What are different generations in Submarines???

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What are different generations in Submarines???

please i cant I cant id between Russian and US Subs Generations,
as Russies claim Akula-II as fourth gen sub,
but US claim now they are using 9th Gen subs........

please clarify,
Thanks in Advance..
 

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List of Soviet and Russian submarine classes

The NATO reporting names were based on the British (and later American) habit of naming submarines with a letter of the alphabet indicating the class, followed by a serial number of that class. The names are the radiotelephonic alphabet call sign of a letter of the alphabet. For security purposes, the "pennant numbers" of Soviet submarines were not sequential, any more than those of Soviet surface vessels were.
Most Russian (and Soviet) submarines had no "personal" name, but were only known by a number, prefixed by letters identifying the boat's type at a higher level than her class. Those letters included:
К (K) — крейсерская (kreyserskaya, "cruiser")
ТК (TK) — тяжелая крейсерская (tyazholaya kreyserskaya, "heavy cruiser")
Б (B) — большая (bolshaya, "large")
С (S) — средняя (srednyaya, "medium")
Ðœ (M) — малая (malaya, "small")
Any of those prefixes could have С (S) added to the end, standing for специальная (spetsialnaya) and meaning "designed for special missions":
New weapon, engines and armanent testing,
Submarines for long-range radio communications,
Target submarines for anti-submarine training,
Rescue service submarines,
Covert operations.
List of Soviet and Russian submarine classes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

i dont know more about US gen's.....
 

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The US has submarines in their Civil War too!

First launched on May 1, 1862, the Villeroi-designed Alligator was the first U.S. Navy submarine. It was also the first to feature compressed air for an air supply and an air filtration system. Initially propelled by sixteen hand-powered paddles protruding from the sides, it was converted after six months to a screw propeller powered by a hand crank. At 47 feet (14.3 m) long and about 4 feet (1.2 m) in diameter, the Alligator was the largest of the documented American Civil War submarines. It was lost in a storm off Cape Hatteras on April 1, 1863 while under tow to its first combat deployment at Charleston.

The first documented Confederate submarine was the New Orleans-built Pioneer. It was 30 feet (9 m) long. This submarine sank a target schooner using a towed mine during tests on Lake Pontchartrain in February 1862. It was never used in combat, having been scuttled by Confederate forces before New Orleans was captured by the Union in April 1862.[5] The Bayou St. John Confederate Submarine is another Louisiana-built submarine that is contemporaneous with the Pioneer, although no history is known. It is now on display at the Louisiana State Museum.

The second documented Confederate submarine was the American Diver, also known as the Pioneer II, built in Mobile, Alabama. It was initially designed to be propelled by an electric motor but this proved to be too weak. A steam engine was installed next, but also proved to be insufficient. Finally, a hand-cranked propeller was installed. The Diver was 36 feet (11 m) long with a 3-foot (0.91 m) beam. It was lost during a storm while under tow during trials in Mobile Bay in late February 1863.

Confederate H.L. Hunley

The third documented Confederate submarine was H. L. Hunley, named for one of its financiers, Horace Lawson Hunley. Also built in Mobile, she was launched in July 1863. She was 39.5 feet (12.0 m) long with a 3.83-foot (1.17 m) beam. Hunley was designed to be propelled by a hand-crank from the beginning and could accommodate eight men to turn the hand-crank, as opposed to four men for Diver, and was armed with a spar torpedo. The submarine had to approach an enemy vessel, attach the explosive with a barb, move away, and then detonate it. Hunley proved to be hazardous to operate, and had no air supply other than what was contained in the hull. On three occasions, she sank. On August 29, 1863, five out of the nine crew members drowned during a trial run. The second incident occurred on October 15, 1863, when all eight people on board, including Hunley, drowned during a diving exercise. Then, on February 17, 1864, the salvaged and renovated vessel sank USS Housatonic off Charleston Harbor. Soon after signaling success, the submarine sank due to unknown cause; again the entire eight-man crew drowned. Submarines did not have a major impact on the outcome of the war, but did portend their future importance to, and increased interest in their use in, naval warfare. The location of Hunley was unknown until 1995, and she was raised in 2000. The sinking of Housatonic by Hunley was the first successful submarine attack on a warship.

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The Hunley Sub Is Free Of Truss, Visible For First Time By Scott C. Boyd (February/March 2012 Civil War News) CHARLESTON, S.C. – The Confederate submarine H.L. Hunley is now fully visible for the first time since it sank in 1864.

The H.L. Hunley submarine could be seen for the first time after the metal truss which had covered it was removed. Part of the shroud protecting the propeller is missing. The two conning towers are visible on top of the sub. The forward conning tower hatch is on. Various sections of the hull were removed to facilitate excavation of the interior. Some gashes in the hull are believed to be postwar damage. (Scott C. Boyd)


CHARLESTON, S.C. – The Confederate submarine H.L. Hunley is now fully visible for the first time since it sank in 1864.

The 17,000-pound metal framework, or truss, which had covered the submarine since it was recovered from the sea on Aug. 8, 2000, was removed on Jan. 12 as a small crowd of reporters and Hunley project workers anxiously watched.
 

