What are different generations in Submarines???

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  1. bhramos

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    What are different generations in Submarines???

    please i cant I cant id between Russian and US Subs Generations,
    as Russies claim Akula-II as fourth gen sub,
    but US claim now they are using 9th Gen subs........

    please clarify,
    Thanks in Advance..
     
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    List of Soviet and Russian submarine classes

    List of Soviet and Russian submarine classes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    i dont know more about US gen's.....
     
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    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    If the US is claiming 9th gen then they are including WWI subs. :laugh:
     
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    The US has submarines in their Civil War too!

    First launched on May 1, 1862, the Villeroi-designed Alligator was the first U.S. Navy submarine. It was also the first to feature compressed air for an air supply and an air filtration system. Initially propelled by sixteen hand-powered paddles protruding from the sides, it was converted after six months to a screw propeller powered by a hand crank. At 47 feet (14.3 m) long and about 4 feet (1.2 m) in diameter, the Alligator was the largest of the documented American Civil War submarines. It was lost in a storm off Cape Hatteras on April 1, 1863 while under tow to its first combat deployment at Charleston.

    The first documented Confederate submarine was the New Orleans-built Pioneer. It was 30 feet (9 m) long. This submarine sank a target schooner using a towed mine during tests on Lake Pontchartrain in February 1862. It was never used in combat, having been scuttled by Confederate forces before New Orleans was captured by the Union in April 1862.[5] The Bayou St. John Confederate Submarine is another Louisiana-built submarine that is contemporaneous with the Pioneer, although no history is known. It is now on display at the Louisiana State Museum.

    The second documented Confederate submarine was the American Diver, also known as the Pioneer II, built in Mobile, Alabama. It was initially designed to be propelled by an electric motor but this proved to be too weak. A steam engine was installed next, but also proved to be insufficient. Finally, a hand-cranked propeller was installed. The Diver was 36 feet (11 m) long with a 3-foot (0.91 m) beam. It was lost during a storm while under tow during trials in Mobile Bay in late February 1863.

    Confederate H.L. Hunley

    The third documented Confederate submarine was H. L. Hunley, named for one of its financiers, Horace Lawson Hunley. Also built in Mobile, she was launched in July 1863. She was 39.5 feet (12.0 m) long with a 3.83-foot (1.17 m) beam. Hunley was designed to be propelled by a hand-crank from the beginning and could accommodate eight men to turn the hand-crank, as opposed to four men for Diver, and was armed with a spar torpedo. The submarine had to approach an enemy vessel, attach the explosive with a barb, move away, and then detonate it. Hunley proved to be hazardous to operate, and had no air supply other than what was contained in the hull. On three occasions, she sank. On August 29, 1863, five out of the nine crew members drowned during a trial run. The second incident occurred on October 15, 1863, when all eight people on board, including Hunley, drowned during a diving exercise. Then, on February 17, 1864, the salvaged and renovated vessel sank USS Housatonic off Charleston Harbor. Soon after signaling success, the submarine sank due to unknown cause; again the entire eight-man crew drowned. Submarines did not have a major impact on the outcome of the war, but did portend their future importance to, and increased interest in their use in, naval warfare. The location of Hunley was unknown until 1995, and she was raised in 2000. The sinking of Housatonic by Hunley was the first successful submarine attack on a warship.

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    The Hunley Sub Is Free Of Truss, Visible For First Time By Scott C. Boyd (February/March 2012 Civil War News) CHARLESTON, S.C. – The Confederate submarine H.L. Hunley is now fully visible for the first time since it sank in 1864.



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    First generation American sub:

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    Fill in the blanks in between to see if it can reach 9 generations...
     
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    A photo of a full-size model of the Turtle submarine on display at the Royal Navy submarine museum

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    The Alligator was the first submarine purchased by the U.S. Navy. It contained two crude air purifiers, a chemical based system for producing oxygen and a bellows to force air through lime. Text & photo courtesy of chinfo.navy.mil.

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    Photo #: NH 999 Confederate Submarine H.L. Hunley (1863-1864) Sepia wash drawing by R.G. Skerrett, 1902, after a painting then held by the Confederate Memorial Literary Society Museum, Richmond, Virginia. Courtesy of the Navy Art Collection, Washington, DC.

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    French submarine Plongeur. 19th century drawings.

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    Russian sub in Japan Russia war.

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    All taken from Wiki submarine page.
     
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    thank you very much to all friends and mates........
     
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    pakistan world's most powerful nuclear submarine donated by papa china:rofl::rofl::lol::lol::lol:





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    Here is a list of generations for fighter aircraft. The generations are fairly well-defined by decades.

    Fighter aircraft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I have not found anything similar for submarines, but perhaps looking at sub development decade by decade would yield a similar pattern.
     
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    How to Build A Nuclear Submarine

     
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    can Iran build a Nuke submarine after watching this video.???
     
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    stupid question !!!!
    it is a propaganda movie for the general public no real details are given
    even the smartest person in the world cant learn to make a sub from this movie
    it took India 20 years and massive Russian help to build a nuclear sub
    Iran lacks the money industrial base and time to build even a conventional sub
     
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    Could it be on technology improvement?

    I keep reading 'Next Generation' every time a new technology is being applied to submarines.
     
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    i think the only major development of current gen diesel subs from past gen are AIP... and noting new..
     
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    Turtle (submersible) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I would say that this was the world's first true sub, certainly it was used to attack a warship - HMS eagle in 1776, when Seargent Ezra submerged the vessel under the Eagle's hull and attempted to drill an explosive charge into the hull. However unbeknown at the time, the Eagle had had its hull copper clad - to prevent barnacles or some such I believe. This was the American side of the story, the British said it was all a hoax.

     

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