johnee
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police's role in many riots is dubious. but only in gujarat is the chief minister of the state blamed for it. he is termed fascist and neo-nazi etc. the cases are booked against the perpetrators and they are sub-judice. the so-called NGOs like teesta setalvad tried to add masala by extremely exaggarating the events. anyway, congress party is known to CBI for its political reasons, infact it has not even spared its own allies like mulayam, so if modi had any direct or indirect hand in the riots, he would have been behind the bars long back. and dont forget that after 2002, modi has been elected again and again. even in muslim constituencies.At many places, the police were standing around doing nothing while Hindu extremists were killing Muslims in front of their eyes. In many other places, BJP MLAs personally led the killings. They did not even spare Congress MPs. One high profile case was that of MP Ehsan Jafri. He was brutally murdered and then his body burnt outside his own apartment.
so, yes the riot happened. it was brutal. but that riot was caused because of the brutal killings of hindu pilgrims in godhra. gujarat govt failed to save those hindu lives as well, so modi is against the hindus? yours is a twisted logic.
if the govts are to be blamed for the riots, then congress must be blamed for babri, because babri happened when congress was in power at center. sikh riots also happened when congress was in power.
now, did modi ever justify the riots in gujarat the way rajiv gandhi justified sikh massacre? who is fascist modi or rajiv gandhi?
you are clubbing all right wing groups, and blaming the actions of anyone on BJP. if we were to go by your logic we would have to similarly club all left wing groups and put the responsibility of CPI(m) and CPI. that means if there is a naxalite attack anywhere in india then karat and bardhan are responsible. does that sound logical to you?Please don't tell me you support these monsters. In its 62 years of rule, Congress Party activists have never indulged in such heinous violence, barring the 1984 Sikh riots. On the other hand, the very ideology of the BJP/RSS/VHP/BD is divisive and based on hatred for certain minorities. Even when they were not in power, they demolished the Babri Masjid. After coming to power, Gujarat happened. So did the Orissa riots last year, the burning of Graham Staines and his two little kids alive by BD activists, the manhandling of women in the Mangalore pub early this year and so on. The rise of extremism in India is mirrored by the rise of the BJP.
sri ram sene(SRS), the group that was behind mangalore pub attack is against BJP. recently, they went to the stage from where advani had addressed and cleansed the stage saying that advani had contaminated it!
SRS has fielded candidates against BJP. so, SRS is political opponent of BJP. to BJP, SRS and congress are equal equal.
as for orissa, swami lakshmanand, an octenegarian, I repeat an octenegarian priest was killed along with two women who were accompanying him. one of them was christian. wat do you call that? the priest was reconverting the tribals who were converted using money and 'service' by the missionaries.
unethical soul harvestations in india by missionaries is a big problem. you can start a separate thread to discuss it. btw, NE was predominantly hindu at the time of independence. but now it is predominantly christian. there was/is a call for separate state for christians in NE. also naxalites get lot of missionaries help.
really?!! wat happened in 1984 then?The Congress may have been many bad things-statist, pandering to minorities, corrupt etc, but at least Congress activists never indulged in mass murder of their fellow citizens.
anyway, the congress's misrule and apathy have led to many smaller riots many times. just becoz they didnt get the kind of media coverage that gujarat got due to the efforts of sekulaar NGOs like teesta, that doesnt mean congress or its cadre was/is clean.
btw, I hope you know wat recent SIT report says about teesta and gujarat riots.
I hope you are not saying that except BJP, all other parties have clean candidates. becoz nothing can be farther from truth. frankly, BJP is much cleaner on this aspect than almost all parties.And what about the BJP? They're clean? Their candidate from Udaygiri, Orissa, is a person called Manoj Pradhan, who faces 7 murder charges, and is currently in jail.