Why can't India do a US to the likes of Dawood, Saeed?

[Sabir]

Kashmir is the chase board on which Pakistan is playing its game. You have noticed the difference between anti-India groups like JeM, LeT,HM have not joined with TTP to wage war against Pakistan. Though there is not much ideological difference between them, these anti-India groups have maintained their loyalty towards Pakistan Gvt / army. India should take every steps to ensure this groups turing their guns towards Pak gvt. That will withdraw support of establishments as well as of common people from them. As an example, after killing of Osama some of these groups cursing America. Even many suspects Pakistani agencies helped America in the operation. Now, if you circulate a video or photographs (fake of course) that members of these groups are buring effigy of pak prez and Pakistani flag in the valley protesting against pakistan's assistance that is bound to create some tension between these groups and pakistani population. if not burning of Zardari's photo, burning Pakistani flag will definately do it.... If these groups point their guns against Pakistan...Pakistan will have no choice other than eliminating them. Seems unrealistic, but who thought a decade ago that something called TTP would appear in Pakistan.

 

[KS]

Kashmir is the chase board on which Pakistan is playing its game. You have noticed the difference between anti-India groups like JeM, LeT,HM have not joined with TTP to wage war against Pakistan. Though there is not much ideological difference between them, these anti-India groups have maintained their loyalty towards Pakistan Gvt / army. India should take every steps to ensure this groups turing their guns towards Pak gvt. That will withdraw support of establishments as well as of common people from them. As an example, after killing of Osama some of these groups cursing America. Even many suspects Pakistani agencies helped America in the operation. Now, if you circulate a video or photographs (fake of course) that members of these groups are buring effigy of pak prez and Pakistani flag in the valley protesting against pakistan's assistance that is bound to create some tension between these groups and pakistani population. if not burning of Zardari's photo, burning Pakistani flag will definately do it....

Mate no need to do anything - with the LeT leading the funeral prayers, burning US flags in Pakistan and Geelani doing the same in Kashmir the US eyes have definitely turned towards them.

Just grab a pack of popcorn and enjoy the show.

On a lighter note - if you want to do what you want DONT burn Zardari's effigy. Burning his effigy will only increase the support among the Pak people

 

[Sabir]

Mate no need to do anything - with the LeT leading the funeral prayers, burning US flags in Pakistan and Geelani doing the same in Kashmir the US eyes have definitely turned towards them.

Just grab a pack of popcorn and enjoy the show.

On a lighter note - if you want to do what you want DONT burn Zardari's effigy. Burning his effigy will only increase the support among the Pak people

You have not read my post properly. I said ' buring Pakistrani flag will do the trick if not burning effigy of Zardari'. But you must burn the effigy of Pak leaders to give the scene a realistic touch. Arrange some guys like them in Kashmir (or make up will do) , pay them and shoot photo ........Kashmiri hardliners are burning Pakistani flag....... It would be more funny if same can be done in Pakistan itself....JuD members are burning pakistani flags....

 

[KS]

You have not read my post properly. I said ' buring Pakistrani flag will do the trick if not burning effigy of Zardari'. But you must burn the effigy of Pak leaders to give the scene a realistic touch. Arrange some guys like them in Kashmir (or make up will do) , pay them and shoot photo ........Kashmiri hardliners are burning Pakistani flag....... It would be more funny if same can be done in Pakistan itself....JuD members are burning pakistani flags....

Who cares if anyone burns the Pakistani flag or not ?

For faster actions burn US flag - Justice delivered, express fast.

 

[Sabir]

There is nothing new in Buring American flag...people burn it everyday all over Muslim world...............but you are doing something to detatch Pakistasni people and these groups like LeT, JeM.....

 

[JBH22]

i dont know what to say to your speculation,first let our govenment gets courage to hang kasab and another guy in parliament case.Usa has the will to hang even sadam hussain but our damn government still feeding kasab with briyanis and urdu papers at the cost of tax payers.If bjp raises this issue ,they will say muslim blah blah etc
Let them hang all these stupid guys and think about operation like this.
We can dream but not like this

Quoted for truth we are a country of wussies pointless to dream first put order in our house then afterwards we can even dream of such operations. 26/11 is a national shame just for the hours it took to deploy NSG some have forgotten that these commandos came in buses.

