Why is India still shy to raise the issue of Gilgit Baltistan?

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  1. Yusuf

    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

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    Why has India still been shy to actively pursue its legitimate agenda on the issue of GB? Te Chinis are merrily working their way in the area. Why none of the opposition parties appreciate te dangers on this issue? Why doesn't the BJP come out with an open policy agenda as part of their manifesto?

    Why the silence? It's killing.
     
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  3. Daredevil

    Daredevil On Vacation! Administrator

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    A message needs to be sent to China that this is a disputed territory. If they don't listen, then India should be free to drill in SCS disputed territories.

    Our foreign policy is at a low point after UPA 2 came into power. And it is even more weak kneed when it comes to Pakistan and China. We need some tough guys as MEAs not the fly-by-night operators like Kurshid, Krishna etc.
     
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    arnabmit Homo Communis Indus Senior Member

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    My questions exactly!

    :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty:

    BJP raised the issue once and then forgot about it immediately thereafter!

    BJP appeals to government to intervene in Gilgit-Baltistan - Times Of India
     
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    Tronic Stars and Ambassadors Stars and Ambassadors

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    What can India possibly do short of war, to keep the Chinese out?
     
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    nrj Stars and Ambassadors Stars and Ambassadors

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    You handover critical ministries to politicians who are also made busy in domestic politics, party politics and also party administration.

    When will they get time to look into matters related to their position in Government of India ??

    Khurshid, Antony, Sibal, Kamal Nath.

    You need professionals who will devote their day doing work which they are obliged to do out of designation held. Someone like Anand Sharma.

    Opposition can't do anything. They don't have numbers. Whatever personal they have got will prefer to walk out of assembly & take the day off !
     
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    Pardon me all but this thread seems to be funny.We are not even able to control our side of Kashmir properly with separatist scum doing all sorts of mischief which everyone knows. You have a government that bends over every time there is a terrorist attack on our soil and begs Pakhana-land for track-x diplomacy. The Paki foreign minister comes and meets the separatists without any fuss. We should have had an aggressive foreign policy wrt GB, Balochistan and Shia killing etc. in Pakistan. But we have missed all of them, just because of cheap vote bank politics and minority/caste appeasement. If this continues, I have no doubt that their will be one more partition of this land.
     
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    Our opposition is also bullshit, it never fights or questions when government is wrong, or raise it once and forgets.
    but when govt is right(few) it goes guns blazing and after some political fight just agrees but do make a fuss.

    but when it comes to increase MP pay or stuff like them
    All are together.

    That's reality of indian politics.
     
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    well nothing will happen nothing we can do someday China will come to delhi and we will be sing the same song.

    China will not listen us they know our strength even sl, pakistan, nepal,etc they all kno how strong we are ...

    For your right you have to fight and we indian don't want to fight .
     
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    India is shy because you have been bashed, owned and bogged down by Pakistan on and for your side of the J&K that you hardly have a cord left to shout on and for Pakistan occupied Kashmir.

    One has to give credit where it is due.
     
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    Hamisa vadhi india:thumb:
     
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    India's ONGC is already drilling over there, right?

    Chinis won't be upset until India really gets a drip of oil out of SCS

    GB a disputed territory? Chini's activities there are perpetuating all-weather partner PAK's de facto control of GB while keeping India in good humour. Live with it.
     
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    What you say is opposite to what China said. And its just exploration not even drilling.

    If you suck up the Indian drilling then come back and talk because the proposed area where exploration is supposed to happen is also under de facto control of Vietnam.
     
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    Coz u shy away from UN...:rofl:
     
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    What will UN do? :shocked:

     
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    that is the first point - only military action would change the situation - and that seems most unlikely to happen

    point (2) - GB'stan is INdian territory, for sure, but it was our own genius who temporarily leased it to pak in the first place - to give them time to clear the populatiions gradually and peacefully ..... now the lease is up and time to be returned to india , of course but pak is poutingly squatting on it .

    point (3) - even with point (2) going against us , the situation is still not lost - in fact not at all - but it will require technology and a backbone which im glad to say the goi HAS been displaying - and that is to go ahead and take compensatory action to not only suck oil out of the SCS area but also get into naval co-operation with countries in teh entire SCS region - this last option can more than compensate for the loss of GB'stan - but it will require pumping up our production of naval vessels - not an impossible task at all , in fact perhaps already happening

    point (4) - we may be turning the tides in our ability to think strategically - if these measures ( in pt 3 ) are taken - thereby boosting our confidence and showing ourselves ( besides any other side-line onlookers ) that things have changed and india now has the capability to take a negative situation and turn it into a positive .
     
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    Well parties across the spectrum hold view that it is impossible to capture GB right now , whatever window was in past that has closed down.

    Indian never had a leader with great foresight .

    congress learn divide and rule but forget to learn foreign policy from britans , if congress had followed britian policy then india would have been stronge today

    can u or anybody tell how can indian capture GB right back ? is possible militarily.I donot think so .

    Does indian has somekind of plan ? i always here on net that kargil was planned way back in 80`s are even back in past
     
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    For starters raise the effing issue. Pakistan keeps talking about Indian Kashmir why has India not always harped in what Pak illegally holds?

    Never say never in geopolitics. India can well pull it off and guess what we may not even have to fire a shot for it. But we require the will, capable and visionary leaders and able men on the ground to do it.
     
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    Militarily India can take back PoK at a great economic burden. India doesn't have hundreds of billions of $ to spend. Taking back PoK wont go nuclear, but pak nutjobs don't follow logic.

    International diplomatic pressure is the best weapon in India's arsenal.
     
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    Government slams Pakistan for holding elections in Gilgit, Baltistan region

    NEW DELHI: The Modi government on Tuesday slammed election in Gilgit and Baltistan and stated that the exercise is an attempt by Pakistan to deny the people of the region their political rights and efforts being made to absorb these territories. "India's position is well known. The entire State of Jammu & Kashmir which includes the regions of Gilgit and Baltistan is an integral part of India," MEA spokesperson Vikas Swarup asserted. This is first time that India has reacted to elections in Gilgit- Baltistan. The election in Gilgit and Baltistan on June 8 under the so called "Gilgit Baltistan Empowerment and Self Government Order" is an attempt by Pakistan to camouflage its forcible and illegal occupation of the regions. "We are concerned at the continued efforts by Pakistan to deny the people of the region their political rights, and the efforts being made to absorb these territories," remarked Swarup. The fact that a Federal Minister of Pakistan is also the "Governor of Gilgit Baltistan" speaks for itself, noted the spokesperson. Unfortunately in recent times the people of the region have also become victims of sectarian conflict, terrorism and extreme economic hardship due to Pakistan's occupationary policies, alleged MEA.

    Government slams Pakistan for holding elections in Gilgit, Baltistan region
     
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    Srinivas_K Senior Member Senior Member

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    They fight for the rights of Kashmiris and now they are trying to absorb the territory into theirs ..... Hypocrites !
     

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