Why is Russia Mute on Modi?

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Putin congratulates Narendra Modi

There ya go.
But I agree, I find it a little surprising that there was no phone call (esp when others like Japan,Israel,UK,Aus and many others have called).

Is it normal protocol for others to call up? I havent really noticed this before tbh.
 
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Russia maybe concerned if there is a change in the defense sector. They knew the rates and schemes of
Past government now they will have to start all over again and possibly really have to compete
To make the sale.
 

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russians are heavily preoccupied with other pressing matters (ukraine crisis). No matter whether russia congratulates modi or not, Russia will always remain a friend of India i believe...
 

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There is a suspicious silence by Moscow on Modi's ascent to power. No congratulatory phone-calls by its leaders, not even a 100-word article on Russia Today website, or 30-second piece on RT television news.
  • Does this confirm Subramanian Swamy's assertion that Sonia was a KGB plant into Indian polity?
  • Is Russia worried that with Modi's pitch for indigenisation of large-scale small-arms manufacturing, and most low-tech military equipment, and with VK Singh (advocate of indigenous development/procurement) winning, Russia's exports to India will not only be starved, but also it could face competition from India in worldwide small-arms market?
  • Does Israel's Benjamin Netanyahu giving Modi a congratulatory call even before the first leads were registered as wins on the 16th, indicate that NDA is preferring Israel to Russia for high-tech equipment imports?
Sonia is a vatican implant, KGB on the other hand is under the Russian Orthodox church. Vatican and ROC have a love hate relationship. Quite possible that most of what you say is true.
 

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Please stop calling people names derived from the word "retard."
How about if its used in verb or adjective form? eg : Thats a retarded statement.

@Singh

are these kintergarden rules for real? I can understand you having a threshold for abuse, but gentle sparring. You should wear frocks, the whole lot of you.
 
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My argument has nothing to do with geopolitical alignment, only weapons-procurement.
Swami has to prove what favours she has offered to Russia being in power; rather her government has embraced USA big time like no one did before. Swami at times gets carried away and can invent theories on the hoof. I have yet to see one single Russian procurement for our forces being not justified fairly.

India's industrial complex for military products is as good as our non military complex. Why non military complex hasn't reached to the level of developed nation where Russia has no stakes in; to plan sabotage in connivance with Sonia Gandhi or any other leader for that matter.
 

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Putin to Modi: Together we'll scale new heights


Russian President Vladimir Putin hopes he and Narendra Modi can push bilateral ties to new heights, just as the two countries did last time when BJP was in power.

In his message of congratulations to Mr. Modi, the Russian leader recalled that it was with a BJP government that he had signed the "historic" Declaration of Strategic Partnership.

Mr. Putin "highly praised the traditionally friendly relations between Russia and India that are based on the Declaration of Strategic Partnership, which was signed when BJP was in power and which defined the course of bilateral cooperation for years ahead," according to the Kremlin.

Mr. Putin stressed that the Declaration had "historic significance," as borne out by "the impressive results of productive joint work" since its signing in 2000 and "large-scale mutually beneficial projects accomplished in the economic, military-technical, scientific, cultural and humanitarian spheres."

Mr. Putin voiced confidence that together with Mr. Modi they "will be able to multiply the achievements of the past period," the Kremlin said.



Putin to Modi: Together we'll scale new heights - The Hindu
 

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But still Putin hasnt called up Modi personally like other world leaders have, has he?
 

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How about if its used in verb or adjective form? eg : Thats a retarded statement.

@Singh

are these kintergarden rules for real? I can understand you having a threshold for abuse, but gentle sparring. You should wear frocks, the whole lot of you.
"That's a retarded statement."

Here, it is an adjective (participle to be precise), not a verb. Attacking the message is fine. Attacking the messenger is not. If it is repeated multiple times, people will get the impression it is ok to use it. Whether it comes across as a KG level rule, or graduate level, just know that it is not ok.
 
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How about if its used in verb or adjective form? eg : Thats a retarded statement.

@Singh

are these kintergarden rules for real? I can understand you having a threshold for abuse, but gentle sparring. You should wear frocks, the whole lot of you.
Now that's funny.

