What is the downside to the booming Economy in China?

ice berg

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I kept the title short but the BBC journalist are referring the downside with in Chinese society and they illustrated with few negative pictures of China and as well as situation in the rural areas and lack of health care for Chinese in general. Do you think your government can and should do better job than what is being delivered?
I was under the impression you asked how China and India could help each other.

Well if you put the question this way, then answer is obviously yes. That is why they are talking about balancing the economy. Slower but more balanced growth with more emphasize on a consumer driven economy.
 

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As i see it, the downside to Chinese development is that the society is changing too fast, everyone is playing catch up even if everyone is exhausted.

I do miss the old days.

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Chinese economy is not booming. Growth prospects have come down from 11.5% to 7.5%. It has happened in last one year. Chinese are at the downside now. The forgoing translates into 10 million jobs less. Hence other than glowing news items of Chinese huge progress in press, the situation could not be very pleasant. Rest about Chinese economy would be decided my the Americans who may decide to tackle the Yuan valuation immediately after elections. It is downside for Chinese now.
 

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Chinese economy is not booming. Growth prospects have come down from 11.5% to 7.5%.
According to China's plan made in last 80s, the growth rate should be around 5% in this year. So, basically, China is still overspeeding!

It has happened in last one year. Chinese are at the downside now. The forgoing translates into 10 million jobs less.
Do you have any data to prove this 10million positions disappeared in China? Or it is just your own wish?

Hence other than glowing news items of Chinese huge progress in press, the situation could not be very pleasant.
True! But situation is still more pleasant than most of countries in this world including india! What China has to do is just waiting for some big guys falling. Just as the old saying: when you meet wolf, you only need to run faster than other people instead of wolf!

Rest about Chinese economy would be decided my the Americans who may decide to tackle the Yuan valuation immediately after elections. It is downside for Chinese now.
This currency talking has been going on for 10 years, it is not going anywhere! Why? USA's economic problem was not caused by Chinese currency! That is only lips work of americans!
 

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I wasn't aware China had a booming economy anymore.
 

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I wasn't aware China had a booming economy anymore.
You have lost touch with the real world after the " Lioning dont have engines, J-20 is a mock up and China cant make arresting gear. " statements.

You sound like a broken type recorder with your China litaney.
 

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I was under the impression you asked how China and India could help each other.

Well if you put the question this way, then answer is obviously yes. That is why they are talking about balancing the economy. Slower but more balanced growth with more emphasize on a consumer driven economy.
In the same post I did ask the question as mentioned by you. I think both the sides should have consultation to explore the areas of mutual commercial interest and work together to raise the standard of living as we do in USA and Canada.
 

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You have lost touch with the real world after the " Lioning dont have engines, J-20 is a mock up and China cant make arresting gear. " statements.

You sound like a broken type recorder with your China litaney.
Who is the broken record when you keep putting words in my mouth I never said? This must be your favourite song!

 
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Toyota-Led Slump May Drag China Car Sales Growth to 8-Month Low


Chinese passenger-vehicle sales probably rose at their slowest pace in eight months as a territorial dispute with Japan turned consumers away from buying cars made by Toyota Motor Corp. (7203) to Nissan Motor Co. (7201)

The state-backed auto association will probably say deliveries increased 2 percent to 1.35 million units last month, based on the average estimate of nine analysts surveyed by Bloomberg. Toyota and Nissan yesterday reported their biggest drops in China sales since at least 2008, while Honda Motor Co. (7267)'s sales were the lowest since May 2011, according to monthly data compiled by Bloomberg.

Japanese brands may lose their collective market-share lead in China for the first time since 2005 after rioters torched dealerships and smashed cars in protests over disputed islands. The China slump is the third crisis for the automakers in less than two years, after the Japanese tsunami and Thai floods that destroyed factories and disrupted supply lines.

"People are afraid of buying Japanese cars," said Satoshi Yuzaki, Tokyo-based general manager at Takagi Securities Co. (8625) "If the situation doesn't settle and if Japanese carmakers can't quantify the impact soon, there will be a lasting effect on their earnings."

The China Association of Automobile Manufacturers is scheduled to release its monthly wholesale vehicles sales numbers at about 3:30 p.m. in Beijing.

Honda fell 2.5 percent, the most since Sept. 28, yesterday in Tokyo, where it is based. Toyota, Asia's largest carmaker and located in Toyota City, dropped 1.5 percent and Nissan slid 1.9 percent. By comparison, the benchmark Nikkei 225 Stock Average declined 1.1 percent.

