Why is India lagging behind China ?

[Dovah]

Name one country with dark skinned majority that has succeeded to industrialize? Rich oil countries in ME don´t count.

Wow, oil rich countries don't count? Why? Resources are not an important part in industrialization? You do realize Europeans colonies played a huge role in European Industrialization, right?

Name one country with dark skinned majority that has succeeded to industrialize?

Name one stable "Dark-Skinned-Majority" country that is not growing at a good rate. Since, communism was your excuse for China, stability is the excuse for African nations.

 

[Dovah]

ndia had billionars just like she has today, and much of india´s economy was already in private hands.

Please do read up, before coming to a debate.

 

[tony4562]

So what happened to the "pale-skin" you specifically mentioned? Btw, average Mexican IQ is 87.

The more developed parts of China are simply mirages, created by CCP.

The more developed part is like half the country.

 

[tony4562]

Wow, oil rich countries don't count? Why? Resources are not an important part in industrialization? You do realize Europeans colonies played a huge role in European Industrialization, right?



Name one stable "Dark-Skinned-Majority" country that is not growing at a good rate. Since, communism was your excuse for China, stability is the excuse for African nations.

Oil rich middle east countries are rich because of oil, without which they would be no different than the improverished lands in africa. How these countries obtained their wealth is fundamentally different from countries like east asian countries that had no advantages other than their widsom.

 

[Dovah]

east asian countries that had no advantages other than their widsom.

Don't club all of East-Asia together.

China had slave labour.

 

[tony4562]

Wow, oil rich countries don't count? Why? Resources are not an important part in industrialization? You do realize Europeans colonies played a huge role in European Industrialization, right?



Name one stable "Dark-Skinned-Majority" country that is not growing at a good rate. Since, communism was your excuse for China, stability is the excuse for African nations.

Colonization on the whole did not benefit industrialization in europe, there are many resources on this. Saying this is no different than the belief some chinese held and still have that taiwan developed because of the gold KMT took with them to taiwan in 1949, another baseless excuse.

 

[Dovah]

Colonization on the whole did not benefit industrialization in europe, there are many resources on this. Saying this is no different than the belief some chinese held and still have that taiwan developed because of the gold KMT took with them to taiwan in 1949, another baseless excuse.

Are you for real?

Raw materials were the main reason for colonization! They needed raw materials to fuel their industries. Why do you think Africa was colonized?

 

[tony4562]

IQ s real. Blacks are reputed to have the lowest IQ. Do you think the fact that 30 million blacks living in the world´s most advanced country have hardly contributed anything to science, culture and civilization, has something to do with it?

 

[civfanatic]

Tony the Scandinavian Wannabe,

I asked you a set of questions relating to IQ in Post #19. Can you answer them?

And as for your assertion that "30 million blacks living in the world´s most advanced country have hardly contributed anything to science, culture and civilization" (I'm assuming you are talking about African Americans), please go through this list: List of African-American inventors and scientists - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. It is incomplete but enough to highlight the ignorance and stupidity of your comment.

 

[tony4562]

Are you for real?

Raw materials were the main reason for colonization! They needed raw materials to fuel their industries. Why do you think Africa was colonized?

Western powers certainly had their own interests when they walked into africa. But in reality their plan failed as Africa didn´t provide he riches they hoped. The real consequence of the past colonization past is actually seen today n the streets of european cities: waves after waves of african immigrants.

 

[Dovah]

IQ s real. Blacks are reputed to have the lowest IQ. Do you think the fact that 30 million blacks living in the world´s most advanced country have hardly contributed anything to science, culture and civilization, has something to do with it?

If you are referring to African Americans then,

Culture: Rap Music, Will Smith, Oprah Winfrey

They are leading in sports.

The Head of the State is Black. Who was voted to power, btw. Guess the citizens of the most advanced country know something that you don't.

 

[Dovah]

Western powers certainly had their own interests when they walked into africa. But in reality their plan failed as Africa didn´t provide he riches they hoped. The real consequence of the past colonization past is actually seen today n the streets of european cities: waves after waves of african immigrants.

And on the streets of Somalia. If the Europeans hadn't colonized, the industrial Revolution would've failed badly since they'd be fighting amongst themselves for the meagre resources that Europe provided. The colonies provided them with raw materials and markets for their products, it wasn't high IQ just plain simple barbarianism that helped them.

 

[tony4562]

Tony the Scandinavian Wannabe,

I asked you a set of questions relating to IQ in Post #19. Can you answer them?

And as for your assertion that "30 million blacks living in the world´s most advanced country have hardly contributed anything to science, culture and civilization" (I'm assuming you are talking about African Americans), please go through this list: List of African-American inventors and scientists - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. It is incomplete but enough to highlight the ignorance and stupidity of your comment.

