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What a beauty, very impressive indeed.
What so beauty about it ? Care to explain ? Just because your daddy got new car doesn't mean it better than anything in neighborhood. PAK FA, F35 and F22 are something to start with.What a beauty, very impressive indeed.
What engine is it using?
No. You are completely wrong.One more copy paste from the world's biggest XEROX copier machine.
It is now in the open that J-20 is a copy of MIG1.44, which they have now showcased at MAK airshow . Sometimes I wonder how Russia even tolerates this THIEF of a nation.
IDN TAKE CHINESE J-20 IS THE CANCELLED SOVIET MIG 1.44/1.42 STEALTH FIGHTER
TUESDAY, AUGUST 11, 2015 BY INDIANDEFENSE NEWS
The remarkable design resemblance between the two fighters is just not any coincidence - The J-20 is heavily based on the Mikoyan design bureau’s cancelled ‘Project 1.44’ to develop a fifth-generation fighter for the Russian Air Force
Mikoyan Project 1.44/1.42 Flatpack
The Mikoyan Project 1.44/1.42 Flatpack was a technology demonstrator developed by the Mikoyan design bureau. It was the Soviet Union’s answer to the U.S.’s Advanced Tactical Fighter (ATF), incorporating many fifth-generation jet fighter aspects such as Advanced Avionics, Stealth Technology, Supermaneuverability, and Supercruise. The design’s development was a protracted one, characterized by repeated and lengthy postponements due to a chronic lack of funds; the MiG 1.44 made its maiden flight in February 2000, nine years behind schedule. The Mikoyan 1.44 was eventually cancelled in 2000.
Chengdu J-20
The Chengdu J-20 is a Stealth, twin-engine fifth-generation fighter aircraft prototype being developed by Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group for the Chinese People's Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF). The J-20 made its first flight on 11 January 2011, and is expected to be operational in 2018. China's J-20 platform has the potential to be a capable, long-range strike system in the Asia-Pacific region, but a number of technical challenges will need to be overcome before production can begin.
Origins of the J-20 came from the J-XX program which was started in the late 1990s. A proposal from Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group, designated "Project 718", had won the PLAAF endorsement following a 2008 competition against a Shenyang proposal that was reportedly even larger than the J-20.
Flight Testing
On 22 December 2010, the first J-20 prototype underwent high speed taxiing tests outside the Chengdu Aircraft Design Institute. On 11 January 2011, the J-20 made its first flight, lasting about 15 minutes, with a Chengdu J-10S serving as the chase aircraft.
Conclusion
The J-20 is heavily based on the Mikoyan design bureau’s cancelled ‘Project 1.44’ project to develop a fifth-generation fighter for the Russian Air Force. The layout is virtually identical, with the main differences being the position of the intakes and the larger fuselage on the J-20. To give due credit to the "MASTERS OF CLONING", the J-31 is the spitting image of the Lockheed F-35 Lightning II – America's latest and greatest technological creation. However, the new project, being referred to as the Shenyang J-31, paints a much more disturbing picture than the J-20. The J-20’s heritage could be traced back to an abandoned Soviet project that was deemed irrelevant before it even got off the ground.
Why is this similarity to the F-35 worrisome? Because as recently as 2010, Lockheed Martin publicly admitted that six to eight of its subcontractors had been “totally compromised” by cyber-intrusions. Later it emerged that BAE Systems, Britain’s largest defence contractor and a key partner in the F-35 programme was among the breached firms. The proof, however, is in the pudding – the J-31 resembles the F-35 in everything but the engine configuration. The intakes are identical, as is the nose, wings and control surfaces. Note that despite choosing to use all-moving vertical stabilisers on the J-20, the J-31 features rudders like the F-22 and F-35.
The J-20 or the J-31 will take years before it enters operational service, and even when they do, they are not expected to match Western sophistication in propulsion, sensors, avionics, and pilot interface. What is inescapable, however, is that basic airframe design and construction of fifth-generation aircraft is no longer an area where the West retains mastery. Whether China acquired this expertise honestly or not is moot. The fact is that they have put two prototypes into testing in one-fifth the time it took either Russia or the United States, and are catching up everywhere else. (Credit: Angad)
I think the engines are probably Chinese. Russian engines are smoky.What a beauty, very impressive indeed.
