Why cant India start covert ops in Pakistan ????

[spikey360]

Well, as so many of the previous posts mentioned, they would not be covert ops anymore if it were known to the common people. There is a possibility that India is somehow involved in espionage in Pakistan and Afghanistan. We maybe inefficient but not so inefficient that there would be no Indian spies in paki territory.
An interesting news that has come to the spotlight is the NSA's note to the PM about the deteriorating condition of Pakistan. obviously the note contains more details than is being revealed and it is possible that India is doing all it can to levarage the situation and accelerate the disintegration of Pakistan. Let's face it, Manmohan's stance towards Pakistan has changed significantly from the Sharm El Sheikh fiasco. Nowadays all his attempts are at cornering Pakistan in the international forums. One wouldn't be surprised if he further hardens his stand and orders troop preparedness for a war, albeit secretly.

 

[bengalraider]

As far as those of you who are worried about us not responding,trust me we do!i cannot say more on the internet.

 

[agentperry]

when an israeli commando goes on operation he knows there are lots of powerful people back here in the command center who will come out for his rescue in case he gets into trouble.
back here the first thing the commando is told to forget that you ever that any connection with RAW. he rots in jail for his whole life with his family going below poverty line.
do you expect our men to go for covert op provided the approach this nation employ for these brave guys and their family.

many things are happening in pakistan which are totally against the theory of pakistan, these are anti state act. K for K is well known strategy in which karachi always burn when ever kashmir is ignited.

 

[pmaitra]

Why can't India start covert ops in Pakistan?

Why can't India start covert ops in Pakistan?

Good question. There is an old adage that says, 'Do not pick a fight with the crocodile when you are in water!' Similarly, India has reasons to not pick a fight with Pakistan when both the countries are in South Asia sharing a long border. India is well within arms length of Pakistan. There is nuclear parity.

A subsequent question that thus arises is whether India should sit quietly while Pakistan goes about doing all it can to destabilise India. The answer is obviously no.

So what is the solution?

Pakistan has a benefactor, PRC. India needs to keep PRC in check. Yet again, going back to an old saying, 'Pull the ear and the head shall follow!' PRC is a major guarantor that elicits Pakistan's belligerence. India's recent moves around South China Sea is a step in the right direction.

Now, coming back to Pakistan, of course, it is militarily weaker than India. Yet, it has created dependency for the US as a land transit route. It has also shown promise to PRC for an easy access route to the Arabian Sea. In other words, Pakistan has been very smart in using itself as a link between Central Asia and the Indian Ocean. They have successfully exploited their geographical location.

War is not always won in military terms alone. It has to be preceded by destabilising insurgencies, political upheavals and internal disturbances usually caused by the country that is trying to invade. This is what was done in East Pakistan before a full scale invasion.

Therefore, we have to take a graduated approach. Something that I could think of:

1. Make diplomatic statements expressing 'concern' at the treatment of minorities in Pakistan.
2. Highlight teething problems in Pakistan's regions, such as Baluchistan and Gilgit-Baltistan.
3. Help the US find an alternative transit route to Afghanistan.
4. Re-create an intelligence network inside Pakistan.
5. Arm indigenous insurgents within Pakistan.
6. Now think of carrying out covert operations.
7. Going beyond the topic of the thread, this point could be good for a full scale invasion or provoking Pakistan into launch an invasion only to crushed quickly.

 

[Illusive]

How would we know if RAW has started a covert operation or not.

 

[KS]

Helping the Baloch regain their homeland is the best I can think of.

The others are integrated well into the Pakistani psyche.

Here is a group (Baloch) that is refusing to bow down to pressure, has an excellent tradition in fighting and still we are refusing to acccomodate them. All they need is some "moral" and "financial" support and unlike the Kashmiris who even need the Pakjabis to fight their war the Baloch can very well take care of their situation.

 

[Tshering22]

Therefore, we have to take a graduated approach. Something that I could think of:

1. Make diplomatic statements expressing 'concern' at the treatment of minorities in Pakistan.

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   That is considered communal by Indian standards and hence would not be done.
   
   

   [*]Highlight teething problems in Pakistan regions, such as Baluchistan and Gilgit-Baltistan.