It´s peanuts for their population. As a person who attended a major US college, I can testify that there is an unwritten law that a department needs to hire at least one african american as professor (even just as a token one) or they will run risk being labeled for racism.

 

[civfanatic]

It´s peanuts for their population. As a person who attended a major US college, I can testify that there is an unwritten law that a department needs to hire at least one african american as professor (even just as a token one) or they will run risk being labeled for racism.

Tony the Scandinavian Wannabe,

How do you decide if something is "peanuts" or not compared to the overall population? Do you know how many successful middle-class African Americans there are?

Also, it is a fact that African Americans have a higher per capita income than Mexican Americans and other Hispanics. Now according to yourself, Mexicans have European ancestry and this makes them "superior", so how do we explain the superior performance of the African Americans in this regard?

 

[tony4562]

Tony the White Wannabe,

Do you even know what is IQ and what it is used to measure? Do you know how IQ is calculated? Do you know why IQ is calculated, and the history behind IQ calculation?

You might want to find out the answers to these questions before peddling your racist pseudo-scientific theories and making a laughing stock of yourself on public forums (assuming, of course, that you are being serious and not just trolling).

IQ studies including IQ studies on indians, both indians inside India as well as overseas indians, have always come up with the same conclusion. It is not a perfect measure, but it does provide some glimpse into a person´s intelligence. I do agree that IQ itself is not the single most important factor, its just that the people with the highest IQ also happen to be the ones who work the hardest.

 

[tony4562]

Tony the Scandinavian Wannabe,

How do you decide if something is "peanuts" or not compared to the overall population? Do you know how many successful middle-class African Americans there are?

Also, it is a fact that African Americans have a higher per capita income than Mexican Americans and other Hispanics. Now according to yourself, Mexicans have European ancestry and this makes them "superior", so how do we explain the superior performance of the African Americans in this regard?

Blacks have been around a lot longer than hispanics who tend to be new arrivals (read illegal immigrants) with little or no english skills.

 

[Dovah]

Blacks have been around a lot longer than hispanics who tend to be new arrivals (read illegal immigrants) with little or no english skills.

And what were blacks? Ever heard of the civil rights movement? They couldn't even vote until the early '60s and were brought to the US as slaves by, guess who?

Your knowledge of history is terrible to say the least.

 

[civfanatic]

IQ studies including IQ studies on indians, both indians inside India as well as overseas indians, have always come up with the same conclusion. It is not a perfect measure, but it does provide some glimpse into a person´s intelligence. I do agree that IQ itself is not the single most important factor, its just that the people with the highest IQ also happen to be the ones who work the hardest.

Tony the Scandinavian Wannabe,

Thank you for proving that you have no idea what you are talking about.

You might want to read about Alfred Binet, who created the first IQ test, and why he created it.

Your assertion that "the people with the highest IQ also happen to be the ones who work the hardest" is so ridiculously laughable that it is not even funny. You don't seem to understand how hard people in the "Third World" work compared to the West.

 

[kickok1975]

Inida will not catch up on China and I give you one word for reason: race. To this day, no country with dark-skinned majority population has managed to develop into a modern society. If you look at the newly industrialized countries(regions) in Asia, Taiwan, Singapore, Hongkong, S.Korea all have pale.skinned north east asians as majority population, not to mention Japan. Do you think that is a coincidence that the Phillipines have failed to develope a tiger economy despite of having all the same 'ingredients' Taiwan or S.Korea had? In fact, the ranking of Asean countries in GDP per capital fully matches the percentage ranking of chinese as a share of the local population (Singapore > Malysia > Thailand > Indonesia), is that merely a coincidence? generally pale skin equals high IQ, and a society needs to have a 90 average in order to develop. All east asian countries score 100 or above whereas south asian or southeast asian countries all score 90 or less, there is just no comparison.

I agree with you that people living close to tropical area in general are less productive. But I would argue that culture influence people more than their IQ and skin colors. Look at Europe, PIGS countries are all in deep trouble due to their culture which end up in laziness and living beyond their means whereas their Northern European fellows are in much better shape. They are all white.

Indian people have dark skin. But few people can dispute their intelligence and I find them exceptional successful and adaptive. They as an ethnic group enjoy highest household income in US, higher than Chinese, Japanese and Korean Americans. Many MNC's CEO and senior executives are Indian origin while few are East Asians. Many people contribute their success to English heritage. But based on what I observed from my Indian friends their family value is key influential factor to their success which just like us value education, frugality, perseverance and hard working.

 

[J8II]

China is luckier than India in the history. That is it.