What engine is it using?
No. You are completely wrong.
China's J-20 is a stealth fighter. The Mig 1.44 was not.
China's J-20 has air intakes on the side. The Mig 1.44 has air intakes below its fuselage.
China's J-20 has DSI intakes. The Mig 1.44 does not.
China's J-20 has stealthy S-ducts (or serpentine ducts). The Mig 1.44 does not.
China's J-20 has angled vertical stabilizers for stealth. The Mig 1.44 does not.
China's J-20 has an AESA radar. The Mig 1.44 does not.
China's J-20 has planform alignment. The Mig 1.44 does not.
China's J-20 has its canards directly in front of its main wings. The Mig 1.44 has canards located at a higher elevation than its wings.
China's J-20 has internal weapon bays. The Mig 1.44 does not.
In conclusion, China's J-20 has no relation to the Mig 1.44. The only thing you can claim is that they are both delta-wing fighters. However, many aircraft worldwide are delta-wing fighters (such as the Eurofighter, the Rafale, the F-14 Tomcat, etc.).
Whatever you have listed is a car company doing facelift of existing models. For example changing headlamps, tail lamps, a new grill, a new dash board, upgraded engine with turbo, etc. and voila its a new car. Mig 1.44 developed in response to F-22 and the above was a TD which was to be converted into a stealth fighter but then USSR was finished and this model was scrapped for SU 50 PAKFA.No. You are completely wrong.
China's J-20 is a stealth fighter. The Mig 1.44 was not.
China's J-20 has air intakes on the side. The Mig 1.44 has air intakes below its fuselage.
China's J-20 has DSI intakes. The Mig 1.44 does not.
China's J-20 has stealthy S-ducts (or serpentine ducts). The Mig 1.44 does not.
China's J-20 has angled vertical stabilizers for stealth. The Mig 1.44 does not.
China's J-20 has an AESA radar. The Mig 1.44 does not.
China's J-20 has planform alignment. The Mig 1.44 does not.
China's J-20 has its canards directly in front of its main wings. The Mig 1.44 has canards located at a higher elevation than its wings.
China's J-20 has internal weapon bays. The Mig 1.44 does not.
In conclusion, China's J-20 has no relation to the Mig 1.44. The only thing you can claim is that they are both delta-wing fighters. However, many aircraft worldwide are delta-wing fighters (such as the Eurofighter, the Rafale, the F-14 Tomcat, etc.).
You are extremely ignorant.Whatever you have listed is a car company doing facelift of existing models. For example changing headlamps, tail lamps, a new grill, a new dash board, upgraded engine with turbo, etc. and voila its a new car. Mig 1.44 developed in response to F-22 and the above was a TD which was to be converted into a stealth fighter but then USSR was finished and this model was scrapped for SU 50 PAKFA.
When I see the Mig 1.44/1.42, I remember the film "Firefox", with Clint Eastwood....One more copy paste from the world's biggest XEROX copier machine.
It is now in the open that J-20 is a copy of MIG1.44, which they have now showcased at MAK airshow . Sometimes I wonder how Russia even tolerates this THIEF of a nation.
IDN TAKE CHINESE J-20 IS THE CANCELLED SOVIET MIG 1.44/1.42 STEALTH FIGHTER
TUESDAY, AUGUST 11, 2015 BY INDIANDEFENSE NEWS
The remarkable design resemblance between the two fighters is just not any coincidence - The J-20 is heavily based on the Mikoyan design bureau’s cancelled ‘Project 1.44’ to develop a fifth-generation fighter for the Russian Air Force
Mikoyan Project 1.44/1.42 Flatpack
The Mikoyan Project 1.44/1.42 Flatpack was a technology demonstrator developed by the Mikoyan design bureau. It was the Soviet Union’s answer to the U.S.’s Advanced Tactical Fighter (ATF), incorporating many fifth-generation jet fighter aspects such as Advanced Avionics, Stealth Technology, Supermaneuverability, and Supercruise. The design’s development was a protracted one, characterized by repeated and lengthy postponements due to a chronic lack of funds; the MiG 1.44 made its maiden flight in February 2000, nine years behind schedule. The Mikoyan 1.44 was eventually cancelled in 2000.
