Weird mind-bending case - boy accuses friend's mother of rape

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  1. Bangalorean

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    Ok, this has got to be one of the weirdest cases I've come across in the recent past.

    Mumbai: 16-year-old boy accuses friend's mother of rape | Latest News & Updates at Daily News & Analysis

    Let me play devil's advocate here - being a man, I know that an erection is the prerequisite for sexual intercourse. That's why women "raping" men is against nature kind of - unless the man is sexually aroused, he cannot really be "raped". So, is there something else in this case? What gives?
     
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    #Mychoice sex after marriage, sex with kids,sex with **** :lol:
     
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    Sex related crimes by women are under reported. There are female teachers who eloped with their 13 year old students. It is just that in Indian society women can do no wrong, they cannot be sexual predators in eyes of the people who matter.

    Erection is not voluntary. Plus how do we know that a woman being raped is not aroused sexually? It is a scientific fact that more rapes than normal sex result in pregnancy. Rape is a natural act in all Polygamist Primates, it allows the non-alpha males to spread their genes in a situation when majority of females would only mate with the Alpha males which might result in lesser genetic diversity. It is one of nature's dirty secrets.
     
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    16 year old boy sex with older women - statutory rape

    Think the same thing with gender reversed - will you be ok with a man having "consensual sex" with a 16 year old woman?

    Also, men can have sexual erection against their conscious will by subconsicous arousal and by use of viagra.

    But the worst part is , afaik, the present Indian law does not even recognise women committing sexual crimes , so much for women empowerment and equality
     
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    Indian society is probably the worst combination possible for men - a hybrid of Traditionalism and Feminism ---> none of the previledges of being a man all the while having to deal with all the responsibilities of being a man
     
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    What on earth does pregnancy have to do with arousal?? :confused:
     
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    Exactly ....!
     
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    if i would be at his place ,i would not have mind it rather enjoy the mature lady experience:p:p:p
     
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    I am not surprised. Only perverts generalise other men as perverts. They view other men's minds as being similiar to their perverted minds.
     
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    Keeping past history aside, I'd like an informal poll about how many young boys/men would enjoy sex with a mature lady (35+). I have a feeling, almost everyone would say yes, I doubt if any boy would recoil in horror at "exploitation".
     
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    Boy would recoil only if milf is far beyond tolerance limits in terms of aesthetics.
     
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    That is beside the point. Would you judge a case where a 35+ man sleeps with a 16yr old, with her consent, on the basis of consent alone or will you consider it rape as per the rape law?

    Laws should not be different based on sex. If the law defines an age of consent for boys, then anyone having sex with them below that age with/without consent should be considered as raping them. Period.

    Or define the age of consent as 16 for both boys and girls. We cant have different laws and different ages of consent for sexes. If anything girls attain puberty earlier than boys medically speaking.

    Unless you are implying women are some kind of angels who need protection, you cant advocate different set of laws for them(and it has a highly derogatory undertone to it that women are incapable of being responsible like men and should be absolved of responsibility) . And this is a dangerous stereotype to propagate btw - that men always want sex no matter what. Where do you think rape hysteria and all men are rapists come from? As I said before - this hybrid of traditionalism/feminism is what screws up laws against men. The feminist hysteria that men are rapists facilitated by traditionalist view that men love sex everywhere everytime with everywoman.
     
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    A lose of consciousness..and still maintain an active erection. Must be dreaming of bikini clad chicks running in slow motion on a sandy beach.. :D
    I suppose the case is so screwed ..may be some personal issues against the woman..

    This would solve the case..

    Peace...Case solved! :D
     
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    I don't disagree with anything that you said w.r.t. gender-neutral laws etc. And in fact, as far as I know the law is as you want it to be - the woman can be prosecuted in this case because the guy was a kid. Even if it was consensual (which it apparently was not in this case), she was liable for prosecution - that's my understanding. And that's how it is throughout the world - there were several cases in recent memory from US, UK and Europe where schoolteachers had orgies with their minor male students and were later prosecuted.

    Now, coming to the general male sexuality stuff. Nature has indeed wired men in such a way that they are much more open to having casual sex with a variety of women - be it construction labour women or 40 yr old aunties or 25 yr old supermodels. Provided there is no commitment. There are reasons rooted in nature and inherent biological reasons for this behaviour by men. In the case of women, usually they look for security, long-term financial benefit, societal status of the man, etc. For example, no woman would have sex with a labourer, but if the same labourer turns out to be a big construction magnate 3 years later, the woman will not blink for a moment before sleeping with the same man. I have known women willing to have one-night stands etc., but they are extremely picky and choosy about whom they choose to have it with. Social and financial status of the man is paramount for them, even if its just a one-night stand.

    That's how we are hardwired as a species. There are exceptions, but these general rules hold true.

    On "rape", my definition is clear. If an adult (non-minor) man and woman have consensual sex, its not rape, can never be rape. Period. The woman might approach the man for his wealth, in the hope that she might share the man's life at some future date. That's a calculated gamble/risk she is taking, and if it doesn't work out, it doesn't - it just cannot be called "rape", because the sexual union was consensual. The only thing that actually fits the definition of rape is if a woman was forcibly subject to sex without her consent, where the man makes use of his physical strength or other intimidation (blackmail with a gun or with threats) to have sex with a woman. Apart from that, nothing should be called rape.
     
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    Dude this is the frigging problem in this entire issue. Is the 16 yr old supposed to support the child when he is not even ready to support himself? Indian men are ----ed . Period :(
     
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    I am not disagreeing with anything you have said.

    But the problem is when people take this issue as if the guy had gotten lucky and should be happy that he got ----ed. It cant get any more misandric than that - that woman's sexuality is priceless while man's sexuality is worthless and should consider himself lucky for having been awarded such sex even if it was unwanted by the man. That is a bad way of looking at this issue. Would we do the same to a girl of 16yrs? Of course not. If we dont change this mindset in our society - the laws which only make men accountable for sexual offenses will never get changed, because it is the very same mindset which brought those laws in the first place.

    We should not allow misogyny but at the same time, we should not allow misandry either.
     
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    16 year old..
    The case is..I wont jump into situations that does not have clarity and debate on it..

    What if the 16 year old is lieng or is forced to lie based on a personal revenge.

    A woman doing such an act would ateast be careful not to get pregnant...I would say the guy is just 16 and may be unaware of contraceptives and counter measures..but the elder woman would very well know how to protect her..
    I would say...something dont addup in this particular case.
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    Erection while unconscious.

    My advice my friend...dont read too much into issue which doesnt make much logical sense.
    oh well..its a media report!! it should attract attention and should not make logical sense.
     
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    Q: Will you say the same thing about a 35+ Man impregnating a 16 year old girl and later claim that she was willingly giving consent? Even if she did indeed had given consent and accepts as such, would you let him off the hook for rape?

    This is the problem here - a minor guy having sex with a older woman - there can be no question of consent/willingness at all because he has not crossed his legal age for consent. But yeah, something does not add up and that boy should be lucky to be ----ed/ or is lying after enjoying pleasure.

    If you had claimed the same thing wrt to a woman, the entire forum would have been up in arms against you for blaming the victim:rolleyes:

    This is what I was talking about- this kind of traditionalism is actually very toxic to men and should have no place in a society trying to achieve equality of genders

    Again guys - sex with a minor is statutary rape - consent does not matter here
     
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    Pervert?? bhai if somebody offers you old wine how can u refuse:p:p:p
     
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    Lets see if you can get away with such comment on a thread involving a 16 yr old girl.

    And people like you have the gall to talk about gender empowerment:mad:
     
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