 

[johnee]

You have not read my post properly. I said ' buring Pakistrani flag will do the trick if not burning effigy of Zardari'. But you must burn the effigy of Pak leaders to give the scene a realistic touch. Arrange some guys like them in Kashmir (or make up will do) , pay them and shoot photo ........Kashmiri hardliners are burning Pakistani flag....... It would be more funny if same can be done in Pakistan itself....JuD members are burning pakistani flags....

Or one could simply photoshop to make this crowd burn pakistani flag instead of US flag...

 

[jatkshatriya]

We cant do the same..caz we do not have effective structures of command and control, nor we have the balls, nor the kind of mature technology and the confidence that comes with it...and the last point...we sure aint the most powerful country on the planet with the most powerful military force this planet has ever seen

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

pakistan warns INDIA and INDIA says we too can carry out such covert operations. The fire is raging up between INDIA and pakistan.

 

[A chauhan]

Pak violates ceasefire in Jammu & Kashmir
India Blooms News Service

"Poonch, May 5 (IBNS) Pakistani troops on the border violated the ceasefire once again on Thursday by targeting forward Indian posts along the Line of Control (LoC) with Rocket-Propelled Grenades (RPG), mortars and resorted to heavy firing in Poonch district on Thursday.

The Pakistanis fired at three Indian posts in Krishna Gati (KG) sub-sector of Poonch.

"Pakistani troops violated the ceasefire on Thursday. They fired RPGs and opened Medium Machine Guns (MMGs) and small arms firing on three Indian forward posts- Kranti, Ravi and Nangi- in Krishna Gati," a senior Army Officer of 16 Corps told media.

The 653 Mujahideen Regiment of Pakistan fired 12 PRGs, over 500 rounds Medium Machine Guns and other small arms from their posts-Peepal, Pattal, Daku and Burji-from 1525 to 1600 hours.

Immediately after the first explosion occurred, Indian troops took positions and fired back and a heavy exchange of fire took place between both the sides, but no casualties on both the sides.

This is the third time this year that Pakistani troops have violated cease fire by firing mortars bombs and rockets. On May 23 and Apr 19, they had fired rockets and mortars in Poonch's KG sector."

http://www.indiablooms.com/NewsDetailsPage/newsDetails050511t.php

What Pakistan wants with this firings ??

 

[gogbot]

Pak violates ceasefire in Jammu & Kashmir
India Blooms News Service

"Poonch, May 5 (IBNS) Pakistani troops on the border violated the ceasefire once again on Thursday by targeting forward Indian posts along the Line of Control (LoC) with Rocket-Propelled Grenades (RPG), mortars and resorted to heavy firing in Poonch district on Thursday.

The Pakistanis fired at three Indian posts in Krishna Gati (KG) sub-sector of Poonch.

"Pakistani troops violated the ceasefire on Thursday. They fired RPGs and opened Medium Machine Guns (MMGs) and small arms firing on three Indian forward posts- Kranti, Ravi and Nangi- in Krishna Gati," a senior Army Officer of 16 Corps told media.

The 653 Mujahideen Regiment of Pakistan fired 12 PRGs, over 500 rounds Medium Machine Guns and other small arms from their posts-Peepal, Pattal, Daku and Burji-from 1525 to 1600 hours.

Immediately after the first explosion occurred, Indian troops took positions and fired back and a heavy exchange of fire took place between both the sides, but no casualties on both the sides.

This is the third time this year that Pakistani troops have violated cease fire by firing mortars bombs and rockets. On May 23 and Apr 19, they had fired rockets and mortars in Poonch's KG sector."

http://www.indiablooms.com/NewsDetailsPage/newsDetails050511t.php

What Pakistan wants with this firings ??

Obviously aid Infiltration.

Keep the Indian Posts pinned down , sneak terrorists across border.

 

[mayfair]

Obviously aid Infiltration.

Keep the Indian Posts pinned down , sneak terrorists across border.

Rather a desperate attempt to deflect the attention from their burning backsides to India. The Rich Anglophone Ruling Elite and TSP army desperately need to deflect public attention. What better than invoke confrontation with India? The best way to do so is via LoC firing or terrorist attacks inside India. Indian authorities and common folk must be vigilant.

