What do People involved in Partition think of Pakistan ?

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Muslim here in regret for not moving to Pakistan just because of a moronic riot!!!!!!!!!

Just look at Pakistan today, muslim here in India are safer than in pakistan. I wonder if some pakistanis start thinking of the very purpose of creating a seperate nation. They dont utter their dis satisfaction in open because they are tought to support two nation theory otherwise how eould you legitimize the very existance of your nation.
 

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Trust me barring corrupt media channels such as NDTVs, dumbass leftists and self-proclaimed low on intellect elites - no punjabi likes pakistan (which will form 99.9999999999...%) of punjabis) and we suffered hell lods - as from 30-35% of pakitani punjab population, we are nothing more than 0% today! Bangali Hindus are still 10% approx. of BD population! Imagine!
 

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Muslim here in regret for not moving to Pakistan just because of a moronic riot!!!!!!!!!

Just look at Pakistan today, muslim here in India are safer than in pakistan. I wonder if some pakistanis start thinking of the very purpose of creating a seperate nation. They dont utter their dis satisfaction in open because they are tought to support two nation theory otherwise how eould you legitimize the very existance of your nation.
You are incorrect brother, failure of two nation theory is widely discussed in pakistan due to aftermath of 1971and subsequent disintegration of pakistan! Muhajirs say it openly that partition was a mistake!
 

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The contrasting event was one that took place in Los Angeles but which was perhaps celebrated more in India than in any other country in the world. Three Indians won Oscars: A.R. Rahman, Resul Pookutty and Gulzar.

Their victory set off a frenzy of rejoicing. We were proud of our countrymen. We were pleased that India's entertainment industry and its veterans had been recognized at an international platform. And all three men became even bigger heroes than they already were.

But here's the thing: Not one of them is a Hindu.

Can you imagine such a thing happening in Pakistan? Can you even conceive of a situation where the whole country would celebrate the victory of three members of two religious minorities? For that matter, can you even imagine a situation where people from religious minorities would have got to the top of their fields and were therefore in the running for international awards?

On the one hand, you have Pakistan imposing sharia law, doing deals with the Taliban, teaching hatred in madrasas, declaring jehad on the world and trying to kill innocent Sri Lankan cricketers. On the other, you have the triumph of Indian secularism.

The same people?

Surely not.

We are defined by our nationality. They choose to define themselves by their religion.

But it gets even more complicated. As you probably know, Rahman was born Dilip Kumar. He converted to Islam when he was 21. His religious preferences made no difference to his prospects. Even now, his music cuts across all religious boundaries. He's as much at home with Sufi music as he is with bhajans. Nor does he have any problem with saying Vande Mataram.

Now, think of a similar situation in Pakistan. Can you conceive of a Pakistani composer who converted to Hinduism at the age of 21 and still went on to become a national hero? Under sharia law, they'd probably have to execute him.

The same people?

Surely not.

Resul Pookutty's is an even more interesting case. Until you realize that Malayalis tend to put an 'e' where the rest of us would put an 'a,' (Ravi becomes Revi and sometimes the Gulf becomes the Gelf), you cannot work out that his name derives from Rasool, a fairly obviously Islamic name.

"In today's India, a Dilip Kumar can change his name to A.R. Rahman and nobody really gives a damn either way."
But here's the point: even when you point out to people that Pookutty is in fact a Muslim, they don't really care. It makes no difference to them. He's an authentic Indian hero, his religion is irrelevant.

Can you imagine Pakistan being indifferent to a man's religion? Can you believe that Pakistanis would not know that one of their Oscar winners came from a religious minority? And would any Pakistani have dared bridge the religious divide in the manner Resul did by referring to the primeval power of Om in his acceptance speech?

The same people?

Surely not.

India was founded on the basis that religion had no role in determining citizenship or nationhood. An Indian can belong to any religion in the world and face no discrimination in his rights as a citizen whereas Pakistan is extreme Islamic state.

The same people?

Don't make me laugh.

