Where is the center right party?

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  1. Naren1987

    Naren1987 Regular Member

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    We're always taught in every standard in Social studies class about how the British gained control over India because of the 'Divide and Rule' policy, but why are we not taught about how our elite still maintain this control using the same policy.

    Every Muslim/Christian in Hindutva ruled states fears being mutilated by RSS workers over some batshit insane issue and therefore is in a way, cornered into voting for the so called 'Secular' parties(who have never organized a police force or a judiciary to put an end to communalism).
    And let's not even get started on the plight of the Dalits, several villages in Uttar Pradesh have been virtually untouched by any social reform, and I do not exaggerate when I say that is a place still stuck in the 16th century, with murder, exploitation of the lower castes being the same as if it were the Bronze age.

    It would be a big mistake, however, to believe that the left wing parties are not responsible for the social engineering in India, one could easily fry an omelet over the forehead of an upper caste Hindu, whenever he loses out his seat or his post to a Dalit(Dalit by ancestry, not by economic status) because of Affirmative action, under the pretext of social justice, never mind how adverse an impact this has on the quality of social services like education and healthcare, I don't think degrading the quality of Indian bureaucracy which is essential for removing Billions out of poverty is a worthy sacrifice for 'social justice'(HA) for Middle class Backward castes.

    India today is a society divided on the lines of caste, class, religion and economics.
    The upper and middle class Hindus have been taken over by the pro Hindutva(or at least sympathetic to Hindutva) forces(Hard right), while the Muslims and other religious minorities have been taken over by the Congress party(Center left), and the Communists(Far left) prey on the Hindu and Muslim working class.

    This is clearly not a healthy political scenario if we are to have a decent crack at building a civilized society, for the single reason that these divisions set one vote bank against the other, and these differences are exploited by the political,cultural and economic elite that have vested interests in preserving the present status quo, for their own ends.

    We have a country so deeply polarized on politics, so divided and it is hardly a surprise why we have such a dysfunctional political system.

    Is there a reason why we're not educated about center right ideologies like Libertarianism and hard headed socialism?

    Why would the Muslims fear a pro capitalist party that is left wing on the cultural issues, providing them with full security and and environment for the business people for the Muslim and Hindu traders, industrialists to create more jobs for the middle and working class?

    Why would the middle and working class Hindus fear a socialist party that is Right wing on cultural Marxism, but still places great emphasis on social and cultural reform on all levels, would put an end to affirmative action, but still makes it a top priority to provide quality education, quality healthcare to the poorest sections of our society?

    You know, I'm not trying to be cute about this, anyone with a 90+ IQ knows why we HAVE to keep putting up this filthy, degenerate system.
    The fact of the matter is that our plutocratic elite would never thrive in a country where a man's worth is determined not by his faith, caste, but by the love he has for his country, and by his country, he's talking about the people, not the Geography.

    They know that their social engineering parasitism would fail miserably to gain any support that is needed in a Democracy, imagine a country where Digvijay Singh's rants about Hindutvadis would be met only with Boos and Jeers among Indian Muslims, or Muthalik having the finger waved at him by Hindus whenever he predicts Armageddon on Valentine's day.

    What India really needs is a Center right revolution, a revolution of honor, not handouts, I simply don't care how much time it'll take for us to rebuild the system, but the one we have at present stinks, really, really stinks, and it needs to be demolished not repaired, and I'm sure the smartest among our people know this to be a fact.
     
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  3. Yusuf

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    I think you are spot on mate. I know many in DFI who can be that center right including me.
     
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    The Messiah Bow Before Me! Elite Member

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    you wrote that ?
     
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    Yes, I did.
     
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    The vacant space of the Centre-right is as wide as ever today.

    I know that there even a good section of upper middle class Hindu votes that go to Congress because of the TINA factor.

    Even in a recent UP survey the percentage increase among upper caste and Brahmin voters for Congress was actually higher than Muslims. And this was despite Muslims being allergic to Congress since the 1990s

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    Has UP's economy been inclusive enough to ensure Mayawati's re-election? - Page 4 - Economic Times

    What we need is a revival of the Swatantrata party which can show an alternative and consistent method of economic development and national inclusiveness other than the centre left policies that all parties from the Congress/BJP to the Left parties try to implement more or less in varying degrees.
     
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    The Messiah Bow Before Me! Elite Member

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    I am impressed and agree with your views.
     
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    Producerism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Fascism and Nazism failed as political and cultural systems, but they successfully pulled their countries out of the great depression without any colonies, allies, etc.
    Hitler transformed his country from a feudal system into an industrial superpower.
    We can still learn from their economic policies without persecuting any minorities, waging wars.
     
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    Hey how does that answer my question....????
     
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    The Messiah Bow Before Me! Elite Member

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    I believe germany's example would not be liked by the "banks"
     
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    I'm putting Nazi Germany ahead as an example of Right wing Socialism, the Germans enjoyed the highest quality of life before the invasion of Poland.
    It WAS a racial society, so racist that it would shock any decent person, but it was also classless, no hierarchy, no rubbish.
    Pragmatic, level headed policies can be identified as center right, whether they be Capitalist or Socialist.
     
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    I know, my heart bleeds for Libya.
     
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    I read somewhere that germany paid of its debt to banks after ww1 by not paying its workers the full payment in money but instead offered "services" and "goods" instead of cash.

    I dont know whether it was real or not. But nonetheless sounds a good idea.
     
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    Thats my point, right wing socialism is NOT center right....!!!!:thumb:
     
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    Do you really want to discuss economics here....????
     
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    I just saw the programme We The People on minority quota.

    It was a Muslim heavy panel, with Kulkarni and Bahuguna being the only non Muslim amongst the whole lot.

    However, the person who took the winds off everyone's sail was one Dr Hussein who is a Cardiologist.

    He said, that the issue is not quotas because that will still not solve the problem. What the people require is EMPATHY and NOT CHARITY.

    Barkha Dutt, for a change, came out with a rare flash of intelligence.

    She said one could not dull the PRIDE of the people (inferring that it is done so by meaningless doles)!
     
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    Why can't you have a plural Right wing society minus the egalitarian idiocy that messes it up, we could come up with the very first version.
     
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    But your quest is for center right party is it not...???

    So i mentioned what a center right party is....
     
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    Duh!!!! If a party follows a socialist approach, it is a center Left party... its not center right... Thats what i said....!!!!
     
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    I don't care how you wish to label it, just get rid of the irrational egalitarianism that goes along with it.
     

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