Why meat ban: Devendra Fadnavis replies to Rajdeep's open letter

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    Dear Rajdeep,

    Normally I don’t reply to every open letter by ‘senior’ journalists but this time I thought if I didn’t, the Goebbels law — speak what is untrue several times over and it becomes the truth — may prevail. Your letter is an excellent example of how a section of the media, without having sound knowledge, bashes a government with an agenda.

    Let me bring some clarity to the first issue you have raised. My state government did not take the decision to ban meat. Not a single new order went from the government to any local body. The Congress government in 2004 took the decision to close a slaughter-house for two days in Paryushan Parva. It was conveyed to all municipal corporations then. Since then all municipal corporations including Mira-Bhaindar started implementing it. Additionally municipal corporations like Mumbai and Mira-Bhaindar adopted resolutions to ban it for additional days within their own powers, which in the case of Mumbai dates back to 1994. Surprisingly, none of you ever objected to it until we came to power. Obviously you were comfortable with the pseudo-secular image of the previous government, howsoever corrupt and non-performing it was.

    It’s quite possible that you know this but it doesn’t suit your agenda.

    Read | Food governance or good governance: Open letter to Mr Fadnavis

    In the case of Rakesh Maria, you seem to be confused. Your post-script says the Sheena Bora murder case should not have assumed the kind of importance it was accorded by the media. Then why did you choose to write on it, linking it with the transfer of the city police chief? A police chief is not an investigating officer but just a supervisory authority. I would like to tell you that the practice of promoting senior people, a few days in advance, is not new. Such decisions are taken keeping in mind the objective to let the new one who is going to take over understand the prevailing situation. The months of September and October are full of festivals, including the Ganesh Festival, Eid celebrations and Navratri.

    If the government thought that instead of changing a police commissioner in the midst of festivities it was better to put a new person in place before the festive season started, what’s so wrong about it? Although I believe that officers have no caste and religion the point could also have been raised as to why Maria was made commissioner of police, Mumbai, sidelining two senior and equally decorated officers like Ahmad Javed, a person from a minority community, and Vijay Kamble, a person from a backward community. However, I would say that the government at that point of time thought that Maria was better suited for the situation.

    Your take on sedition can be termed a classic product of a biased mind. I want to ask you whether the state is expected to convey a decision given by the hon’ble high court to the police or not? Again, not a single decision has been taken by our government in this regard. In one of the cases in the high court, an affidavit was filed by the then Congress-led government and the court delivered a detailed judgment interpreting the scope and ambit of the applicability of sedition, and also directed to convey it to the police. The department made a faithful translation of the judgment in Marathi and conveyed it to all the police stations via an office circular. Every single item in the circular is just a translation of the judgment. Mr Sardesai, you may not want to go through such details to understand the issue just because you wish to pursue your leftist agenda vigorously and passionately.

    It’s apparent how much pain it causes you to mention a word about the water conservation initiative of our government — the flagship programme of Jalyukta Shivar Yojna — to make Maharashtra drought-free. It is a programme that has become most successful. The generous contributions by people — more than Rs 300 crore — have helped us to execute nearly 100,000 works in 6,000 villages within six months. The results are evident. Despite the scanty rainfall, the villages are boasting distributed water storages and increased water tables. It was lauded as a game changer by the ‘Jalpurush’ of India, Rajendra Singh, at the Stockholm Water Conference. This programme will provide moisture security to the farmers and assure crop sustainability by mitigating the effects of climate change.

    It’s really sad to see that people like you get disturbed by an imaginary situation that there won’t be a piece of meat in your platter for two days when my annadata is taking extreme steps because he has no food to eat. That is why the state has decided to implement a food security scheme for six million farmers by giving them wheat at Rs 2 per kg and rice at Rs 3 per kg. The infamous legacy of farmer suicides, which we inherited from 15 years of bad governance, is a challenge that doesn’t let me sleep. But the initiatives started by our government, I’m sure, will deliver results in due course.

    Whether there is a ban on meat or not, a common man expects roti or rice in his plate. And I am more concerned about it than anything else. Mr Sardesai, the content of your letter can be part of your profession but the resolve in my reply is my mission and I will accomplish it. My mantra of life is ‘perform or perish’ and time alone would decide my destiny.

    Yours sincerely and without malice.

    Devendra Fadnavis is chief minister, Maharashtra. The views expressed are personal.

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/analy...ply-to-rajdeep-sardesai/article1-1392248.aspx
     
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    Personally, I oppose this meat ban drama.
    Who are they to tell me what I have to eat and what not ?
    And, I cannot change my food habits for the sake of someone else politics.
    Meat ban is a big political drama !!!
     
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    This is not a ban from a government, this is a usual practice done by municipal corporations since 2004 when congress issued notification to all municipal corporations to ban the sell of meat.

    Well, Jains are one of the smallest real minority in India, if they politely ask us to stop killing animals & stop eating the same for specific period of time, can't we respect them ??

    Is it too much they're asking ?? this lines are worth standing applause. Media & even we are forgetting the real issues. Similar bans are implied during Eid, this is about understanding & respect each other, without any concrete reasons if they're banning something permanently then it's worth asking about our rights.
     
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    Municipals are not part of the government?

    Today if we do something like this for Jains as they are minority, tomorrow the Christians will come asking for a ten day government holiday during Christmas. Is it okay? Muslims will come and ask 15% quota in all sectors? Is that okay?
    Will you guys be nice to them as they are asking politely?
    There are several million ways to prove our respect to another religion/faith than interfering in another's diet.

    I didn't think Maharashtra politicians were highly uncivilized.
     