Vir Sanghvi


We are Indians and born in Bhāratavarṣa (realm of Bhārata) thousand of years back. Pakistan is nothing but just Islamic extremist who divided Bharat based on converted Muslims. Don't compare with Pakistan based on ethnic groups. It's Insult and I mean it.
 
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Bengalis suffered more than any ethnicity in subcontinent, they have been made pawn to Aligarh educated North Indian Muslims and Nehru, and then at the hand of West Pakistani Punjabis/Pathans. Almost 40% of total population in West Bengal can trace their root to erstwhile East Bengal, which shows the extend of migration the region had to bear because of political power-play between Jinnahs and Nehrus.
Political movements for a separate identity for Muslims began in Bengal. Muslim League has its genesis in Bengal. Pathans should not be unreasonably blamed. Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan was more pro-India and not a great fan of the idea of Pakistan. You can verify this yourself.
 

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The Red Badshah was all for India.

A Pakistani conspiracy overturned him and changed the tide.

Likewise, Pakistan played dirty in Baluchistan.

Check this out too.
 

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Welcome to Islamic state of Pakistan.

A Country which considers Ahmadiyya as minorities.

A Country where maximum number of Shias were killed.

A Country were maximum Hindus/Christians were killed. In 1947, Hindus + Sikh Population was 30% now less than 2% whereas in India Muslim population increased from 9% to 14%.

A Country where Karachi which is financial capital, where 2 Muslims ethnic groups fighting and 1,000 of Muslims were Killed.

A Country provinces Baluchistan where 99% populations are Muslims, They don't want to live with Islamic Pakistan.

A Country which is neighbour of Afghanistan where 99% are Muslims which hates them more than any country on the earth.

A Country which considers Taliban as Good Taliban and bad Taliban. LeT was good but it become Bad, If Truth Hurts !!

After finishing off non-muslims, now its intolerant towards fellow muslims like Shias, Quadianis, Sufis, etc. Even within sunni majority there are considerable differences between different sects. In Addition, Ehnic group Pashtuns, Mohajirs, Baloch too.

Pakistan should change her name to Hypocrite Islamic state of Pakistan.

90% pakistanis are converted Hindus, even quaid-e-asam Mohammed ali Jinnah is a converted Hindu. Genome map of this region by a leading International agency proves pakistanis belong to Indic race. Why hate Indians then?

Reason - Inferiority complex since inception.



And a country that shifted its capital from Karachi to Islamabad to enshrine the Pakistan Punjabi domination!

Karachi had become too much of a Mohajir town and Mohajirs were the intelligent and enterprising chaps, though rootless but had taken over the governance, judiciary and commerce and hence were overshadowing the Punjabi feudal and the jagirdars and who were the majority in the other centre of power - the Army!
 
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Political movements for a separate identity for Muslims began in Bengal. Muslim League has its genesis in Bengal. Pathans should not be unreasonably blamed. Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan was more pro-India and not a great fan of the idea of Pakistan. You can verify this yourself.
I know muslim league was created in dhaka, but was hijacked to lucknow very next year.

Badshah Khan, was a pashtun nationalist, he cared for none but pashtuns.
 

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I know muslim league was created in dhaka, but was hijacked to lucknow very next year.

Badshah Khan, was a pashtun nationalist, he cared for none but pashtuns.
The East Bangal peasant was the most die hard supporter of muslim league in the 1940 not the pukejabis or others

PS:Lets have this discussion in another thread accesible to only Indians if possible like the sort in MP.net
 
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But I must say, founder of Pakistan. Mohd. jinah wanted Pakistan to make A Muslim majority secular country like Japan (A Buddhist majority secular state). But it has become a fundamentalist Islamic state. I am sure, If today he would be alive. He would feel sad by seeing today's condition in Pakistan and would regretted on creation of Pakistan.
 

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The East Bangal peasant was the most die hard supporter of muslim league in the 1940 not the pukejabis or others
No Fazlul Haqs party had the greatest support. Congress ditched him, he had no choice but to join ML.
 

