What is China's gain from the new route to Kailash Mansarovar?

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China let India use Nathula pass road to Kailash Mansarovar. But why? Why not the old road?

Is it because in the old root one has to spent 8 days in Chinese territory and has to cross Sino-Indian border area?

Does china have something to hide there?

Will they do something in future in Sino-Indian border area which may be impossible if Mansarovar tourists continue using the root?

Can you figure out what it will be?

Beside the new route will cause maximum damage to Uttarakhand. It will destroy Uttarakhand's importance as tourist destination. It will cost a loss up to Rs. 30-40 lakh annually. China is already damaging India.

But one clue is here: Sikkim will develop. Sikkim tourism will expand and develop. China wants to develop Sikkim. But why? Will it claim Sikkim as its part in future?


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Those who are interested in KMY have to go via Nathu la. We have asked for it and China showed us the way.
 

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The longer route is through comparatively populated area and so a check on the tourists can be discreetly kept.

It is a longer route and so great for commerce enroute for China.

 

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China let India use Nathula pass road to Kailash Mansarovar. But why? Why not the old road?

Is it because in the old root one has to spent 8 days in Chinese territory and has to cross Sino-Indian border area?

Does china have something to hide there?

Will they do something in future in Sino-Indian border area which may be impossible if Mansarovar tourists continue using the root?

Can you figure out what it will be?

Beside the new route will cause maximum damage to Uttarakhand. It will destroy Uttarakhand's importance as tourist destination. It will cost a loss up to Rs. 30-40 lakh annually. China is already damaging India.

But one clue is here: Sikkim will develop. Sikkim tourism will expand and develop. China wants to develop Sikkim. But why? Will it claim Sikkim as its part in future?


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You do not need to trust China. But, you may have to trust your own govt. .
 

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You do not need to trust China. But, you may have to trust your own govt. .
True, it is difficult to trust China, given that China promised $100 billion to only whittle it down to $20 million.

Something like Looking at London, Talking to Tokyo by China.

India does trust the Indian Govt. It is shown by democratic elections at regular intervals.

One cannot fathom if Chinese trust their Govt. There is no elections but rampant is the theory, 'Spare the rod and spoil the Child'.
 
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True, it is difficult to trust China, given that China promised $100 billion to only whittle it down to $20 million.

Something like Looking at London, Talking to Tokyo by China.
Then, you would trust your own govt.
 

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Then, you would trust your own govt.
I do trust my Govt and I don't care which route one has to take to go to Mansarovar.

If Mansarovar is in Tibet, then those who control that area are the ones to decide how to travel to that place.

One should have no reason to quibble.
 

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The beauty will be when a huge number of people want to go to Kailash Mansarovar for religious purpose on a important religious holiday and wont be held off by the indian government. there are now two "official" entry points and they are not convenient. The best would be to have a road and infrastructure developed for easy of access and will prc be kind enough like in 1959 (where "ease of access" was significant).

China National Highway 219 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The road has entry through many areas and some of it is even owned by India.

Does the Border Agreement say anything about people being arrested.

35 Chinese soldiers return to Ladakh’s Chumar, sit on a hillock - The Times of India

The Indian Army asked the Chinese workers to leave as otherwise they would face prosecution under Indian laws for entering the country illegally.
The human capital that is being invested by India to deal with PRC is small at this moment but increasing and getting mature and better and ready everyday.

Mount Kailash - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In Hinduism
According to Hinduism, Lord Shiva, the destroyer of ignorance and illusion, resides at the summit of a legendary mountain named Kailās, where he sits in a state of perpetual meditation along with his wife Pārvatī.

According to Charles Allen, one description in the Vishnu Purana of the mountain states that its four faces are made of crystal, ruby, gold, and lapis lazuli.[7] It is a pillar of the world and is located at the heart of six mountain ranges symbolizing a lotus.[7]

In Jainism
In Jainism, Kailash is also known as Meru Parvat or Sumeru. Ashtapada, the mountain next to Mt. Kailash, is the site where the first Jain Tirthankara, Rishabhadeva, attained Nirvana/moksa (liberation).[8] (The authenticity of Mount Kailash being Mount Ashtapada is highly debated.)[9]

In Buddhism
Tibetan and Nepalese Thangka depicting Mount Kailash
Tantric Buddhists believe that Mount Kailash is the home of the Buddha Demchok (also known as Demchog or Chakrasamvara),[10] who represents supreme bliss.

There are numerous sites in the region associated with Guru Rinpoche (Padmasambhava), whose tantric practices in holy sites around Tibet are credited with finally establishing Buddhism as the main religion of the country in the 7th–8th century CE.[11]

It is said that Milarepa (c. 1052-c. 1135 CE), champion of Tantric Buddhism, arrived in Tibet to challenge Naro Bön-chung, champion of the Bön religion of Tibet. The two magicians engaged in a terrifying sorcerers' battle, but neither was able to gain a decisive advantage. Finally, it was agreed that whoever could reach the summit of Kailash most rapidly would be the victor. While Naro Bön-chung sat on a magic drum and soared up the slope, Milarepa's followers were dumbfounded to see him sitting still and meditating. Yet when Naro Bön-chung was nearly at the top, Milarepa suddenly moved into action and overtook him by riding on the rays of the sun, thus winning the contest. He did, however, fling a handful of snow on to the top of a nearby mountain, since known as Bönri, bequeathing it to the Bönpo and thereby ensuring continued Bönpo connections with the region.[12]

In Bön
The Bön, a religion which predates Buddhism in Tibet, maintain that the entire mystical region and the nine-story Swastika Mountain are the seat of all spiritual power.

The quotation is appropriate. Yes I also know that the person in the video is a American.

But why would America get involved in the Sino-India border dispute. Perhaps because they suffered defeat against PRC in their eyes and disturbed their close relationship with India. The PRC defeated USA in 1962 and Dalai Lama was and is because of USA.

India offers to buy more U.S. helicopters, hopes to drive down costs | Reuters

 
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Those who are interested in KMY have to go via Nathu la. We have asked for it and China showed us the way.
The longer route is through comparatively populated area and so a check on the tourists can be discreetly kept.

It is a longer route and so great for commerce enroute for China.
you people only look a the present, not the future. why china will want india to use nathula root? why not the old root? is china going to do something in the old root? or will china want to develop sikkim only to claim it later? either way,its not good.

i have full trust in indian govt. i just am worried about chinese double standard game.
 

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you people only look a the present, not the future. why china will want india to use nathula root? why not the old root? is china going to do something in the old root? or will china want to develop sikkim only to claim it later? either way,its not good.

i have full trust in indian govt. i just am worried about chinese double standard game.
If you feel that there is something fishy with China, then just forget about going for the Yatra.

obryIt is Indians who want to go on that Yatra, not the Chinese. so the choice is yours - to conform to the Chinese rules or just forget it.

The territory is under Chinese occupation.

Can you legislate?

If so, how?
 
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You might be over thinking it, not every move it a plot. Probably a good-will gesture that might bring in a few tourist rupees.
 

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