Why is West Bengal so backward?

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  1. parijataka

    parijataka Senior Member Senior Member

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    West Bengal Shame

    When this is the situation in West Bengal our media celebrities and intellectuals a large number of whom belong to Bangla bhodrolok have eyes and ears only for Gujarat. Also, lefties and communists should ponder why 34 years of Communist rule hv turned West Bengal into s***hole like this.

    110 women dumped in open after sterilisation

    In Kolkata Over 100 semi-conscious women were dumped in a field after a mass sterilisation camp at a rural health centre in Malda district of West Bengal because there was no room in the hospital, medical officials said on Thursday.

    The Manikchak Rural Health Centre, where the family-planning procedure was carried out on Wednesday, was not equipped to accommodate such a large number of patients, said attending nurses and health workers.

    The semi-conscious women were dumped in a field outside the hospital, the nurses alleged. The programme at the 24-bed hospital was organised by Deputy Medical Officer (Health) Dr Joydeep Mazumdar under the centre’s National Rural Health Mission scheme.

    While Mazumdar and five other doctors operated on 110 women, the rules allow not more than 4 sterilisations per doctor a day. Some women were sent home in rickshaws before the mandatory observation period, said a source.

    Asha Thakur, 37, who travelled more than 100 km for the birth control procedure, described the experience as hellish. “The doctors were abusive and treated us like animals. All they were concerned with was to finish the operation as quickly as possible,” she said.

    Chief Medical Officer (Health), Malda Dr B Mishra said abandoning the women in an open space was inhuman. Minister of Women & Child Development and Social Welfare Sabitri Mitra said, “This is sheer negligence by local health officials. This is not the way to conduct a sterilisation camp. We have ordered a probe into the incident.”
     
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  3. shom

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    Re: West Bengal Shame

    Act of shame for the country,,,,,
     
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    Re: West Bengal Shame

    West Bengal is well on its way to become the new Sick state of India:thumb:

    Communism and Socialism for the win:yey:
     
  5. arnabmit

    arnabmit Homo Communis Indus Senior Member

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    Re: West Bengal Shame

    Mamata is too busy putting up trident lamps all over the city and tonguelashing everyone to even address the actual issues.

    Soon Mamata will realize that she is in power not because she is wanted, but because CPIM couldn't be tolerated any more.

    As soon as a good leader surfaces from any party, Mamata will go the same way CPIM did.
     
  6. LordOfTheUnderworlds

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    I know the immediate response of Indians on internet is usually socialism, secularism, commies etc but can someone elaborate a little more. Consider this:

    GDP per capita 2011-12 (nominal)-
    West Bengal : Rs. 54,830
    India : 60,603
    Kerala : 83,725

    Literacy-
    WB : 77.1%
    India : 74%
    Kerala : 93.9%

    West Bengal is among poorest states of India. But unlike the BIMARU states which are land locked, feudal, with strong caste system; if my textbooks were correct, Bengal was amongst first regions to have social reform movements, has a coastline and harbours, and has a city like Kolkata which is not just one of the biggest metro cities, but was in fact India's Capital city in colonial times.
    Even the literacy rate is not impressive. In fact communist states usually achieve a high literacy rate very fast and WB had communist rule over decades. Look at China or even Indian state of Kerala.
    If it is because of communist rule, or high percentage of muslim population, even Kerala has these two factors, but it has been a model state for long time as far as literacy and Human Development Indices are concerned and Kerala's GDP is much higher.
    I don't know much about internal politics of these states, so any information will be helpful.
     
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    Good topic.
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    You can blame Communists for the poverty of West Bengal. They destroyed a strong industry in WB and increased unionism among the labourers and workers and virtually driven away most companies and at the same time all kinds of investment stopped coming to WB due to this.

    On the other hand, you cannot compare Kerala to WB in poverty because despite lack of industries in Kerala there is a strong NRI community in gulf region that sustains Kerala economy via remittances. Much of the strong background of literacy and human development has its roots in the kingdoms of Travancore and Cochin whose kings were progressive.
     