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But I must say, founder of Pakistan. Mohd. jinah wanted Pakistan to make A Muslim majority secular country like Japan (A Buddhist majority secular state). But it has become a fundamentalist Islamic state. I am sure, If today he would be alive. He would feel sad by seeing today's condition in Pakistan and would regretted on creation of Pakistan.
Empty talk.Jinnah was already given the hand when he was alive so was liaquat Ali Khan
 

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No Fazlul Haqs party had the greatest support. Congress ditched him, he had no choice but to join ML.
Faz ul hag had the Karshak praja party he supported ML in the lasr 5 years
 

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Empty talk.Jinnah was already given the hand when he was alive so was liaquat Ali Khan
I don't think. Hindus decided to live in Pakistan as it was decided that Pakistan would be secular country with Muslim majority. Pakistan become Islamic state later after death of Jinnah.

Pakistan became Islamic country in 1973. Under a section entitled "Islamic provisions," the '73 constitution proposed a Council of Islamic Ideology (CII), a board of anywhere from eight to twenty religious scholars, who were to represent a cross section of Islam. The Council's role would be to advise legislative bodies as to whether the laws under consideration were in conformity with Islam.
Pakistan became an Islamic state in 1973 when the new constitution made Islam the state religion. Under the earlier 1956 constitution Islam had been merely the "official" religion.
 
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I don't think. Hindus decided to live in Pakistan as it was decided that Pakistan would be secular country with Muslim majority. Pakistan become Islamic state later after death of Jinnah.
They denie medical treatment when he needed it most by sending a broken ambulance.Liaqat Ali Khan was hallaled by Pious pakjabi
 

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You are incorrect brother, failure of two nation theory is widely discussed in pakistan due to aftermath of 1971and subsequent disintegration of pakistan! Muhajirs say it openly that partition was a mistake!
Yes but on the risk of being labelled as traitor.
 

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But I must say, founder of Pakistan. Mohd. jinah wanted Pakistan to make A Muslim majority secular country like Japan (A Buddhist majority secular state). But it has become a fundamentalist Islamic state. I am sure, If today he would be alive. He would feel sad by seeing today's condition in Pakistan and would regretted on creation of Pakistan.
That is what we call 'Taquiya' - that is to pull wool over the people's eyes. Is it not a joke that a person wants the country to be secular when the sole basis for the formation of that country was religion. Remember who called for Direction Action Day in Calcutta and who was responsible for ensuing deaths.
 

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Faz ul hag had the Karshak praja party he supported ML in the lasr 5 years
Quoting from an article.

that A.K. Fazlul Huq's Krishak Praja Party had worsted the Muslim League in the Bengal assembly elections following the introduction of the provisions of the Government of India Act, 1935. Huq's party had a strong base among the dispossessed peasantry; its programme focused on land reforms and amelioration of rural distress. While it humbled the Muslim League in a majority of the constituencies in which they faced each other, the KPP did not have an overall majority in the assembly to enable it to form the government. Fazlul Huq invited the Congress to join in a coalition with him on the basis of an agreed minimum programme and thereby shut out the Muslim League. The elder brother of Subhas Chandra Bose, Sarat Chandra Bose, who was the elected leader of the Congress legislative group, was keen to respond positively to Huq's overture. But the party's high command would not agree. The Congress had secured absolute majority in the assembly polls in all provinces barring Sindh, Punjab, Bengal, and the North-West Frontier Province. The party's top leaders were puffed up beyond measure. The Congress would enter office in a province, they decided, only if it had an absolute majority in the assembly. An exception was made for the NWFP, where the Congress formed the government with the help of a Hindu Mahasabha legislator. That province, it was sought to be explained, had "special problems". With the party's landlord lobby active behind the scene, such a dispensation was ruled out for Bengal; Sarat Chandra Bose was directed to spurn Fazlul Huq's offer. A peeved Huq turned to the Muslim League and to form a coalition regime led by him. The Muslim League could not quite believe its good fortune. The tide turned in Bengal, Huq himself soon joined the League.
 

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Abir that confirms what I said lets discuss this in the PM's .This is an issue with enough fodder for anti-nationals
 

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