Who brought India's freedom

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Who Brought India's Freedom

  1. Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose

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  2. Gandhiji

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  3. Joint effort of all revolutionaries

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  4. Britain themselves voluntarily offered freedom.

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  1. Waffen SS

    Waffen SS New Member

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    Who brought India's freedom?

    There are 4 options.

    1) Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose for formation of INA which demolished Britain's Indian soldiers loyalty to Britain. Not to forget Britain heavily relied on Indian troops to put down revolts in India.

    2) Gandhiji first Indian leader to bring poor villagers to freedom movement, before Gandhiji freedom movement was ran by "Babus" from town.

    3) Joint effort of all including Netaji, Gandhiji, Rash behari Bose, Surya Sen, Bhagat Singh for example.

    4) Britain themselves voluntarily offered freedom.

    My vote goes for Netaji.

    Why I am giving few.

    Gandhiji himself said Netaji is "Patriot of Patriots.". British Government forbade BBC from broadcasting stories of Indian National Army.

    Contemporary British PM Clement Attlee said effects of Bose and INA was most important leading to India's freedom movement.

    And please vote.:india:
     
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  3. Free Karma

    Free Karma Senior Member Senior Member

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    I vote for joint effort.

    Hitler played his part too there, but then it was already getting hard to manage us with civil movements and other violent efforts from internal forces and external parties.
    You need everyone to join in and Gandhi bought the movement to the doorsteps of the "aam aadmi", and gave them an idea about what they could do as common people, otherwise most people really didnt care. The congress before that was just mostly posting the odd article in english dailies and making a speech at high society parties.

    I really wish the would expand the sections about the INA and other freedom fighters. Because currently most of it is about Gandhi, and there is a small page or two on the others. I dont think thats right. (atleast this is how it was when I was studying history in school...like back in 2000 or so).
     
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    Another fangirl thread. Great.
     
  5. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    There are many who contributed towards the freedom, some sung and some unsung.

    Mnaush Tiwari and Abhishake Sanghvi, as good parrots, would like us to believe it was the Congress, but that is not the whole truth. Within the Congress of those times, there were many who stalwarts and who quit after Independence .to form their own parties. They were united under one roof - the Congress so that Indiann stood united for the cause! To deny them their due would be patently false. iof not mischievous.

    Then there were those who believed in armed insurrection. Indeed, they played a major role. Highlighting a few does not do justice to the many unsung heroes, who too sacrificed and went to the gallows or were sent to kalapani.

    Even, I would say, the British helped - with their arrogance which was detested by all concerned and thus the Indian rose, each in his or her ideological way.
     
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    Indian Freedom Struggle in Short

    Netaji always worked in behalf of Mr Gandhi itself, his all the armies had names of Gandhi and others of indian freedom fighters itself, check :ranger:

    he was the man who was for the purpose to show that there is a portion of society who may go for armed struggle, even to help Hitler also if it may help india have freedom, while Mr Gandhi even supported participation of indians in British army to negotiate with British rulers for an easy freedom of India, which won't result of unwanted casualities. British government gave an open promise to Mr Gandhi also, that India will get freedom just after WW2, if he support Britain in that war..... Mr Gandhi used to lead "Quit India Movements"/ "Non Corporation"/ Boycott of British products etc., but it was only Mr Jinnah who was for the purpose to resist these Gandhi's efforts. and check, most of the British Indian army people were belonging to Pakistan's areas :ranger:

    there was no need to let the unarmed people get killed, if you know that they can't fight with heavily armed military. the only use of population was to put them on strikes, go to jails, boycott british products, "Satyagrah" in millions for "Quit Indian Movements" etc, half of the life of Mr Gandhi passed in jails only, while writing freedom messages for the common people from there :tsk: :facepalm:

    and this is how both, Gandhi and Netaji worked together. one was used to put a gun over British Rulers while the other one, Gandhi used all the 'non-violence' techniques to get the work done in the best possible way :thumb:
     
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    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

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    People of India did.
     
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    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

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    While Indians fought hard for freedom, the British in the end were desperate to get out. Mountbatten advanced the year from 1948 to 47. Thanks to him an ugly partition happened. It could have been peaceful. The Brits were facing severe balance of payment crisis. They really had no money to stay in India. They didn't even bother to use the armies to stop the carnage between Hindus & Muslims. They just wanted to get out of India.

    I think if WWII had not happened, its possible that we would has taken a few years longer to get freedom & it certainly might not have been as "peaceful" as we learn in our texts.
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    I would say two Gujaratis brought India its freedom.

    Mahatma Gandhi and Jiinnah. (I think both are from Saurastra).

    And another Gujrati, Sardar Valalbhai Patel, stitched the ruins into a country as we know it now.

    And there is anothr Gujarati looming on the horizon.

    Let us leave the destiny of this country to Gujaratis and sit back and enjoy their toils. :)
     
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    I wonder if the partition would ever be peaceful.

    The British over the years had shoved the shaft between the communities very deep!

    The aftermath is even felt today thanks to those who are the legatee of their machinations, which the legatees have tuned it into a fine rt, that even the British would be envious about!
     
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    thats also a valid point, accepted worldwide, Mr Gandhi himself had accepted the same on few occasions, and as discussed in the British classes too as below.......... British took over that India whose share in world economy was 18%+, while they left India in 1947 when its share in world economy came down to hardly around 2.0%, leaving only agriculture's share in whole Indian economy by 50%+ that time :rofl:




    Mr Gandhi mainly fought for having home industries, renewal of Indian industries which would help generate taxes for that Indian government which is for the purpose for the people based in India, not for the people based in Britain whose 'democratically elected' government was putting more taxes on the Indian residents to help British military in their wars. nor Mr Gandhi wanted Indian civilians to buy those British products which were for the purpose to provide jobs to the British workers working in UK, not to indian civilians......

    the graphs as below itself say the true pictures, how it was worth for just nothing to be in India after winning WW2. and also, support for Gandhi had gone so high that people were just not co-operating with that time British government anymore. British finally left that man, India, who was for no use anymore :wave:



     
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    it was joint effort right ? some people are remembered, but many who contributed even more are forgotten....so people of india as a whole
     
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    Joint effort of all including Netaji, Gandhiji, Rash behari Bose, Surya Sen, Bhagat Singh for example.
     
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    The joint efforts of freedom fighters helped us Unite and be ready for the opportunity presented by the end of WW2, to become free.
     
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    It was a long effort and 1857 started it,it was long effort of leaders and people and finally india was free.
     
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    1857 was not a freedom movement, but the final nail in the coffin of Islamic Rule. It would have been anathema for any freedom fighter to fight for the Flag of Mughal Empire.
     
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    Mughal empire fell down due to corruption and the betrayal of its core ruling states,the mughal empire was a golden history that we will all remember in good words.
     
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    One should celebrate Mughal Empire only if one's ancestors were legitimately sired by a Central Asian.
     
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    I doubt Gandhi was any revolutionary or he could be categorized with the ilk of Nataji or Bhagat Singh!
     
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    In Tagores words,

    punjaba sindhu gujarata marata dravida utkala banga!!!



    In Mahakavi Subramania Bharathi's words...

    A rough translation of Bharati's Words,


    It was the Bharathavamshis struggle and patriotism that made us free.
     
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