 

[JBH22]

What a crappy article and load of BS first get the guts to hang the terrorist in our captivity,secondly if there was a political will to remove the enemy of INDIA this would have long happened but the thing is that our greatest enemies are in the parliament itself
There are 1000 ways to get rid of these scum but tell me first which politicians has ever included national security in his agenda when campaigning ?

 

[Parthy]

First of all Indian special forces do not have Hi-fi gears/gadgets like the US elite team posses.. Secondly, we do not have a government which takes bold decisions and stands by it..

We do have only Blame games in all parts of the Government... Nobody is ready to take any responsibility & ownership over decisions...

 

[JBH22]

First of all Indian special forces do not have Hi-fi gears/gadgets like the US elite team posses.. Secondly, we do not have a government which takes bold decisions and stands by it..

We do have only Blame games in all parts of the Government... Nobody is ready to take any responsibility & ownership over decisions...

India is the sole country in this lowly world who takes more than a decade to execute terrorist,its the only state to have liberated terrorist more than once,its the only state as mentioned above where the leaders prefer to care about elections rather than doing what's best in the interest of the country.

I'm quite amused by many of our DFI members who are dreaming we can pull off an Op Geronimo its sad but truth is that we are not capable.

 

[Virendra]

uhh we're the ones to blame ..
a) We live in a democracy
b) We don't have the basic etiquettes of operating in democracy. We think our role in democracy ends with stamping vote through a ballot.
c) We choose the worst possible people among ourselves to represent us.
d) We are no better than our leaders - half of the population bashing politicians in a talk show gives and takes bribes in daily life.


Regards,
Virendra

 

[BangersAndMash]

What can India learn from Operation Osama

Gurmeet Kanwal


What is the main lesson for India from the spectacular military operation conducted by the CIA and the US Special Forces? Nations that are too moralistic and legalistic in dealing with the complex challenge of state-sponsored terrorism end up as hapless victims. Only covert operations conducted by p roactive counter-terrorism agencies can raise the cost for an adversary enough to deter him from launching terror strikes.

There is no reason why terrorist-criminals like Hafiz Sayeed, Masood Azhar and Dawood Ibrahim should walk freely, planning future terror strikes and delivering inflammatory anti-Indian speeches from the Pakistani soil.

They can and should be brought to justice through covert operations launched by the Indian counter-terrorism agencies in concert with armed forces personnel of the Special Forces.

The US and Israel have repeatedly shown the determination to eliminate non-state actors who plan terror strikes against them. For its own national security, India must do the same.

The major requirements for pro-active operations: political will, meticulous intelligence and requisite counter-terrorism and military capabilities. Research and Analysis Wing should be allowed to re-establish covert operations capabilities dismantled under a prime minister's orders in the late 1990s. Air assault capabilities exist with the armed forces, but need modernisation and qualitative upgrade.

The killing of Osama bin Laden by US Special Forces in a compound halfway between the Pakistan Military Academy and the Baloch Regiment Centre in Abbottabad will go down in the annals of counter-terrorism. A total of 40 US troops, largely Navy Seals, were involved in the heliborne operation launched from the Afghan soil.

Of them, 24 Special Forces troops rappelled down directly into the compound, engaged Osama and his party in a firefight, killing him. One helicopter was lost, but there were no US casualties.

The Pakistan army and the ISI's double game has been finally exposed. Everybody is now saying 'I had told you so', but it was clear there was no way a man on a weekly kidney dialysis could hide in Afghan caves. He had to be hiding in Pakistan, preferably close to a military hospital.

In his address on Monday morning, President Barack Obama, referring to the families of the 9/11 victims, said, "Justice had been done."

The families of the 26/11 victims are still awaiting justice. They will not get it from Pakistan courts.

Brigadier Gurmeet Kanwal (retired) is director, Centre for Land Warfare Studies, New Delhi


http://www.claws.in/index.php?action=master&task=830&u_id=7

 

[Ray]

Why not?

Political will

Equipment, SEAD and weapons platform like the US.

Nor the capability like the Mossad.

 

[The Messiah]

Why do we need to capture them ? If we capture them then court will take a year and give them death sentence.

So why not kill them in pakistan anyways ? It will be easier and we could always deny involvement while at the same time eliminate these scum.

 

[Rage]

Pakistan hits back!!





You gotta hand it to Bashir, he's a lot smoother talker than some of his counterparts.