West Bengal government declassifies Netaji files

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  1. Illusive

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    West Bengal government declassifies Netaji files

    Ending years of wait on classified information on Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose and his family members, the West Bengal government on Friday declassified 64 such files which were in the possession of the Kolkata police and West Bengal police.

    The files are being kept at the Calcutta Police Museum, which is housed in the Office of Deputy Commissioner of Kolkata Police, North Division on 113 APC Road.

    "Making the files public was quite a big task. There are 64 files which contained 12,744 pages and it had to be digitised before being made public," Surajit Kar Purakayastha, Commissioner of Kolkata Police said.

    Files in their original form will be kept in a glass cabinet in Kolkata Police Museum, he said.

    The digitised files in the form of a compact disc were handed over to members of the family of Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose which included grand nephew Chandra Kumar Bose and former MP Krishna Bose.

    On Friday, the museum was opened only for members of Netaji's family and the media. The files will be open to the public on a first come, first served basis from Monday.

    The announcement to declassify the files was made by Chief Minister Mamata Banerjee on September 11.
     
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    While Mamata has her own selfish agenda, i appreciate her move. Finally we get to know what happened to India's most iconic leader.
     
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    Netaji files reveal snooping on Subhas Chandra Bose’s family.

    Sixty-four files containing classified information on Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose, declassified by the West Bengal government Friday, not only raise questions over his death in a plane crash in 1945 in Taipei, but also reveal the extent of surveillance his family was put under. Spread across the files are various references to Netaji “being alive”. For instance, in 1949, the state intelligence intercepted a letter written by Swiss journalist Dr Lilly Abegg to Netaji’s brother Sarat Chandra Bose. In it, Abegg said, “I heard in 1946 from Japanese sources that your brother is still living.” Abegg, who was a correspondent in Japan and China and, at the time of writing the letter, worked for the Swiss weekly Die Weltwoche, also wrote, “On account of the good relation between Indian and my country, it is not possible to tell everything in a too open and undiplomatic manner. Further, as I have not been in India, it is impossible for me to take sides with one side only and against the government.” In a previous correspondence, dated November 1, 1949, - See more at: http://indianexpress.com/article/in...amily-doubts-over-death/#sthash.UXiDuKS3.dpuf
     
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    What do you guys think, why centre has been so reluctant on declassification.

    Is it a possibility that that there will be civil unrest if the truth is known and an undesirable situation for the present govt. is a reason for such reluctance.
    Will these revelations destroy INC and if it does who would take their place? Is INC a lesser evil than the one that'd take its place?

    I feel there might be lot at stake here, ultimately it all boils down to how people are going to react to it.
     
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    I believe the central government are reluctant to reveal the Netaji files because it may have some damming facts about the conduct of Nehru and Congress... rather what we are thinking that it will implicate USSR / Russia conduct then.
     
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    ^^ Centre is reluctant in declassification, because:
    1. It will reveal how congress leadership including possibly even Gandhi was appraised of Netaji's captivity at the hands of Soviets. It will tarnish the image of the people who are called the fathers of our independence.
    2. It will possibly reveal communique wherein Britards or Soviets traded the then Govt. with Netaji's know-how in exchange of influence or policy decisions. May be it will reveal that Nehru's so called decision for non-alignement was nothing but compromise with handtwisting by both Britards and Soviets for keeping Netaji in prison or may be even killing him. What if Nehru gave up UNSC seat because he was asked to do so or else?

    3. May be the files also included how many of INA POW were killed by British to contain further disturbing status quo they have reached beforehand with Nehru and Gandhi and for mutual interest of not disturbing the apple cart that is so called deal of independence of India.

    4. Rumour us Netaji was sent to gulag in Siberia and died in captivity in hideous condition, and all of the Congoons leadership including Sardar patel and even LBS knew of it and did not do anything. This revealation alone will not only damage the image of those leaders who are held on high esteem by people accross the spectrum of political oarties, the involvement of other nations will damage the people's perception of those nations and may affect the international relations.

    However, I guess the involvement of the oolitival leaders are the main reason the files are not brought to light, since even BJP dare not disown all of them. May be even Shymaprasad knew of it and did not speak of it? The diplomatic relations, except may be with UK, will hardly suffer whatever is revealed at this date, anyway.
     
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    Sidharth Nath Singh is a BJP MP and his father was Vijay Nath Singh, I think, an employee of State Trading Corporation. Vijay Nath Singh was married to one of the daughters of Shastri ji. I think Suman Shastri. A day or two back on TV Sidharth Nath Singh has claimed that his father used to mention that LBS before dying had promised that he would bring back somebody from USSR, somebody for whom the country has been waiting for long.

    The program was about a theory (did not look convincing to me) that Bose was there even at Tashkant alongwith LBS. The TV was even showing a somewhat portly man with somewhat bigger face but with somewhat East-Indian or Assamiya looks. This man was being shown standing behind somebody whose face was blocked but was claimed to be Ayub Khan. Sidharth Nath Singh alluded to, without committing that the man LBS wanted to bring back was Bose. Mind you nobody was willing to commit anything. Everything was in terms of hints only.

    As a matter of record it is claimed that LBS actually never believed in the death of Bose in Taiwan:
    http://swarajyamag.com/politics/was-lal-bahadur-shastri-murdered/

    It is claimed on records, that LBS wanted to institute another enquiry into the death of Bose.

    But you seem to be an equal-opportunity doubter. Doubting everybody from oldtime Congress :D. Anyways I doubt if only the relations with UK will deteriorate. I think the true history of the rot and its causes would get revealed.