 
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Your information is incorrect. Prez. Putin did send congratulatory message to PM Modi. Mr. Modi twitted very warm and cordial reply to Mr Putin.
Mr. Putin is extremely busy today in Beijing, China signing huge trade and military deals with China.
Russia and China are finalizing a broad strategic partnership....just like Russia and India already has had for decades.
Tomorrow morning, World's biggest oil/gas pipeline deals is being signed between Russia and China. Total cost: a whopping 400 billion US dollars.
There is a suggestion from Mr. Putin that this same pipeline should be further extended south to India in the future.
Trade between Russia and China in 2013= 90 billion dollars.....plan to increase to 100 billion by 2015 ...and to 200 billion by 2020.
Trade between Russia and India 12 billion in 2013...plan to increase to 20 billion by 2015...and to 50 billion by 2020.
Trade between China and india in 2013= approx. 100 billion..plan to increase ...unknown yet.
And by the way, Bilat. trade between China and Paki in 2013= 2.4 billion dollars.
Bilat trade between Russia and Paki in 2013....practically ZERO. THINK ABOUT THESE FACTS and Interpret the news ! Follow the money...nothing talks louder than money.
 
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Don't get carried away by RT. RT is aimed as counter propaganda targeted at the audience of BBC and CNN. Russia, moreover, is preoccupied with the west incited Ukro-Nazi supported coup d'etat in Kiev.

The Russians had already hailed Modi's earlier victory and, Murli Manohar Joshi was conferred the Russian "Order of Friendship."

What India needs to do is exploit Russia's tussle with the west, support it politically and economically, and at the same time, try to get Russia to be more involved in setting up infrastructure in India for critical military hardware, with ToT, for things such as turbines, rocket engines, radars, metallurgy, and aviation design, and India should also try to get hold of fissile and conventional fuel sourced from Russia at cheaper costs.
Absolutely correct. I second this.
 

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"That's a retarded statement."

Here, it is an adjective (participle to be precise), not a verb. Attacking the message is fine. Attacking the messenger is not. If it is repeated multiple times, people will get the impression it is ok to use it. Whether it comes across as a KG level rule, or graduate level, just know that it is not ok.
You have a comprehension disability? I asked
How about if its used in verb or adjective form? eg : Thats a retarded statement.
I did not ask you for a grammar lesson. We all have our personal copies of Wren and Martin.

Instead I am pointing out that you having had an abusive childhood reflects in your pathetically stupid, overt and covert moderation, which has for the last 2 years soured this forum plenty. Reflect. We are adults here, you need to understand that your role is not that of a class leader.

Every good debate on this forum has you pissing irrelevance all over it.
 

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Trade between China and india in 2013= approx. 100 billion..plan to increase ...unknown yet.
the volume was not that much actually last year...

India's trade deficit with China after 11 months of this year has reached a record $29.5 billion, exceeding last year's annual figure, according to newly released trade data.

The numbers underline the sharp decline in once-burgeoning trade, which reached $74 billion in 2011 when China became India's biggest trading partner.

The following year, a 20 per cent slump in India's exports, largely on account of iron ore mining bans, coupled with the global slowdown, resulted in a 10 per cent decline as trade fell to $66.50 billion, even as both countries announced an ambitious $100 billion target for 2015.
Doubts over achieving target

The latest figures have cast doubt on whether that target may be achieved. During the period under reference, even as China's trade with the rest of Asia as well as with its major Western trading partners has picked up, trade with India has remained in a slump, suggesting that causes were more structural rather than a reflection of global trends.

After 11 months of this year, India's exports to China reached only $14.87 billion out of total bilateral trade of $59.24 billion, according to data released this week by the China's General Administration of Customs.

Trade between the two countries was down by 2.7 per cent year-on-year, even as China's overall global trade rose 7.7 per cent. This was driven by an export sector that has continued to show signs of revival, growing 12.7 per cent and marking the second straight month of rising exports.

Among China's biggest trading partners, trade with the U.S. was up by 7.6 per cent. China's trade with Southeast Asian countries showed the biggest growth, growing 10.9 per cent.

Border trade up 23 per cent, still minuscule India's border trade with China, while still at a minuscule $14 million, grew 23.3 per cent last year, local authorities in the Tibet Autonomous Region (TAR) were quoted as saying by the official Xinhua news agency this week.

