the hate alive to unite pakistani people.

    another reason for keeping the hate for india alive is the fact that this allows the pakistani army to justify the mammoth expenditures on itself--using a huge part of the national budget . this money is used to fuel the hi-fi and expensive lifestyles of the pakistani generals . they fear that if the hate india card falls ,then common pakistanis will demand a reduction in military budget . if that happens , where will the money to fund their lavish lifestyles come from ?? so hate for india has to be kept alive......

    kashmir is the excuse , mind you , the excuse to hate india--not the reason . if kashmir goes to pakistan ,then pakistans will doubtlessly find other excuses to hate india , and keep their country from falling apart .
     
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  3. nitesh

    nitesh Mob Control Manager Stars and Ambassadors

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    pakistanis hate themselves most, they still don't know what they are. They just know, they are not Indian. There identity is based on hatred. They are like child of the father they don't know who, sometimes they run to Turks, sometimes to Arabs. Hopeless scenario
     
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    Well said Ashdoc .I would visit this site and see how the thread develops

    I believe that this hatred for Hindus was programmed and encrypted in PAKISTANI DNA from the very beginning

    Infact some Muslim League Elites had the AUDACITY to tell the British that since they had taken over from the Muslims so they ie the British should HAND OVER INDIA to the Muslims

    This LATENT hatred for Hindus then EXPLODED INTO open and IMPOTENT RAGE when India SNATCHED Kashmir in 1947 -48 .This was the first time that the Martial race theory was PUNCTURED .

    Pakistanis in their forum lament that the only time Pakistan could grab Kashmir was in 1962

    Now comes 1965

    Pakistanis believe that after 1962 Hindus are finished ,10 Hindus are equal to one Muslim and so they start a war

    The result is a rude shock and the Martial race theory is Blown apart

    Next comes 1971 The CUNNING and SCHEMING Hindu utilises this once in a lifetime oppurtunity and SMASHES Pakistan

    So Pakistan becomes MAD and looses its MIND forever

    Now pakistan wants revenge and starts this proxy war to bleed India

    The rest is history and in 2011 we know which country stands where

    So much for the Martial race theory
     
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    Illusive Senior Member Senior Member

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    They are taught to hate us, thats all i can say. Its embedded in their mind at a tiny age. Change their history books and you'll see a little difference in attitude of the future generation.
     
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    Becuae, if they don't hate us, they'd be forced to hate their ancestors, we are the easier targets.


    Off Topic(but couldn't resist): This is a Pakistani guy's comment in the same thread:

     
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  7. ashdoc

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    pankaj nema Senior Member Senior Member

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    @ ashdoc I was unable to find this thread in this site [ trdefence.com ] that you mentioned .Could you please provide the links
     
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    @ ashdoc Thanks for providing the links
     
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    Illusive Senior Member Senior Member

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    These people are even double standard......they talk about hindu suppression of muslims in India, how much they feel for the Indian muslims, but when China did that, they said its their internal affair and that they shouldn't interfere, they even say that its the ughyrs are at fault for creating unrest.
     
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    They are merely confused, their education and common sense contradict each other.
    Pity them.

    Yeah and we all know what a great time the Mohajirs are having.

    Its called "getting the butt kicked to oblivion" syndrome.

    As BW sir said they are the Thekedars of Islam, it is their job to decide who is a good Muslim or not.
     
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    You forgot to add 'self appointed', the muslim world don't give a damn, infact they have spoiled the image of muslims, more than anybody.
     
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    hit&run Elite Member Elite Member

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    Long story short
    Link

    Please someone refer this Book to turkey forum. It has all the answers.
     
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