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    Sir, what can i say about this as its the reality of Bengal.the truth is that Bengal lost its way to progress during those 34 years of incompetent rule by the left front!what they really did was to make sure that politics and unionism had entered in literally every arena of our society.during the period from 1980 to 2008 more than 4,000 factories closed down due to the high handedness behavior of the militant unions.
    when the Left Front formed Govt. in 1977 they promised to make radical land reforms to help our farmers which they actually did in the first 5-7 years.but all hell started breaking loose after a couple of years as the members of the ruling left Govt. increasingly became corrupt and indulged in various activities which harmed the progress and prosperity of Bengal in the long run.because of the militant nature of the left worker's unions there were hardly any investments made during the 80s and in the early part of 90s.the one man who was responsible to a certain extent for all these events was the former C.M. of Bengal Mr.Jyoti Basu!if he wanted he could have easily checked these things and could have paved the way for progress and economic growth of our state but he chose to do nothing which really made the difference as he was our C.M. for almost 23 years(i.e. from 1977-2000).
    the next C.M. Mr.Buddhadeb Bhattacharya was a man who was willing to do something for his state and started inviting foreign investments in the state but he has opposed by his own party members as there were quite a no. of inter-party rivalry going in the C.P.I.M. at that time.
    so for me these are some of the reasons which culminated in hampering the economic growth and prosperity of Bengal!:ranger:
     
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    West Bengal is the most feudal state in pre-independent India this is my post to Brigadier Ray here
    http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...va-national-security-issue-10.html#post709319
     
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    How much the infestation and Islamization from the Dalladeshi's affected WB's economy?
     
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    All thanks to the Bengali bhadralok!!

    Kerela would almost be the same like WB, but thanks to the big remittances it receive: Economy of Kerala - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    A calculation on top of my head puts remittances at around 20% of Kerala's GDP. Remove that out from per capita and you would be around: 56,000 for Kerala. So, communists in both state have not done much!
     
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    I can think of various reasons for backwardness of WB:
    • Loss of East Bengal, a source for raw jute, that killed the Jute Industry of West Bengal.
    • Militant trade unionism.
    • License Raj.
    • Freight Equalization Policy (this took away the advantage of WB, which is an Iron and Coal rich state).
    • Population density (influx of refugees in 1947 followed by a second influx in 1971).

    Finally, GDP is hardly a reliable metric to measure prosperity. GDP is dependent on Money Supply and Money Velocity, and a higher GDP state does not necessarily make that state more prosperous than a lower GDP state. So, while it is true that WB is rather backward, to come to that conclusion based on GDP figures is false. Finally, as @Daredevil mentioned, Kerala's economy is buttressed by foreing remittances, but their GDP has nothing to do with Keralites living in the Gulf states. Their earnings will contribute towards the GNP of Kerala, not GDP.
     
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    The part in bold is simply absurd.

    Here are the definitions:
    Gross Domestic Product (GDP) Definition | Investopedia
    Gross National Product (GNP) Definition | Investopedia
     
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    Wrong, without education Kerala would have been on the same level as WB!
     
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    Kerala is not as communist as many think. Privatization in education and healthcare is advancing rapidly as well. And much of the work was done by the post Independence governments!
     
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    1) No governance since the last 36yrs, till date
    2) Trade Unions and Harmad Bahini
    3) Refugees from Bangladesh
    4) Huge import of BPL population from Bihar & Orissa, Kolkata being the nearest metro
    5) Majorly Agriculture based economy
    6) Grassroot level corruption
    7) Bengalis prefer jobs much more than business
    8) On a lighter note, Bengalis talk a lot, but does very little.
     
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    +1 to blaming the Bhodraloks. They're the reason why Bangladesh even exists as a country.

    Also, Communists being elected multiple times is a reflection of the society.
     
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    Kerala is good inspite of the communists not because of it,

    A large part of that is due to the Travancore monarchy which had an enlightened (Hindu) rule on the populace.
     
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    Easy to target the soft Bengali bhadralok for all WB's plight, isn't it?

     
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    FEP is a valid excuse only for the states that are landlocked like Bihar, Jharkhand, Chattisgarh etc. Because of FEP, the investors wanted states with access to sea. WB had access to sea.But still investors did not prefer it. Why ?
     
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