Chengdu J-20
The Chengdu J-20 is a Stealth, twin-engine fifth-generation fighter aircraft prototype being developed by Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group for the Chinese People's Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF). The J-20 made its first flight on 11 January 2011, and is expected to be operational in 2018. China's J-20 platform has the potential to be a capable, long-range strike system in the Asia-Pacific region, but a number of technical challenges will need to be overcome before production can begin.
Origins of the J-20 came from the J-XX program which was started in the late 1990s. A proposal from Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group, designated "Project 718", had won the PLAAF endorsement following a 2008 competition against a Shenyang proposal that was reportedly even larger than the J-20.
Flight Testing
On 22 December 2010, the first J-20 prototype underwent high speed taxiing tests outside the Chengdu Aircraft Design Institute. On 11 January 2011, the J-20 made its first flight, lasting about 15 minutes, with a Chengdu J-10S serving as the chase aircraft.
Conclusion
The J-20 is heavily based on the Mikoyan design bureau’s cancelled ‘Project 1.44’ project to develop a fifth-generation fighter for the Russian Air Force. The layout is virtually identical, with the main differences being the position of the intakes and the larger fuselage on the J-20. To give due credit to the "MASTERS OF CLONING", the J-31 is the spitting image of the Lockheed F-35 Lightning II – America's latest and greatest technological creation. However, the new project, being referred to as the Shenyang J-31, paints a much more disturbing picture than the J-20. The J-20’s heritage could be traced back to an abandoned Soviet project that was deemed irrelevant before it even got off the ground.
Why is this similarity to the F-35 worrisome? Because as recently as 2010, Lockheed Martin publicly admitted that six to eight of its subcontractors had been “totally compromised” by cyber-intrusions. Later it emerged that BAE Systems, Britain’s largest defence contractor and a key partner in the F-35 programme was among the breached firms. The proof, however, is in the pudding – the J-31 resembles the F-35 in everything but the engine configuration. The intakes are identical, as is the nose, wings and control surfaces. Note that despite choosing to use all-moving vertical stabilisers on the J-20, the J-31 features rudders like the F-22 and F-35.
The J-20 or the J-31 will take years before it enters operational service, and even when they do, they are not expected to match Western sophistication in propulsion, sensors, avionics, and pilot interface. What is inescapable, however, is that basic airframe design and construction of fifth-generation aircraft is no longer an area where the West retains mastery. Whether China acquired this expertise honestly or not is moot. The fact is that they have put two prototypes into testing in one-fifth the time it took either Russia or the United States, and are catching up everywhere else. (Credit: Angad)
You are wrong and I can prove it:No. You are completely wrong.
China's J-20 is a stealth fighter. The Mig 1.44 was not.
China's J-20 has air intakes on the side. The Mig 1.44 has air intakes below its fuselage.
China's J-20 has DSI intakes. The Mig 1.44 does not.
China's J-20 has stealthy S-ducts (or serpentine ducts). The Mig 1.44 does not.
China's J-20 has angled vertical stabilizers for stealth. The Mig 1.44 does not.
China's J-20 has an AESA radar. The Mig 1.44 does not.
China's J-20 has planform alignment. The Mig 1.44 does not.
China's J-20 has its canards directly in front of its main wings. The Mig 1.44 has canards located at a higher elevation than its wings.
China's J-20 has internal weapon bays. The Mig 1.44 does not.
In conclusion, China's J-20 has no relation to the Mig 1.44. The only thing you can claim is that they are both delta-wing fighters. However, many aircraft worldwide are delta-wing fighters (such as the Eurofighter, the Rafale, the F-14 Tomcat, etc.).
What is not beautiful about it. See it flying, the aerial display speaks for itself.What so beauty about it ? Care to explain ?
You are such a hypocrite. Why don't you criticize your daddies for Tu-144 "Concordski" or Tu-160? What about Ilyushin-86 "airbuski"?Just because your daddy got new car doesn't mean it better than anything in neighborhood. PAK FA, F35 and F22 are something to start with.
Firefox was way ahead of its time. I loved the landing scene on the polar iceWhen I see the Mig 1.44/1.42, I remember the film "Firefox", with Clint Eastwood....
The F-35 has been a failure.