Why Pakistan bombing their own country?

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  1. Samar Rathi

    Samar Rathi Regular Member

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    Pakistan’s military said it killed 28 local and foreign militants in airstrikes Sunday in the volatile northwest, as reports emerged that civilians had died in previous strikes.

    The bombing Sunday in the heavily forested Shawal Valley was part of an offensive that began last month to drive Taliban fighters and other militants from their stronghold in North Waziristan, a remote region that borders Afghanistan.

    Residents say a bombing raid Friday killed nine women, six children and two male civilians.

    The military had ordered the entire population of North Waziristan to leave ahead of the offensive, but some families stayed behind — because they were too poor to move, had sick family members or did not think their area would be targeted.

    Residents say most militants fled ahead of the offensive.

    — Reuters

    TUNISIA
    Crackdown ordered over troops’ killings
    Authorities in Tunisia say all mosques and media outlets calling for jihad are to be immediately closed in a bid to end a radical movement that they fear will derail the nation’s transition to democracy.

    A statement Sunday announced the closing of mosques operating outside the control of the Religious Affairs Ministry and places of worship that celebrated the killings last week of 15 Tunisian soldiers near the Algerian border. Two army posts were attacked by an extremist group thought to be linked to al-Qaeda’s North Africa arm.

    The government also announced the closing of unlicensed TV and radio stations that call for jihad and declare some people infidels.

    On Saturday, police arrested about 60 suspected Islamist radicals in sweeps through numerous regions.

    Tunisia is struggling to cope with the rise of Islamist militants in the wake of the 2011 revolt that ousted President Zine el-Abidine Ben Ali.

    — Associated Press

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    World Digest: July 20, 2014 - The Washington Post
     
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  3. Illusive

    Illusive Senior Member Senior Member

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    Just like they didn't care about bengalis in then east pakistan, they don't care for pashtuns. Baloch are already rebelling and Sindhis don't look very happy either.

    Its all done for the welfare of pakistan aka punjab.
     
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    Funny thing is no one cares in the world too :|

    What's with this hypocrisy ?
     
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    Illusive Senior Member Senior Member

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    Cause its muslims killing muslims, the arabs wont care, west is pre occupied with russia and ukraine, who else is left.
     
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    they never own this country. till today pakis are suffering from identity crisis. they have not decided who they are???a former hindus, tazik, uzbek, arabs, phalana,dhimkana
     
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    angeldude13 Lestat De Lioncourt Senior Member

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    begherat???
     
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    jus Senior Member Senior Member

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    Stop this Non sense
    Por***tan is not a country it is broadly 4 rogues fighting with each other
    Terrorist ............ Pakjabi
    Rebel .....................Sindh
    Independent......... Balochistan
    Blood sucker........ Pakthun


    So Terrorist Pakjabi killing Blood sucker,Rebels &Independent 'coz he have a Made in China WEAPONS FINANCED by US/KSA ,once they stopped financing they first kill Pakjabi later THEMSELVES :thumb:
     
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    BANNU: When Pakistan Air Force jets rained down missiles on a village in North Waziristan last week, it was described as yet another victory over Taliban insurgents in an ongoing military offensive.
    Now a new account has emerged of the killing of dozens of women and children in the air strikes, sparking anger over rising civilian casualties and fears that a new generation of radicals is being created.


    Zarb-e-Azb operation: North Waziristan residents allege civilian deaths in offensive – The Express Tribune
     
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    Was there any doubt that the jihadi pak-fauj's tall claims of having killed no civilians in their strikes was just that, a dollop of Bajaur Bullsh*t served with a side of miramshah make-believe?

    The question in my mind however, is, when is this going to come back and bite them in their pa'astaan? I just hope I have my popcorn and beer ready by then.
     
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    This is propaganda of west, and first news was by reported by Washington post, surly some body is hearting in pant-gone as pak army is successfully eliminating TTP scums, and there co-sponsored are now trying to degrade pak army efforts.
    Pak army have already warned the locals to equate the area and all the remaining will be dealed as enemy
     
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    Your army has no authority to declare any remaining civilians as enemy or terrorists.
     
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    yea we have no authority but we deal them as enemy, we dont need any permission from any one, after waziristan huge army action will started in balochistan too
     
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    Replace 'we' with 'Israel' and read your statement again.
     
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    there is big difference in we and israel, we have arranged the facilities for all IDPs, also the common people of waziristan are happy as they are ruled by khans with fake islamic laws, on the other hand more then 500 innocent civilians has been killed by terrorists Israeli army
     
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    angeldude13 Lestat De Lioncourt Senior Member

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    :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
     
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    I see no difference. You are terming those people who have not moved out as enemy of the state and their death are not listed as civilian deaths, which the article correctly points out.

    And which you call western propaganda.

    You also say you needn't need permission from anybody.

    I see your action more heinous, at least Israel accepts that there are civilian causalities, where as you don't.

    We simply don't know how many civilians turned into terrorists in their after life after bombs landed into their compound in Pakistan.
     
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    yaar, at least we have gave them an option, now media is also present in waziristan neather locle channel have reported this news yet, so this news might be not credible
     
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    Just nitpicking, about your statement you made. The world is silent because you are going against the bad guys. And thus collateral is being accepted. But you can't silence everyone. These voices will gain shriller tone with time due to different objectives.

    So, civilian causalities are bound to happen, and it's happening. Couple of article can't have much effect, unless your govt. is spineless.
     
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    Ok tell me what should we have to do in order to eliminate the terrorists from our territory, on the other hand you guys are blaming pakistan for terrorist safe house and terrorist training land, now when we are elaminating them you still complainig why we are bombing our own people...... ;-)
     
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    When USA launches targeted drone strikes on Pakistan then according to pakis mostly civilians die.
    But when Pakis launch combined aerial bombing,artillery shelling and army attack then magically there are no civilian casualties.
     

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