As I see it it is not fair or dark in complexion that bothers me.
Prettiness is not material. Bathing is important.
lol... I already knew this.. One very, very fine chap I met in my uncle's unit is a Dogra (speaks Kangri) and he seemed to me as if he was shorter than requirement in height. I always wondered how he got into the army.. Than again, I'm 6'2", so sometimes even average Indian heights seem small to me, but I asked around and found out that there was infact a lower height requirement for 'Pahari' people. I just didn't want to argue about the "fainess and tallness" of Dogras with atheisthindu over this, that's why I didn't bring it up, lol..
You have established that Punjabis are
I don't love kashmiri girls but kashmiri girls are very pretty certainly prettier than dogra and even punjabi girls. Why would I stop claiming that no matter what Kashmiris say about my community or country ?
I'm not sure about that. WHat I've noticed is that Kangra Dogras are shorter than Jammu Dogras. In Jammu, we have mixed with practically everyone from neighbouring regions. A lot of Dogras regularly marry into ethnic groups such as Kishtwaris, Poonchis, Kashmiri Pandits, Ladakhis, Baltis, Himachalis, Punjabis and even Mirpuri Hindus. Back in the day, many dogras were polygamous. As a matter of fact, my great grand father had 2 wives, one from northern Jammu and Gilgit Baltistan, where he used to work. Even some of my relatives have a central asian Kazakh like appearance probably due to mixture with Ladakhis. Because of the huge diversity of this area, you can't generalize Dogras. ON the other hand, Kashmiris are a much more homogenous group.lol... I already knew this.. One very, very fine chap I met in my uncle's unit is a Dogra (speaks Kangri) and he seemed to me as if he was shorter than requirement in height. I always wondered how he got into the army.. Than again, I'm 6'2", so sometimes even average Indian heights seem small to me, but I asked around and found out that there was infact a lower height requirement for 'Pahari' people. I just didn't want to argue about the "fainess and tallness" of Dogras with atheisthindu over this, that's why I didn't bring it up, lol..
But to placate atheisthindu... maybe it was just the fact that he was from Kangra; so maybe Jammu Dogras are taller than Kangra Dogras... I don't know..
I read a book once, a British compilation on the "martial races" and found that they actually listed the Pathans as shorter and stocky compared to Punjabis.. And than I also read somewhere that Pathan physical traits actually vary depending on the tribe they belong to... maybe there's something similar with the Dogras...
Don't take it seriously. I don't care. I think this thread is hilarious.
Evidently. I would say the hair are more blondish than blackish, it it helps you digest this fact ? .Although, he gets his beard and hair dyed dark because people think he has lightened his hair@Singh, I did laugh at the part about blonde punjabis though, no offence, but wtfBlonde Punjabi??? Is such a thing even possible?
punjabian de damaag ch kide pai gaye neEvidently. I would say the hair are more blondish than blackish, it it helps you digest this fact ? .Although, he gets his beard and hair dyed dark because people think he has lightened his hair
Look at Priyanka Chopra, Ajay Devgun, Shiney Ahuja, and Neil Nitin Mukesh all four are Punjabis.
Most babies are born with very light hair and most outgrow it. Some Indian tribal communities have light hair and eyes but dark skin.
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You can easily find out if you are Caucasian or Indian by doing the sun test. If your skin gets tanned then you have most likely Indian origin, if it doesn't get tanned but gets burnt in the Sun then you have Caucasian origin (foreign blood). Or if some parts of your body are darker than the rest.
Folks in Chennai itself don't call themselves Madrasis and in your opinion its not faulty to call Kannada speaking folks as Madrasis simply because a few districts used to be part of Madras Presidency!? Going by that logic, it should be 'ok' to call the English as Parisians or going by the earlier name of Paris, as Lutetians?.As for whether this reasoning of yours is offensive or not, can it be termed as 'offensively ignorant', if it sounds any better?
It is often a case of taking offense where none was intended. So in your opinion what is more appropriate for a person from Karnataka?
Ignorance, yes, but it is also wrong to accuse someone of causing offense, when no offense was intended.@pmaitra: If madras presidency had people speaking kannada, telgu etc, so every kannada speaking personhad to be from madras presidency and hence a madrasi. Superb really superb. Large parts of south india was not part of madras presidency at all. And wrt to karnataka maybe not even 10% was in madras presidency.
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Actually to this day, south indians are termed as madrasi. This shows the level of ignorance people have.
And look at the "cm increase per decade" column in your own link. Punjabi average height has actually decreased by 0.04cm (probably due to migrations, ~10% of Punjab's population is estimated to be of migrant Biharis now), while J&K's average height has increased in the last decade by 1.09cm.. This only goes to show that the height difference between Punjabis and Paharis was even greater in the past, so some of the notions of Paharis being generally shorter than Punjabis are not unfounded.