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A photo of a full-size model of the Turtle submarine on display at the Royal Navy submarine museum


The Alligator was the first submarine purchased by the U.S. Navy. It contained two crude air purifiers, a chemical based system for producing oxygen and a bellows to force air through lime. Text & photo courtesy of chinfo.navy.mil.


Photo #: NH 999 Confederate Submarine H.L. Hunley (1863-1864) Sepia wash drawing by R.G. Skerrett, 1902, after a painting then held by the Confederate Memorial Literary Society Museum, Richmond, Virginia. Courtesy of the Navy Art Collection, Washington, DC.

U.S. Naval Historical Center Photograph


French submarine Plongeur. 19th century drawings.





Russian sub in Japan Russia war.


German U9 WW-I


German U14 WW-I.

All taken from Wiki submarine page.
 

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USS S-4 (SS-109) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
USS S-4 (SS-109) was an S-class submarine of the United States Navy. In 1927, she was sunk by being accidentally rammed by a Coast Guard destroyer with the loss of all hands but was raised and restored to service until stricken in 1936.

On 17 December 1927, while surfacing from a submerged run over the measured-mile off Cape Cod near Provincetown, Massachusetts, she was accidentally rammed and sunk by the Coast Guard destroyer Paulding.[1]
S-4 is towed to the Boston Navy Yard after being salvaged, 1928.

Paulding stopped and lowered life boats, but found only a small amount of oil and air bubbles. Rescue and salvage operations were commenced, only to be thwarted by severe weather. Heroic efforts were made to rescue six known survivors trapped in the forward torpedo room, who had exchanged a series of signals with divers, by tapping on the hull. As the trapped men used the last of available oxygen in the sub, a diver placed his helmeted ear to the side of the vessel and received this morse-coded message, "Is "¦ there "¦ any "¦ hope?" Sadly, there was no reason for hope and all six men perished. [2]

Despite best efforts all were lost. One diver, Frank W. Crilley, was awarded the Navy Cross for his work in rescuing another diver who became fouled in wreckage during the rescue efforts. S-4 was finally raised on 17 March 1928, by a salvage effort commanded by Captain Ernest J. King. Several of the salvage divers, including Eadie and Frank W. Crilley, were awarded the Navy Cross for their actions during the operation. The submarine was towed to the Boston Navy Yard for dry-docking and was decommissioned on 19 March.
 

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thank you very much to all friends and mates........
 

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Here is a list of generations for fighter aircraft. The generations are fairly well-defined by decades.

Fighter aircraft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jet-powered fighters

5.1 First generation subsonic jet fighters (mid-1940s to mid-1950s)
5.2 Second generation jet fighters (mid-1950s to early 1960s)
5.3 Third-generation jet fighters (early 1960s to circa 1970)
5.4 Fourth generation jet fighters (circa 1970 to mid-1990s)
5.5 4.5th generation jet fighters (1990s to the present)
5.6 Fifth generation jet fighters (2005 to the present)
5.7 Sixth generation jet fighters
I have not found anything similar for submarines, but perhaps looking at sub development decade by decade would yield a similar pattern.
 

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How to Build A Nuclear Submarine

 
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can Iran build a Nuke submarine after watching this video.???
stupid question !!!!
it is a propaganda movie for the general public no real details are given
even the smartest person in the world cant learn to make a sub from this movie
it took India 20 years and massive Russian help to build a nuclear sub
Iran lacks the money industrial base and time to build even a conventional sub
 

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Here is a list of generations for fighter aircraft. The generations are fairly well-defined by decades.

Fighter aircraft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



I have not found anything similar for submarines, but perhaps looking at sub development decade by decade would yield a similar pattern.
Could it be on technology improvement?

I keep reading 'Next Generation' every time a new technology is being applied to submarines.
 

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Could it be on technology improvement?

I keep reading 'Next Generation' every time a new technology is being applied to submarines.
i think the only major development of current gen diesel subs from past gen are AIP... and noting new..
 

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Turtle (submersible) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I would say that this was the world's first true sub, certainly it was used to attack a warship - HMS eagle in 1776, when Seargent Ezra submerged the vessel under the Eagle's hull and attempted to drill an explosive charge into the hull. However unbeknown at the time, the Eagle had had its hull copper clad - to prevent barnacles or some such I believe. This was the American side of the story, the British said it was all a hoax.

The Turtle (also called the American Turtle) was the world's first submersible with a documented record of use in combat. It was built in Old Saybrook, Connecticut in 1775 by American Patriot David Bushnell as a means of attaching explosive charges to ships in a harbor. Bushnell designed it for use against British Royal Navy vessels occupying North American harbors during the American Revolutionary War. Connecticut Governor Jonathan Trumbull recommended the invention to George Washington; although the commander-in-chief had doubts, he provided funds and support for the development and testing of the machine.

Several attempts were made using the Turtle to affix explosives to the undersides of British warships in New York Harbor in 1776. All failed, and her transport ship was sunk later that year by the British with the submarine aboard. Bushnell claimed eventually to have recovered the machine, but its final fate is unknown. Modern functional replicas of the Turtle have been constructed; the Connecticut River Museum, the Submarine Force Library and Museum, and the Royal Navy Submarine Museum have them on display.
 

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