    Today for example it is confirmed from West Bengal records too that Bose's family was spied upon. Until now only the GoI records were revealed indirectly through media and it was claimed that Nehru had the family spied upon. Mind you West Bengal has never been in BJP hands. My personal guess is that BJP will bring the truth out anytime before 2019 elections. All this bits and pieces news in the media are merely the prologue.
     
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    Someone read the files and post the answers.... I'm too lazy
     
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    :biggrin2:

    But still if someone is interested in such matters. Tracking the fate of people who were upto something then here's one more from the same site.

    http://swarajyamag.com/politics/strange-lapses-of-eminent-historians/


    Something makes me feel both BJP and Momota are in this together. Both want the Congress out of their respective ways :p.
     
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    CHANDRA KUMAR BOSE @ckb1960in is grandnephew of Netaji and grandson of Netaji's elder brother Sarat Chandra Bose
    He is also the General Secretary, Indian Socialist Democratic Forum, Kolkata.

    Commies imploding :devil:
     
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    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-till-1964/articleshow/49005391.cms?prtpage=1

     
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    This pic kind of boosts my pride and ego whenever I think about Freedom movement.

    He is true son of Nation. Champion of pride.
     
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    So, what is the content of the declassified files? I suppose we will have to wait for a while before they are all presented in electronic format. I hope they are all scanned into PDF and posted online.

    I am interested to see whether there was any secret pact between Nehru and Stalin to either have him removed or imprisoned. Netaji lookalikes have been spotted at a few places after independence, but then, that is not solid proof.
     
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    British wanted to ban INA song in last years of its rule
    SHIV SAHAY SINGH | The Hindu

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    Wealth of information from recently declassified Netaji files.

    Besides providing some information about Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose's disappearance and constant surveillance, the 64 Netaji files declassified by the West Bengal government throw important light on the freedom struggle and how even in its last years, the British considered Indian National Army marching song seditious and tried to ban it.

    After scanning the files, it is revealed that not only the INA song ‘Kadam Kadam Badhaye Ja’ was considered seditious but the British gramophone company was asked to stop a recording of it.

    These developments recorded in letters exchanged between police, government and the company pertain to a period after Netaji’s alleged disappearance in August 1945.

    In a letter dated December 7, 1945, addressed to P. Barnes, Deputy Commissioner of Police, Special Branch, a government official said that a gramophone company producing the records would be liable to prosecuted under Section 124 of Indian Penal Code (Sedition) and the company should accordingly be informed. Interestingly, the company The Gramophone Company LTD ( Incorporated in England) with its office at Jessore Road in Kolkata kept writing to the senior police officials stating that their competitors in Bombay — The National Gramophone Record Manufacturing Co Ltd — had released recording of the song and was making great profits.

    This was followed by a letter by Gramophone and Radio Dealers Association which stated that despite being imperfect, the records from Bombay are selling well in Kolkata and why should the dealers be “deprived of such a golden opportunity?”

    It was finally on August 29, 1947, two weeks after the country’s independence that the order on the ban on the song composed by Captain Ram Singh Thakur, the band master of the INA, was lifted.

    Researchers and historians who have worked on Netaji and the role of INA ,said that other than the crucial correspondence between the family members intercepted by police, the 64 files will throw lot of light on people associated with the INA.

    There are about 20 files which are on INA personalities, publications and on protest to free INA detainees between 1945 and 1947.

    Nehru’s letters to Azad

    Interestingly, letters written by Jawahar Lal Nehru to Maluana Abul Kalam Azad that were intercepted by the police also refer to the work that the Congress leaders particularly, Nehru was doing with regard to the INA. In one such letter he writes,

    “Much time is being taken by INA work and the National Planning Committee.”

    In another Nehru states, “We have to deal with a large number of enquiries and increasing number of discharged INA men who are stranded.”

    There are references of growing demand of withdrawal of charges against INA personnel.
     
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    Pandit Nehru's views on Subhas Bose
    The Hindu

    As the West Bengal govt. declassifies the Netaji Files, we bring to you this report on his last days from the September 3, 1945 edition of The Hindu.

    AMERICANS "INCENSED"

    An American correspondent's statement that America was incensed by Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru's plea for clemency on behalf of Subhas Chandra Bose is quoted by the Sunday Observer correspondent reporting from New Delhi on September 1.

    The American correspondent, challenging Pandit Nehru to explain why Bose should not be tried and executed like other war criminals, declared that there is positive proof that Bose had been seen in Saigon a few days after the Japanese radio had announced his death.

    "The Sunday Observer correspondent says that Japanese report that Bose was killed in a plane crash is not believed in British and American military circles. —Reuter
     
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    Mr. Subhas Bose not involved in air accident
    The Hindu

    As the West Bengal govt. declassifies the Netaji Files, we bring to you this report on his last days from the April 2, 1942 edition of The Hindu.

    NAZIS BLAME BRITISH FOR ORIGINAL REPORT

    Axis radio sources were to-day actively denying the report, originally published by a French radio quoting a Tokyo despatch, that the Indian nationalist leader, Mr. Subhas Chandra Bose, lost his life in an aeroplane accident off the coast of Japan.

    The original report was broadcast by the Lyons Radio in Vichy territory and subsequently repeated by the German-controlled Paris Radio.

    In this connection Reuter indicated at the time that the German Official News Agency, while announcing the aeroplane accident, did not list Mr. Bose among the victims. The German press has now carried the affair a stage further. According to a Rome broadcast to-day, Berlin newspapers unite in accusing British news sources of circulating the original report. All evidence goes to show that the first news came from sources under German control or influence. —Reuter
     
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    A country based on crime against the whole of humanity since last 200+ years, get to decide about Indian freedom fighters. Accha!
     
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