Trade has grown more than 50 times since 2006, when the Nathu La pass, between Sikkim and the Shigatse prefecture in Tibet, was reopened. Most of the trade is made up of imports of Indian goods into Tibet, which reached $12 million last year. Authorities said the border market is open for only six months of the year — opening on May 1 and closing on November 30.


Jan-Nov 2013: around 60 billion dollars...

the highest figure of the trade between two nations is $74 billion of year 2011...
 

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Some leaders called informally to congratulate PM designate Modi but some are strict on protocol. I would be worried if Putin doesn't call Modi even after swearing in. ( Even if Putin hasn't called as I write)

If I remember it well a very senior Russian dignitary had called to congratulate Modi when he became the CM Gujarat, for the third time.

So, I feel there is not more to it than protocol.
 

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Everybody loves Modi

China: Biggest Loser In India's "Modislide" Election - Forbes
Gordon G. Chang, Contributor

Who wouldn't love the Indian story now? Modi's bigger-than-expected win means he will have the majority, at least in the lower house of Parliament, to accomplish what his predecessor could only dream of. The incoming leader has the power to remake the Indian economy, and the betting is that he will do so. Already, he is being called "SuperModi" and the Margaret Thatcher of India. Indians speak of the "Modi wave."

Modi himself is feeding the extraordinary hype. He is not only talking about "shining India," a nod to a past BJP slogan, but has also proclaimed our era to be "India's century."

This century is already supposed to belong to China, but that pronouncement is not heard as often now. China's economy, the motor of its rise, is sputtering and on the edge of an historic failure. At the same time, Beijing is intensifying its discriminatory investigations of multinationals. Last week, for instance, authorities accused Mark Reilly, the former head of GlaxoSmithKline's China unit, of bribery while largely letting domestic corporate malefactors operate unimpeded.

In a deteriorating economy, Beijing's blame-the-outlanders policy may be good politics, but it is very bad economics, especially in the long run. China, unfortunately, is unlearning the wisdom of the Chinese leader who launched reforms at the end of the 1970s, Deng Xiaoping.

Manmohan Singh, once called India's Deng, has now left office in failure. Among his shortcomings, he was not able to open up his economy. At the moment, the environment for foreign companies in China is still way better than that in the subcontinent. Yet it is trend lines that are important for investment flows. In China, things are getting worse for foreigners, and in India they are going to get a whole lot better. A central tenet of Modinomics, as it is now called, is that large businesses create jobs, prosperity, and a better society.

Just ask Walmart. Modi ran on a platform affirming existing rules that keep foreign companies out of India's retail market, a sector in desperate need of modernization, but the plank is largely thought to be a bow to political expediency. In any event, it did not deter the world's largest retailer from upping its involvement in India. In anticipation of a Modi win, the Bentonville, Arkansas-based behemoth last month announced plans to open 50 new wholesale stores there as well as grow its e-commerce operations. You can be sure that Walmart did not do this with the expectation that it would forever be kept from participating directly in India's $500 billion consumer market.

Analysts point out that Modi is an "old friend" of China, but he may be the worst thing to happen to that country in a long time. At a moment when the Chinese economy is teetering, he is indirectly giving it a shove in the wrong direction. The "giant sucking sound" you will soon hear is money, once headed for China's shores, on its way to India's instead.
 

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Your information is incorrect. Prez. Putin did send congratulatory message to PM Modi. Mr. Modi twitted very warm and cordial reply to Mr Putin.
He did that on the 19th. The thread was started on the 18th. Modi won on the 16th, and most important world leaders had already congratulated him on that day. I wouldn't have bothered if RT hadn't even posted a news article (≠ op-ed) on Modi's victory.
 

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Everybody loves Modi

China: Biggest Loser In India's "Modislide" Election - Forbes
Gordon G. Chang, Contributor
The amount of bullshit that article is full of can solve the global energy crisis. Modi has several friends in China, and after the US shun in the mid 2000's, he nurtured friendships with several Chinese businessmen and politicians. It's China, more than US, which stands to benefit from Modi, because he is not a status-quoist. Gordon Chang has its head stuck up an elephant's anus.
 

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