why hasnt india inducted a high quality apc/ifv

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  1. pack leader

    pack leader Defence Professionals Defence Professionals

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    one of the biggest holes in IA capability is the lack of a descent high quality
    universal multipurpose vehicle that will play many roles and solve many problems
    it will function as a light tank / ifv / apc / bridge layer / rocket tank destroyer
    in my opinion the best contenders will be the Swedish cv90 and the Spanish Austrian collaboration ascod
    you should simply build a factory in india and license produce one of them like t-90

    discuss ........
     
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    ace009 Freakin' Fighter fan Elite Member

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    The APC/ IFV are all stuck with the same problem - IA and MoD bureaucracy and red-tape. Ever since Bofors, any IA aquisition is pathetically slow and meander along till the problems comes to bite their a$$.
     
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    An APC/IFV isn't a fighter jet. The qualities that account for a good APC/IFV are ruggedness, reliability, and ease of use, not how fancy it is.

    With these parameters in mind, the BMP-2 remains a world-class IFV, and they are produced in India by the hundreds.
     
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    Godless-Kafir DFI Buddha Senior Member

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    First of all when we have more than 1500 IFV how did you say there was a huge gap in our IFV force?

    Also how would you know that it is under powered when 24hp per ton is the norm in IFVs? Also the model is under testing and there is no hurry to replace the BMP-2 which can be manufactured in CVRDE.
     
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    pack leader Defence Professionals Defence Professionals

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    you are totally wrong
    the main thing is the quality of rendered services be it troop Cary, troop fire support est est
    then there is the quality of protection and comfort of the crew
    off course reliability plays a role but it's a second roll to capability
    this is a must for you to be taken seriously by friends and enemies alike
     
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    40 t is the norm for tracked ifv in all first class army's except Russia
     
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    sayareakd Moderator Moderator

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    we follow Russian weapon system that is why we have less weight IFV,, BTW our MBT is only 46T, Now their is competition for IFV, all public and private players with JV are invited(this is for the first time) lets see what happens hope we will get heavy protection vehicle with modern gun and other fighting capabilities.
     
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    sayareakd Moderator Moderator

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    just bit off the topic, here is how last armored jeep competition happen we still dont know the result, may be TATA won because of cheap product.
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    hope this type of competition happen for IFV.
     
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    t 90 is a decent compromise bmp 3 is a big mistake
    all bmp series have crappy ergonomics and are made out of aluminum (aka death trap)
     
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    you make plenty of cars you don't need outsiders for that
    so a combat light vehicle will be a noon issue
    the problem lays in medium weight tracked platforms
     
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    @Pack our forces love BMP because it is tested all across the country in rough and tough weather. Ofcourse inside it is hot as hell and yes it is death trap, since we have licence production right and IA wants it they are making it.

    BTW check this one BMP with 105 mm gun.

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    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8gXQngrI7x8/S3qly6gzSzI/AAAAAAAAAOQ/FgM70uhmI0Q/s1600/16022010909.jpg

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    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_8gXQngrI7x8/S3uMKItna3I/AAAAAAAAAV4/lcsMce3JE7s/s1600/16022010906.jpg
     
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    this is an urban myth a merkava can carry 4 extra troops or one stretcher for short period of time
    mainly for evacuation .
    a merkava is slightly smaller and more compact then Abrams or challenger
    we us namer for apc / ifv but it's too heavy for you
     
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    the polish light tank you were discussing in a different thread is a cv 90 derivative why not embark on a bigger effort
    trust me both ascod and cv 90 have excellent mobility and modular armor for easy upgrades
     
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    you are also a fancy about defence, who thinks yours is best and others are worst and bad, like most of the Indian youth, may not be most of the DFI members. but most of the Indian youth thinks, LCA is Superior to F-22 and Arjun can beat M-2 Abhrams,
    so you are similar mentality guy, discussion with you is waste of time, you dont accept the Truth, even Pak youth idiots claim they won the war with India in 1947,65,71....... like you,
    BMP-II is a good combat vehicle may not be the best... you are from Israel, i accept the Israel is great, if it was that great why could it solve its own issues like gazza, lol.......
     
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    great an obsolete vehicle with an obsolete gun :rolleyes:
     
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    so can"t come up with a good answer start throwing insults very bad move
    stop being butthurt and learn from others it my help you in the end :confused::confused::confused::confused:
     
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