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    @I_PLAY_BAD Dude, meat ban is a dick measuring contest . I am supporting it as part of that, not part of my belief or anything.

    Besides, you people have no problem with TN govt banning maggi but you are riled up about beef ban? :rolleyes:
     
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    Municipal Corporations are like state governments at local level to ease the development & ruling process in big cities so decisions can be made as early as possible to sort out local issues.
    Here, fadnavis government didn't notify them to ban the meat, they acted by their own. In 2004, congress government did notify all Municipal Corporations to ban the meat. Then after nobody issued any notification, but these corporations continued doing so, even increased the duration of ban because it suits the locality.

    There should be a merit in demand, asking anyone not to do violence is actually worth following whole life while asking for quota is not at all a religious sentiment issue. This is very much easy way to prove your respect to another religion lol. If you don't eat meat for 2 days, mar nahi jaoge ya fir tumhari faith ko kuch nahi hoga. Let me take it to the next level, if you're a Hindu, you shouldn't be eating meat at all.

    The point is about hypocrisy & timing of libtards, the problem is the genuine people are also misled by this fkers. Nobody had problem till now, suddenly such hue & cry is total quitiyapa if you ask me.
     
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    Bro, you cannot compare Maggi ban with meat ban.
    Both are entirely different. Maggi was banned for a different reason.

    I would have supported the meat ban if they did it for the same unhygienic preparation or health reasons.

    There are several ways to measure our dicks. Do those. Abolish quotas, enforce strict beef bans....do those. Why ban meat and unnecessarily draw the ire from unaware Hindus and get bad name ?
     
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    Hindus should not eat non-veg ? Sir, where are you ? Our religion and its practices evolved like other religions did.
    If someone tries to enforce the old practices then they have similarities with what ISIS is doing today.

    Yes, presstitutes will use this to attack the government. It is what they do. Even if they lift the ban presstitutes will start supporting jains' hurt feelings.

    BJP government should have stayed this ban. It must have used this opportunity to gain support from the majority meat eating Hindus. Support from Jains won't take BJP anywhere.

    This is my point.
     
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    See, you can evolve in Hinduism then why so much hue & cry ?? Can't you just (I would like to use this word) TOLERATE this minor demand ?? We have tolerated worse & this is actually a part of our religion, I'm a hindu & I don't eat non-veg. And I'm sure I'm not hurting others sentiments by telling them not to eat meat for specific time. This is not a permanent ban for god sake, can't we do this little so a minority can feel proud of our country's true values ??

    Fk our media, they're whore.

    Jains and many other minorities actually believe that BJP is the only party that can understand & respect them, this is us Hindus & that also the liberal ones becoming intolerant here- the irony. BJP must support these minorities otherwise who would support them ?? Congress ?? Fk no.
     
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    Yes and the difference is that beef ban has "communalism" tag attached to it.

    Maggi ban was as retarded as it can get. Besides, I will ask the same question you asked, who the hell is the government to decide if I can or not eat poison?(even if maggi is poison?)
    The only Hindus giving a big deal are the uninformed RW and the leftist losers. Leftist losers are not gonna be satisfied anyway. So let's not give a big damn about it.

    Regarding other measures, let the Hindu morons stop being retarded first and let them bring in a strong RW govt. Then we can even ban deoband
     
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    The same can be argued for any RW policy bjp might pursue because of the large number of leftist losers among hindus
     
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    If we do this small adjustment then it will pave way for larger adjustment demands from Christians and Muslims which will disturb communal tolerance hugely is my concern.
    Rest is for your judgement.
     
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    And who is more RW than BJP ?
    BJP must start behaving like a RW rather than being over-secular to beat Congress in that race.
     
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    When it does by banning beef, people like you ,who support bjp , come with guns blazing on why it is wrong.

    Seriously, when was the last time bjp voters/Hindus supported bjp when it took a hindutva stand?


    Bjp is not rw but if we want the rw to grow, we have to tolerate bjp or even encourage it. Only then will politicians understand that there is political capital to be exploited in RW and only then will we get actual right wing party
     
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    Communalism tag was attached by the so called leftists hindus whom you bashed.
    India is a hindu majority country and the majority's religious freedom has to be respected.

    Please don't compare eating meat with poison.
    Is there a connection ?
    Poison, we will die, meat ban, we will create social ripples.
    Which is lethal ?
     
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    Free criticism of religion is itself a tenet of Hinduism which has been already fucked in favor of being inoffensive to tolerate Chrislamists . so no I don't think anyone is going to make any concessions to chrislamists
     
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    Sure I can. Who are you to say I can't eat poison when I am not allowed to say you can't eat meat?

    Regarding social ripples- the only ripple it is creating is among leftists and muzzies who bjp should not give a damn about anyway

    : I am a non vegetarian. Despite that, I support it as part of dick measuring contest. It is so plain and simple . if eating meat is somehow part of mocking Hinduism, then it becomes a part of identity politics. So banning it is an identity statement and not "food, care, people, hygiene, animal rights " or any other bs . that's why I am supporting ban- to assert Hindu identity.
     
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    I raised objection on banning Mutton, Chicken etc which we Hindus consume regularly.
    Beef is not the only 'Meat' !!!!
    By banning meat they altogether ban the items which I listed also right ???
    I have been misunderstood :)
     
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    Okay....
    (30 character rule !!! Grrrrrrr)
     
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    What you don't understand is that the meat ban is temp for jain festival, if I am not mistaken. Only beef ban is permanent.


    For all the bs we do to appease chrislamists, I think we can sacrifice more than just eating meat for a few days for our own blood and breed- Jains.
     

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