This is what Nehru was thinking but your Govt. back stabbed him. Your PLA do not think like that, they will feel threatened and would mount an attack even from POK if we will encroach an inch at that border. You are not backed by your own PLA. Go figure it out.
So, here you say that India is a threat? or is not? Your position is inconsistent.
No, this is what you said,
You got carried away and lost the credibility in my view.
Let's look at the facts: India and Russia formed a pact. Russia,
not India, directly threatened China. Hence, India threatened China
via the Indo-Russian pact. Now, Russia is equally close to India and China; hence the threat is gone. What part of that loses credibility or strains your logic?
The pact was a necessity, It helped us keeping Americans away. There is thread on this forum on American support of Pakistan in 1971 war. Chinese posturing on our border was a threat, but we were aware of your bad experiences of 1962 & 1967 (Indian compromised LAC, and beaten back your offences in 1967). Up to many years back we were confident about border with China, that is what prompted China to outsource its military ambitions to Pakistan. Now things are changing fast in China's favour again but we have our own contingencies for the same.
1962 was a great experience for China and it was a division-sized victory for China after India compromised the LAC in peacetime. Saying that was a bad experience for China is kind of a joke. China got everything it wanted out of that war. And 1967 in comparison is a footnote.
We know your reactions on Agni 5 launch.
You guys should stop day dreaming. We will hit your rice belts, all the industrial complexes including your military installations one by one. It is just a matter of time we mass produce these missiles and MIRV platform which is couple of moons away.
Again, like I said, India has no options to hit China aside from nuclear weapons. Let's say, what, 200 Agni 5s with 5 conventional warheads each. That's 1000 warheads. The total explosive weight deliverable per warhead is about 600kg. So that's about 600 tons of explosive deliverable, total--and missiles are a one-shot deal, unlike bombers, so that's it. By comparison, a wing of J-11s based in Lhasa could dump about 6 tons of explosive per sortie, and generate about 100 sorties per day, or about 600 tons of explosive deliverable, again and again and again. Even assuming a 20% shoot-down rate per sortie (which is between two and ten times what most post-war bombing campaigns have suffered) that's 3000 tons of explosives delivered. And that's just from one wing.
We are talking about strategic strikes done by Pakistani terrorists inside India not green house gas emissions.
You insensitive vote in favour of terrorists adds on to our collective frustration which we will vent out at your PLA, It lower our threshold of tolerating your pin pricks and gives us propaganda points when justifying our raids on you fences and beyond.
So? Has India raided those fences? Will it? And if it raids a post, would it survive a counteroffensive? Remember 1962.
Inaction by our part is not our weakness.
It just take a switch on and off being Capable, to have the intent, Intent without capability is fool's traits not ours.
Actually, intent without capability is a trait of most operations against highly entrenched positions at 5000m.
What a pile of bull crap your OP has become now. Thanks for admitting that Pakistan is your military ally whom you can give designs of nuclear bomb.
Also China can detonate a bomb on their short call to massage their national ego.
It means China's nuclear weapon program is an extension of Pakistan's nuclear weapon program and vice a verse. Pakistan is our mortal enemy with notoriously India specific lower threshold of nuclear war and battlefield doctrine. A+B= B+A.
Here you're making a logical fallacy. You're assuming that when China wants Pakistan to survive as a functioning country, it automatically wants to keep India down. Those two goals are not the same thing. You need to prove that assumption before you make your case.
I stand correct that India can threaten China.
I know what your answer is going to be for my next assertion.
Because you're contradicting yourself?
I was right you would use this opportunity to mention China defeated India.
That is debatable and another discussion, the bold bit doesn't sound like China defeated India. 1967 skirmishes made sure that you ally with Pakistan otherwise you have no chance against us.
1967 was a platoon-sized skirmish against border guards without air support. There was no real operational gain from that. It's not like India inflicted 10,000 casualties or took several hundred sq km back.
Why don't you make Tibet independent then, like I said you are not backed by your PLA. Their Govt. in exile is fully groomed to take the charge.
I'm glad you think "a few rocks" = 6 million sq km of territory and several million people.
I am glad there are few admirer of Nehruvian philosophy in China, you will rarely find anyone admiring him on 1962 in India, we all curse him for not punishing Chinese they way we could have and had liked him to do after your army ran back seeing angry battalions mounting your way. No use of air force was another blunder he did.
Nehru couldn't mount an expedition back into China, because by then the Cuban Missile Crisis was over and the superpowers would have forced him down. Nehru never had the timing for it.
What's more, Nehru had the right idea in that China and India didn't really have any conflicts of interest--he just couldn't resist trying to take over a few worthless rocks and poke the Chinese. That's a foreign policy mistake...
So you are saying we think alike ?
IOR is India's.
We can pose threat to any smart ass who will threaten our territory. I believe talking about threatening China in IOR is useless as long as they do not have capability to threaten us. Like is said posing threat is two way lane we are aware of your String of pearls and all other intents.
Actually, India is incapable of posing a threat to China over the Himalayas. The math just doesn't work out. China knows this. The other thing, which you haven't accepted and hence I think you accept, is that China's alliance with Pakistan is aimed at helping Pakistan and hurting India. Those are not one and the same.
Nice picture, I stand corrected. So much intent... so little capability.