   Thanks to MMS's foolishness, we actually admitted something we never did in Balochistan in Sherm El Sheikh. Although this fresh attempt could be good.
   
   

   [*]Help the US find an alternative transit route to Afghanistan.

   By the time our dodos find it, war would be over. They're already ironing out a CAR detailed route. Once that comes, I'd like to see Pakistan's fussing over.
   
   

   [*]Re-create an intelligence network inside Pakistan.

   Can't say much on that since we all don't know how deep it is. I'd be mighty pleased if it is as cunning as what Pakistanis accuse RAW of.
   
   

   [*]Arm indigenous insurgents within Pakistan.

   Should have been done 2 decades back.

 

[sonofindia]

India should seize this great opportunity to put Paki on the defensive. Paki must be stopped from creating trouble in Kashmir and causing terrorist activities in India. The only language Paki understand is of TIT FOR TAT. Indian leaders in the past have been docile and almost cowardlike EXCEPT Indira Gandhi. How dare Paki keep India worried and afraid...India is 10 times more powerful..it,s leaders just need some courage and show Paki that creating trouble is not in its interest.

 

[Galaxy]

Who knows we might be doing ?? Since, No one knows about current RAW and our other Intelligence agencies activities. It will be only speculative.

If we are not doing anything that is all to do with weak leadership with "NO WILL POWER"

 

[Singh]

Ok, this is hearsay.

This happened after some terrorists strayed into Himachal Pradesh and killed some villagers before being hunted down and killed.

Subsequently, Indian commandos sneaked into PoK in the night, beheaded some villagers, and came back. It was done to send the message that we too are capable of it.

Now, for those who know better, is this true, partially true or just a rumour?

Thanks

terrorists killed children of army folks in j&k, and no common man was beheaded.

 

[mayfair]

terrorists killed children of army folks in j&k, and no common man was beheaded.

Khus kitta Singhji.

 

[black eagle]

How would we know if RAW has started a covert operation or not.

Well given what RAW can do, you would know it as soon as the operation starts...

 

[venkat]

Pakistan systematically eliminated Hindus living in Pakistan and Hindus by nature are god fearing type and lack the ruthlessness. where as pakis have successfully penetrated our Indian Muslim community by falsely indoctrinating them to take up arms against their motherland which provides bread and butter and relatively happy life and status compared to other muslim nations. so the day india breaks the nexus between ISI, our disgruntled Muslim brothers and D-company ,we will be free from terror attacks.without local modules help ISI is a dud!!!

 

[ALBY]

After hearing about all these attacks happening in pakistan still u guys thinks that talibs are the only ones carrying out attacks there?RAW is there in the back stage..100% sure

 

[venkat]

Then why did they not attack D-company boss party...one shots several terrorist master minds gone along with the terrorist!!!

 

[spikey360]

After hearing about all these attacks happening in pakistan still u guys thinks that talibs are the only ones carrying out attacks there?RAW is there in the back stage..100% sure

one would hope so.

 

[spikey360]

Then why did they not attack D-company boss party...one shots several terrorist master minds gone along with the terrorist!!!

Is it that simple? One doubts if it is so.

 

[Victor Sierra]

This happened after some terrorists strayed into Himachal Pradesh and killed some villagers before being hunted down and killed.

Subsequently, Indian commandos sneaked into PoK in the night, beheaded some villagers, and came back. It was done to send the message that we too are capable of it.

Which village? Can be somewhere near Chamba, as it shares border with J&K, which was once safe heaven for terrorists. Commandos from Dogra(mother unit)?

 

[Victor Sierra]

terrorists killed children of army folks in j&k, and no common man was beheaded.

Can't remember year, but I guess you are talking about the attack in Udhampur Cantt where, terrorist opened fire outside Army Quarters. Many of them who were inside home thought that someone might be bursting crackers or something like that (as on diwali also, Army organize cracker show), so they also came out. With few minutes of firing, they fled away. Killing Soldiers & Army families including children & women.

 

[Victor Sierra]

Is it that simple? One doubts if it is so.

Dawood is not an easy one but Hafiz is indeed. But if Osama is possible for America, then Dawood is definitely possible for India. Not considering the Osama type mission, just a sniper shot on head.