Sales Tumble
Toyota's September deliveries tumbled 49 percent from a year earlier to 44,100 vehicles, Nissan's fell 35 percent to 76,066 and Honda's dropped 41 percent to 33,931, the companies said yesterday.

Last week, Mazda Motor Corp. (7261) reported that deliveries in the country tumbled 35 percent to the lowest in 19 months and Mitsubishi Motors Corp. (7211) said that Chinese sales plunged 63 percent. Suzuki Motor Corp. (7269) said yesterday they fell 43 percent.

Automakers from Japan, which as a group have a higher share of China's market than any other foreign country, are bracing for what may become a bigger crisis in China than last year's tsunami in Japan, according to the China Passenger Car Association. Their share will fall to 22 percent this year from 23 percent in 2011, according to the to the group.

GDP Contraction
The territorial dispute over the group of islands -- known as Senkaku in Japanese and Diaoyu in Chinese -- may cause the Japanese economy to contract this quarter and hasten a current account slide as exports decline and Chinese tourism to Japan drops off, according to JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Toyota and Honda reported damage to dealerships from fire last month, while TV footage showed overturned Japanese cars and window shields smashed by demonstrators in some cities.

Nissan, based in Yokohama, Japan, will weigh the impact of the Chinese protests before deciding whether to revise its sales target there, Executive Vice President Takao Katagiri said on Oct. 5. Japan's three largest automakers plan to cut production to half of normal levels in China, the Nikkei newspaper reported on Oct. 8.

It's "looking very difficult" for Toyota to meet its target of selling 1 million vehicles in China this year, said Dion Corbett, a Tokyo-based Toyota spokesman.

Corbett said the company is adjusting production based on demand, comments echoed by Nissan spokesman Chris Keeffe.

Audi, Hyundai
Most non-Japanese brands appear to be benefiting.

Volkswagen AG (VOW)'s luxury Audi unit boosted sales by 20 percent last month to 35,512 vehicles, according to the German company. Audi last month asked a Chinese dealer to remove a banner advocating the murder of Japanese people after a photograph of the sign went viral on the Internet.

South Korea's Hyundai Motor Co. (005380) and affiliate Kia Motors Corp. (000270) said Oct. 7 they will probably sell more vehicles in 2012 than the 1.25 million they had projected and that combined deliveries rose 9.5 percent to a record.

General Motors Co. (GM), the largest foreign automaker in China, may be missing out. The company earlier this week reported its slowest China sales growth in eight months and said deliveries of Buicks and Cadillacs declined.

Slowing Economy
More broadly, demand has slowed this year as China's economic growth cooled to a three-year low of 7.6 percent in the April-June period. The nation's services industries expanded in September at the weakest pace since at least March 2011, according to the purchasing managers' index by the government and Federation of Logistics and Purchasing.

Last month's sales may put at risk CAAM's forecast for an acceleration in second-half sales.

China's passenger-vehicle sales growth will rise 15 percent to 8.48 million units, driven by demand from first-time buyers and as the economy rebounds, CAAM said in July. Full-year deliveries may increase 11 percent to 16.09 million units, the association has said.

"The situation with the Japanese automakers is unpredictable," said Ole Hui, an analyst with Mizuho Financial Group Inc. in Hong Kong. "We expect slower growth this year because of the slower economy and because the market still has to digest the high levels of inventory from the first half."

Toyota-Led Slump May Drag China Car Sales Growth to 8-Month Low - Businessweek


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The down trend will be the irrational dispute over rocks!
 

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Respect and appreciation are also need in both sides. but In a military forum, we should comply with the rules, let's mock each other and mouth fighting.
 

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China will help all major southern economies stabilize their own financial systems' security, considering the tide of recession and possible financial attack from northern world. But if the situation continues deteriorating to some extent, we will have no other choice but choose the isolationism path just as US did before.
 

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we are not a export driven economy our economy is domestically driven and most
exports are service oriented not cheap mass production. Export driven economies become
slaves to numbers and to other nations. Every Asian nation in the far east has fallen into
this trap Japan,Korea, and now China which has fallen the worst by buying the most
worthless US debt. And all have gone thru violent contractions where some like Japan
have not recovered and many predict china will go thru soon.
1 if like u claiming most exports are service oriented not cheap mass production.....then how come indian nominal GDP per capita is that low??

2 using Japan and south korea who are both highly developed nations and have way better economy than india to back your point up really doesnt seem to be convincing.....no one can prove export driven economy is bad or u can???
 

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